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Old 08-29-2014, 07:07 AM
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Gary, the 40 is the throat diameter, we had 34mm venturiis in them, they are not progressive, and yes it was one throat per cyl. using a Clifford manifold (they have excellent single and dual 4 barrel ones for almost any in-line American 6 including Hudson Hornet). We drag raced a 292 Chevy built by Clifford for us using 3 45 DCOE Webers. The E may have something to do with the starting circuit, the DCOE has one, the 58 DCO does not, nor does the 48 IDA. I always wanted to find a pair of the either 46 or 48 IDA3P Porsche carbs for a Corvair engine, I had a set of 140 hp heads that had the intake manifolds machined off so Weber flanges could be installed.


Boy that worked for me had a dual 4 barrel intake on a Chevy 250, we put Stromberg 4A carbs from a Buick 322 on it, ran pretty good with that and a Mallory distributor.

A good friend has a Cobra intake and 6 48 IDA Webers (it only needs 4). All we need is an engine to put it and them on.
 

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Old 08-29-2014, 07:32 AM
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So, the venturii are replaceable? Interesting. But keeping 3 carbs synch'd must have been fun, although we did it all the time on bikes. My Honda 750 K1 had 4 and when I built a mercury manometer to synch them I learned they already were.

I'd like to build a six with two or three Weber progressive DC's on it. Given the length of the engine it just seems to beg to be run as a pair of 3 cylinders or a 2 cylinder triple. In fact, I'm already thinking about the engine for the '50 Chevy pickup. Had thought I'd go with a 235 to get the pressure oiling system but stay fairly mild. But my brother is suggesting I get a late model V6 with EFI a well as its tranny. But most of those are FWD. And they require bunches of wiring. A 235 seems so simple, even with multiple carbs.
 
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Old 08-29-2014, 07:45 AM
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I would lean toward the 235 as an in-line has a much nicer sound than a V6. FWIW, S10s came with a 2.8L (anemic) and later 4.3L (3/4 of a 350) RWD setup. 3 1 barrels progressive on an in-line works great, or 2 of the Holly/Weber progressive 2 barrels.
 
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:04 AM
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I agree on the sound. As I've said, one of my favorite parts of the movie Cars is when Doc backs down coming to the stop sign. That Hudson six with split manifolds and glass packs sounds sweet.

But the 4.3L engine has offset crank pins so has oddly-timed exhaust pulses - not too pretty IMO. However, the whole S10 running gear could be stuffed under the 50's body, giving a much more modern truck. Hmmmm....
 
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:09 AM
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It actually fires every 120°, the reason for the offset pins is it's a 90° block. Remember the original Buick V6, 198, 225, 231? those had an odd firing sequence of 90°-150°-90°-150°-90°-150° and "galloped" as a result. Other than Mopar's 3.9L all the newer V6s are even fire.
 
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:15 AM
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Ahh! I sit corrected. Yes, I was remembering the Buick engine, and when I remembered "staggered crank" on the Chevy I thought of the odd firing of the Buick. Glad you corrected me. Maybe the S10 idea has merit. Thanks!
 
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:22 AM
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Just be careful of what tranny fit behind that engine.
Some of those GM units can be nightmares.

4l30e is not something I would install unless my hands were tied.
 
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:28 AM
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Yes, lots of research is required. On the one hand, buying an S10 for $3000 and installing the 50's body sounds cheap. But that S10 is going to have many miles on it and may well be ready to have everything rebuilt, so now you are talking big bucks and lots of work. Perhaps a more recent truck that is totaled would be a better donor. Fortunately I have time to study the situation as the Bee comes before the 50. And the Bee may give me all I want of multiple carbs as I'm toying with using the 6 pack setup.
 
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:38 AM
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The 'Bee absolutely needs the 6 pack!

I mean, it really is the defining performance option of Mopar engines in that era.
 
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:52 AM
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6 pack for the Bee, 4.3L S10 chassis with a 4L60E trans under the 50 Chevy, sounds like a plan.
 
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I hear the 60e is much sturdier.

Of course this is all I know of the *******ization from GM/Isuzu that was my wife's Honda Passport.
That 30e had problems from the computer to gunked solenoids to bad bands and a taste for specific and obscure fluids.
it couldn't put up with the torque of that little 3.2 V-6
 
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:59 AM
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B a s t a r d i z a t i o n ???


Really?
The nanny filters are strong on this forum!
 
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Old 08-29-2014, 09:17 AM
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Yes, it sounds like a plan. Edelbrock still makes the same 6 pack intake, so I just have to round up the carbs. And the S10 combo would make the planning much easier. Thanks, guys.

As for the filters, I don't seem to be having any problems.
 
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Old 08-29-2014, 09:33 AM
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I will learn to use the term 'mongrel' but it doesn't seem to accurately reflect my disdain for the 4l30.

ETA; none of this is about WHYDTYTT, or even Fords, so I'll let this go.
 
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I'll be the first to change the subject. Here's the tailgate after I wet sanded it. All I have to do now is touch up the areas that I rubbed through and it's all ready for paint. All of the body repaired areas are now invisible after wet sanding, which surprised me. Should look pretty good when it's all done.



Here's a throwback to how crappy it used to look.
 


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