If you use the search function in this forum, you will come up with a similar debate - quite often with more technical info than you saw there...

 

I am sorry nickfordman I didn't realize that I had singled you out in my post. I also didn't recall saying I had personally been attacked in any way (until now "buddy")

I realize all of these sites are biased thats why I made my post. I am trying to get the Ford owners to tell me what specificaly makes there trucks are so much better than the competition. Any site on the internet is really good at bashing the other brand. I am simply asking for someone to help me decide which truck is worth my $40k+ so that I can make an informed decision.

Since I see that you have posted over 1200 times and like your brand so much, it should be easy for you to give some helpfull information.

P.S. BigF350 have if I have oversteped my bounds or disrespected this forum in any way please let me know

 

Just watch the language, and referring to all Ford (or any other marque) owners as "un-intelligent" and you will be fine.

 

No, not me personally, it's just an internet forum. You did accuse us, as a Ford truck community, to not having enough intelligence to help you. I believe this forum, and this whole site, is pretty fair, when considering the rest of the internet garbage out there, I think we can both agree on that.

EDIT: To your question about a truck, IMO, you'd be best to wait until the '07 lines are out. The 6.4L will be introduced, and every other company is rolling out new lines.

 

Allow me to rephrase...you won't find a Duramax or Powerstroke.

 

Nick, so that you understand me better. my first car was a mustang I then bought a 1991 mustang GT Built the bageezes out of it (it had 506hp and 720ft/lbs and was my daily driver) My dream vehicle since I got my drivers license was a crewcab 4X4 psd F350 every car my family has ever owned was a ford, and when we go camping our family usually comes with at least 6 ford superduties ranging from 97 to 06.

I love ford trucks and always have but the 6.0 PSD has been so problematic that it has shaken my faith in the powerstroke.

from everything that I have read I have come to the conclusion that to make the perfect truck I would put a cummins I-6 and an allison 6speed auto (I am done with manuals) into a ford chassis.

I am leaning very heavily towards waiting for the 07 6.4tt but it is hard to look at my brand new $35,000 toy hauler sitting on the side of my house with nothing to tow it since my wife totaled my 06 f250

 

Well, from what I have heard, the 6.0L from '05 and up has been great. Not sure if you would feel comfortable with it. Why not buy a used 7.3L SD? That solves all your problems right there.

 

im sorry gmc guy , but your truck sounds like a had one chevy a 98 z71 and I have to say that truck was the biggest piece of ****!!!! ive ever owned.
the seats in the z were like sitting on plywood and the leather quality on the seats was junk. hell, the truck wasnt even true 4 wheel drive, when the back tires started slipping only the passenger front started turning(what a pos in my book!!!)i bought the Z with 35000 miles on it with a 350, and the P.O.S. burnt a quart of oil about every 100 miles or so, and the truck was almost new! im sorry ,but ill own a ford for the rest of my life.

 

Thanks for my "Sunday morning funnies", guys!!!

 

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GMC and Chevrolet truck sales together are well behind Ford in number of trucks sold.

 

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One of the obvious reasons you see so many used '05 PSD's is that they bring the world for trade-in values. An owner could trade into a '06 for relatively little difference- or change in payment, which is what it really boils down to generally. Back when Suburbans were hot merchandise, I bought the missus 6 new Suburbans over an 8 year period. Why? Because you could put 9-12,000 miles on them and get all of your money back. Why not?

Today, that same Suburban will take a $15-$20,000 hit in a year. You don't see many folks trading them frequently with those kind of numbers.

Back to the trucks- I really don't know where you're coming from, but folks with $40-$50 large to spend on a vehicle generally don't need a lot of help or advice doing it. They've typically made their minds up which direction they want to go. I will say this- if you buy a nicely equipped SD and change your mind next year when you see the '07's (or the new Silverado), it probably won't cost much to change directions (that was my bet, anyway- and I'm in the biz). Buy a Silverado or a Dodge right now, though, and you're pretty much committed for awhile.

 

do you really think that the 6.0 will hold it's value very long after the new 6.4 TT come out? i mean the reason the 7.3 has such good resale value is because of the 6.0's bad reputation.

 

I'm actually thinking of picking up a duramax when GM has it's going out of bussiness sale.

 

I do- the 7.3's bring more money than 6.0's- but in the '03 model year only, and the money's not that big a difference. By the time you get to '04, it's not true anymore. Actually, the 6.0 doesn't have that bad a rep- there are a lot of folks out there that have had zero problems with them, and the tranny behind them is superior to the Automatic behind the 7.3.

The history of Ford bodystyle changes is that the prior style- whatever that was- will hold up well as many truck owners don't do change well. The 6.4 will have to prove itself, and we'll hope we don't see the teething problems we had with the 6.0.

I'm another one that subscribes to the "Cummins diesel reliability as urban legend" school of thought. The earlier ones were great, but the newer ones that we've gotten in trade have much of the same issues the early 6.0's did. Oddly, the D-max's have really been the reliability star of the group.