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superduty-list Digest Wed, 15 Nov 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 052

In This Issue:
Re: Superchips
Re: New Tires?
Re: New Tires?
Re: New Tires?
Re: New Tires?

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From: Kyle Porter <KGP kha.com>
Subject: Re: Superchips
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:59:47 -0600

super duty list

I am looking for a 50 HP chip for my 97 PSD 4x4... Does anyone know of a
used chip or a good deal somewhere?  What is the avg. cost people are having
to pay and Is one hcip better than the other?


thanks

Kyle
1997 F25 HD 4x4 SRW LWB extra cab PDS
27,186 miles and no probs.




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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:29:37 -0600
From: "Charles Abraham" <abrahamc agcs.com>
Subject: Re: New Tires?

Thanks Kyle for responding.

I posted my "rubbing" question on the Ford-Diesel forum, "Upgrades-Aftermarket",

and got all "no rubbing" replies to those running the 305s. I also found a post
to this
list from over a year ago by Nathan Bernard of Union Auto, and he states that
they
had just installed 305s on a new F-350, and also that the 33" height was the
largest
that the speedometer would allow (the F-350 was a 4x4 with ABS).

On speedometer recalibration, of those responding on the Ford-Diesel forum, only

one had done so and he found a marked improvement in performance afterward. (I
think doing so resets the shift points on an automatic.) Another, using GPS,
found a
two miles "slower" difference (73 MPH) with the speedometer reading 75 MPH.
I also called three Ford Service Centers, and two never did a re-cal, and the
other
had to replace the GEM in the process (he must of botched the job).

Another concern about going to 305s, is the approved rim width. Goodyear's web
site show that to be 8"-10". My Lariat rims I believe are only 7". So wouldn't
this
be detrimental to the 305s contact patch and overall life of the tires' center
threads?

Your absolutely right about a narrow tire being more effective in snow. The
thinner
tire cuts through the snow rather than pushing it as a wide tire will.

Still don't know what I'm going with, however the price for four 305/70/16 ATS
Goodyears at TireRack.com is a steal at only $504 ($126 each)!

Charlie.

Kyle Porter wrote:

> I have a 97 250 HD 4x4 xlt LWB SRW Diesel and I am running the stock 235 85
> R16.. The truck only has 25000 miles and I went to Discount tire here in TX
> nad they adv me that the 285 75 R 16 is the best size for the truck .  They
> said that the 305 is overkill and will only rub and that I would be
> disapointed with the 305 series. I am moving to MI and everyone there is
> running the BFG ko 285 or smaller...They say in the snow and the rain the
> 265 and 285 are as big you would want, unless you like to hydroplane.
>
> KYLE... let me know what you go with nad price...
>


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From: Kyle Porter <KGP kha.com>
Subject: Re: New Tires?
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:23:49 -0600

Charlie,
On my last truck I had 275 60 r 16 and the rims were aftermarket 16x8..
Everyone i have talked to adv. the 305 will fit but may rub when the wheel
is turned tight and a 16x8 or bigger wheel is recommended so you will have
less sidewall flex and less chance of breaking the bead and slicing the
sidewall.  The bigger rim will fix these two problems... Again i just wonder
if it is truly worth the price of wheels to put a tire on that is not that
much bigger.
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Abraham [mailto:abrahamc agcs.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 5:30 PM
To: superduty-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [superduty-list] Re: New Tires?


Thanks Kyle for responding.

I posted my "rubbing" question on the Ford-Diesel forum,
"Upgrades-Aftermarket",

and got all "no rubbing" replies to those running the 305s. I also found a
post
to this
list from over a year ago by Nathan Bernard of Union Auto, and he states
that
they
had just installed 305s on a new F-350, and also that the 33" height was the
largest
that the speedometer would allow (the F-350 was a 4x4 with ABS).

On speedometer recalibration, of those responding on the Ford-Diesel forum,
only

one had done so and he found a marked improvement in performance afterward.
(I
think doing so resets the shift points on an automatic.) Another, using GPS,
found a
two miles "slower" difference (73 MPH) with the speedometer reading 75 MPH.
I also called three Ford Service Centers, and two never did a re-cal, and
the
other
had to replace the GEM in the process (he must of botched the job).

Another concern about going to 305s, is the approved rim width. Goodyear's
web
site show that to be 8"-10". My Lariat rims I believe are only 7". So
wouldn't
this
be detrimental to the 305s contact patch and overall life of the tires'
center
threads?

Your absolutely right about a narrow tire being more effective in snow. The
thinner
tire cuts through the snow rather than pushing it as a wide tire will.

Still don't know what I'm going with, however the price for four 305/70/16
ATS
Goodyears at TireRack.com is a steal at only $504 ($126 each)!

Charlie.

Kyle Porter wrote:

> I have a 97 250 HD 4x4 xlt LWB SRW Diesel and I am running the stock 235
85
> R16.. The truck only has 25000 miles and I went to Discount tire here in
TX
> nad they adv me that the 285 75 R 16 is the best size for the truck .
They
> said that the 305 is overkill and will only rub and that I would be
> disapointed with the 305 series. I am moving to MI and everyone there is
> running the BFG ko 285 or smaller...They say in the snow and the rain the
> 265 and 285 are as big you would want, unless you like to hydroplane.
>
> KYLE... let me know what you go with nad price...
>

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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:00:44 -0600
From: "Charles Abraham" <abrahamc agcs.com>
Subject: Re: New Tires?

I've found my answer, just wonder if they're "street-legal".
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mattracks.com/



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From: Kyle Porter <KGP kha.com>
Subject: Re: New Tires?
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:07:05 -0600

what is the answer ?? My freind at work just told me that the late models 99
and up should all have the 16x8 on the xlt models.

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From: Charles Abraham [mailto:abrahamc agcs.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 8:01 PM
To: superduty-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [superduty-list] Re: New Tires?


I've found my answer, just wonder if they're "street-legal".
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mattracks.com/



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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:55:30 +0100
Subject: Re: new tires
From: Kirk Werner <Kirk Werner.org>

Charlie,

I have Goodyear AT/S in 305s. They do not rub, fit nice on the Lariat Rims,
and look good- they're a nice blend of height and width without being too
fat. It seems to be an odd size that not too many manufactures make.  You
might look at a 295 also. In my opinion, a 4x4 Superduty needs a taller tire
to look decent (I know, I know- looks don't matter).  I think 285's would be
a minimum. The only thing I don't like about the AT/S is that the tread
pattern is pretty tight and they pick up lots of rocks, which is not a
problem unless you live on a gravel road. Which I do. I've got 12K miles on
mine and they are wearing well. I also have one that is out of round, so
I'll be replacing them. But as far as quality and wear and looks, the
Goodyears are good.

Kirk

> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:45:59 -0600
> From: "Charles Abraham" <abrahamc agcs.com>
> Subject: New Tires?
>
> My Super Duty is a 99.5 Lariat 4x4 Diesel. And after 33K miles there's
> not enough tread on the rear tires to go through the winter on, while fronts
> look great. Should I replace the two rears with original Firestone's
> 265/75/16,
> or all four with a better brand of tires? I have the money to do all four, but
> uncertain as to which brand - and size, to go with.
>
> Heard good things about Avon (A-v-on) and Pro Comps, but no Illinois dealers.
> Both are Hi-Tech tires. Also considering Goodyear ATS.
>
> About size, I would like to go up to 305/70/16s but Goodyear says they'll rub,
> and recommends 285/75/16s instead. If I increase the height, Ford Service
> wants
> $150 to re-calibrate the speedo, that seems rather high?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie.
>


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