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superduty-list Digest Thu, 21 Sep 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 030

In This Issue:
Fw: What Not To Say To A Police Officer
Re: Fw: What Not To Say To A Police Officer
00 f250 problems
Re: 00 f250 problems

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From: "Jason Derra" <derrar internetcds.com>
Subject: Fw: What Not To Say To A Police Officer
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:47:04 -0700


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Subject: Fw: What Not To Say To A Police Officer


> >WHAT NOT TO SAY TO A POLICE OFFICER! ~~~
> > >> > >
> > >> > >   1. I can't reach my license unless you hold my beer.  (OK in
> Texas)
> > >> > >   2. Sorry, Officer, I didn't realize my radar detector wasn't
> > plugged
> > >> in.
> > >> > >   3.Aren't you the guy from the Village People?
> > >> > >   4. Hey, you must've been doin' about 125 mph to keep up with
me.
> > >Good
> > >> > > job!
> > >> > >   5. Are You Andy or Barney?
> > >> > >   6. I thought you had to be in relatively good physical
condition
> to
> > >be
> > >> a
> > >> > > police officer.
> > >> > >   7. You're not gonna check the trunk, are you?
> > >> > >   8. I pay your salary!
> > >> > >   9. Gee, Officer! That's terrific. The last officer only gave me
a
> > >> > > warning,
> > >> > > too!
> > >> > >  10. Do you know why you pulled me over? Okay, just so one of us
> > does.
> > >> > >  11. I was trying to keep up with traffic. Yes, I know there are
no
> > >> other
> > >> > > cars around.         That's how far ahead of me they are.
> > >> > >  12. When the Officer says "Gee Son....Your eyes look red, have
you
> > >been
> > >> > > drinking?" You probably shouldn't respond with,"Gee Officer your
> eyes
> > >> look
> > >> > > glazed, have
> > >> > >  you been eating doughnuts?"
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >  >  >  >>> > > > Forward this to at least 11 people and see
what
> > >> > > comes
> > >> > > >  >  >  >>> > > > on your screen, you will laugh your head
> > off!!!!!!!
> > >> > > >  >  >  >>> > > > This works. I don't know how... >>
> > >> > >
> > >
> > >Randy & Marcella Shifflett
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>


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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:01:11 +0100
Subject: super duty topper
From: Kirk Werner <Kirk Werner.org>


I've had several trucks with canopies, and even with good fits, none of the
canopies have been 100% water/moisture proof. If you live in a damp climate,
I'd think twice about doing any sort of carpet in the bed of your truck.
It seems to me that if you're going to put a canopy on the truck, and line
the bed of the truck with carpet, you might as well get an Excursion!



> From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server <listar ford-trucks.com>
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> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:15:49 -0400 (EDT)
> To: superduty-list digest users <listar ford-trucks.com>
> Subject: superduty-list Digest V2000 #29
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "F350 habs.com" <f350 habs.com>
> Subject: Re: Super Duty Topper
> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:43:16 -0400
>
> Dan Thanks for the info.
> Sounds like a  really sweet setup you've got.
>
> It hadn't occurred to me to carpet the bed, but I don't see why not once you
> have the cap on.
> How difficult would it be to remove the cap and carpet from the bed in order
> to use the bed for ?whatever?
> Or is this cap deemed a permanent use and the bed is never used for ?crap?
> and use a tralier instead.
>
> So, just to reiterate...
> Centry cap. - Is this Centry or Century???
> Steelhorse - bed liner carpet.
> Aluminum Diamond Plate Tool Box - what brand???
>
> Dan, any URL's would be handy for tracking down some models, and places to
> purchase the above items.
>
> Brian
> '91 F350


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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:22:25 -0700
Subject: Re: super duty topper/rug
From: Dave Santo <dhsanto home.com>

Have y'all thought about using a "Bedrug?" I believe it's made out of
marine-grade polypropylene material. I have one installed under a
Pace-Edwards Roll-Top Cover. No problems. AND, it stays pretty dry too.
Fortunately.


--
Dave Santo
dhsanto home.com


> I've had several trucks with canopies, and even with good fits, none of the
> canopies have been 100% water/moisture proof. If you live in a damp climate,
> I'd think twice about doing any sort of carpet in the bed of your truck.
> It seems to me that if you're going to put a canopy on the truck, and line
> the bed of the truck with carpet, you might as well get an Excursion!
>
>>
>> It hadn't occurred to me to carpet the bed, but I don't see why not once you
>> have the cap on. How difficult would it be to remove the cap and carpet from
>> the bed in order to use the bed for ?whatever? Or is this cap deemed a
>> permanent use and the bed is never used for ?crap? and use a tralier instead.
>>
>> So, just to reiterate...
>> Centry cap. - Is this Centry or Century???
>> Steelhorse - bed liner carpet.
>> Aluminum Diamond Plate Tool Box - what brand???
>>
>> Dan, any URL's would be handy for tracking down some models, and places to
>> purchase the above items.


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Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:39:27 -0400
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: What Not To Say To A Police Officer

That was humorous when it was forwarded to me the first time
6 years ago.  It lost its appeal about 20 forwarded emails ago.



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From: "Jeff AirboatFanatics.com" <Jeff airboatfanatics.com>
Subject: 00 f250 problems
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:45:37 -0500

I just bought a 2000 F-250 CC 4x4 V10 and have a few questions. I did not
get the overload springs in the back nor did I get the HD springs in the
front. Therefore my truck sits lower than most. I did not get the 265 but
rather the basic 235's because I am going to get some BFG AT KO's soon but,
what size will fit. According to Nat Tire I can get 33s but  my truck does
not sit as high as the average f250 4x4. I would assume that 285/75/16 would
work but do not know.

Also my truck seems to bounce/vibrate after an bumps in the road. My dodge
had this problem when the track bar bushings were going bad. Would the
Edelbrock shocks clean this up or am I stuck witht the bounce?

My leaf spring seem to squeek on any little bump(front mostly). My truck
only has 2000 miles so it sould not squeek (YET). Is there something I could
grease to clear it up?

I am overall not happy with the ride of this truck and coming from a 3/4 ton
HD Dodge 4x4 with a cummins you would think that it would be MUCH better but
it is not that much better. I plan on adding Firestone Airbags in the back
to get a better loaded ride and possibly a set of Edelbrock performance IAS
shock (they are the best not rancho)

Is the chip upgrade the only way to get the auto to shift harder? I have
plenty of power to pull but the shift seems sloppy and could use a little
boost. The v10 overall is great with even 12 MPG now with 2k on the engine
although I have noticed the surge previously mentioned while under loaded
conditions albeit small but noticeable.

I love the truck and will never stray from Ford again but it does have some
room for improvement.

Jeff
Jeff airboatfanati




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From: Stan Wright <swright hpcisp.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:26:28 -0500
Subject: Re: 00 f250 problems

My truck is just like your's, except a 1999.  I just put on a set of Edelbrock
shocks, and the difference is amazing.  I have the heavy service suspension, and
my stock ride was bouncy like you describe.  The new shocks got rid of the
bounciness, and it rides smoother and handles better.  I give them two thumbs
up.

I think you can get shift kits for the transmission since it's basically an
E4OD.  Confirm that before you buy anything, though.  I have a Superchip, Gibson
exhaust, K&N filter, and I modified the air intake.  I like the improved
performance.

You should check out the forums at ford diesel com for info on what tire will
fit.  That question has been discussed alot.  My next tires will either be
285/75's or 295/75's, but my truck sets level from the factory since I have the
heavy duty suspension.

"Jeff AirboatFanatics.com" wrote:

> I just bought a 2000 F-250 CC 4x4 V10 and have a few questions. I did not
> get the overload springs in the back nor did I get the HD springs in the
> front. Therefore my truck sits lower than most. I did not get the 265 but
> rather the basic 235's because I am going to get some BFG AT KO's soon but,
> what size will fit. According to Nat Tire I can get 33s but  my truck does
> not sit as high as the average f250 4x4. I would assume that 285/75/16 would
> work but do not know.
>
> Also my truck seems to bounce/vibrate after an bumps in the road. My dodge
> had this problem when the track bar bushings were going bad. Would the
> Edelbrock shocks clean this up or am I stuck witht the bounce?
>
> My leaf spring seem to squeek on any little bump(front mostly). My truck
> only has 2000 miles so it sould not squeek (YET). Is there something I could
> grease to clear it up?
>
> I am overall not happy with the ride of this truck and coming from a 3/4 ton
> HD Dodge 4x4 with a cummins you would think that it would be MUCH better but
> it is not that much better. I plan on adding Firestone Airbags in the back
> to get a better loaded ride and possibly a set of Edelbrock performance IAS
> shock (they are the best not rancho)
>
> Is the chip upgrade the only way to get the auto to shift harder? I have
> plenty of power to pull but the shift seems sloppy and could use a little
> boost. The v10 overall is great with even 12 MPG now with 2k on the engine
> although I have noticed the surge previously mentioned while under loaded
> conditions albeit small but noticeable.
>
> I love the truck and will never stray from Ford again but it does have some
> room for improvement.
>
> Jeff
> Jeff airboatfanati
>
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Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:40:28 -0700
Subject: Re: 00 f250 problems AND Shock upgrade recomendations
From: Dave Santo <dhsanto home.com>

>    00 f250 problems on the SuperDuty list:
>
> I just bought a 2000 F-250 CC 4x4 V10 and have a few questions. I did not
> get the overload springs in the back nor did I get the HD springs in the
> front. Therefore my truck sits lower than most. I did not get the 265 but
> rather the basic 235's because I am going to get some BFG AT KO's soon but,
> what size will fit. According to Nat Tire I can get 33s but  my truck does
> not sit as high as the average f250 4x4. I would assume that 285/75/16 would
> work but do not know.

I have (virtually) the same truck, except SuperCab, not CC.

Have you actually measured it and compared measurements? Or, are you just
getting an "impression" that there's a difference? I have the rear
"overload" spring and I was under the impression that that particular leaf
ONLY COMES INTO PLAY ***** IF ***** you LOAD UP THE BED or PULL A
TRAILER(travel or 5th). I also did not get the HD fronts. I ordered my '00
with the standard 235/85/16's and after I took delivery, I drove straight to
the Tire Shop and told them I wanted the largest tires that would fit on an
unmodified vehicle. They recommended, and I put on, 295/75/16's (BFG AT
KO's, just like you want). I've had no problems with this setup. Not much
highway noise. Very bearable. At about 8,000 miles, currently, I estimate I
may get 25-30,000 miles out of them. Don't really know, though.

> Also my truck seems to bounce/vibrate after an bumps in the road. My dodge
> had this problem when the track bar bushings were going bad. Would the
> Edelbrock shocks clean this up or am I stuck witht the bounce?

I stuck E-IAS's all-around and they cut out the harshness of the bumps and
hops, HOWEVER, the bouncy-ness still exists (on those horrible concrete
seamed highways) and has gotten more annoying over the past year. (In
addition to my back getting worse. DJD.) About the middle of July I had a
Rancho front-end leveling-kit installed and Dana Velvet-Ride shackles on the
rear and I really do not notice much, if any, improvement in the rear ride.
I can't tell, but, with the extra springs of the Rancho F.E.L.K, I think the
front-end is bouncier than stock. It almost has to be.

[snip]

> I am overall not happy with the ride of this truck and coming from a 3/4 ton
> HD Dodge 4x4 with a cummins you would think that it would be MUCH better but
> it is not that much better. I plan on adding Firestone Airbags in the back
> to get a better loaded ride and possibly a set of Edelbrock performance IAS
> shock (they are the best not rancho)

Funny as it may seem, JUST TODAY, I ordered 4 Rancho 9000's. I'm going to
see if there is any difference in the ride. I currently have a full set of
(4) IAS's for "normal" heights and 2 fronts for "less than 4? inches of
lift." You may wish to keep me in mind when it comes time to buy, should you
choose IAS's, as, I may have some to sell!   dhsanto home.com

> Is the chip upgrade the only way to get the auto to shift harder? I have
> plenty of power to pull but the shift seems sloppy and could use a little
> boost. The v10 overall is great with even 12 MPG now with 2k on the engine
> although I have noticed the surge previously mentioned while under loaded
> conditions albeit small but noticeable.

Go take a peek at:  http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bankspower.com/GBford.html
I bought the TransCommand and it (seemed to have) firmed up the shifts.
There's another product called OttoMind that's supposed to correct air-fuel
mixtures. It wasn't available, back in June, when I got the Gale Banks
PowerPack for my truck. Ohhhhhhh, how smooth it is! Along with a K&N FIPK
and a Granatelli MotorSports Mass AirFlow Sensor, 10-10.6mpg streets(w/heavy
right foot), 13mpg freeway(same foot, 75-80mph, hills, flat, etc.), BUT on
straight and level freeway, 65-70mph, cruise on 16.7 MPG! Minor weight in
Bed, no trailer.

******************************************************
>   Shock upgrade recommendations on the 97up list
>
> I have a 99 F150 XLT SC short bed 5.4, and I'm not happy with the
> jumpy/bumpy ride on expansion joint freeways.  The truck tends to bounce a
> lot, especially on rebound after hitting a dip, and can even lift me of my
> seat as it jumps into the air (so it feels) after coming back up from
> hitting a dip in the road.
>
> I'm contemplating new shocks.  I don't however want to go to hard riding
> shocks, so I'm thinking of either the Monroe Reflex or Edelbrock IAS that
> state they give stiff shock benefits until you hit a bump/pot hole then a
> valve opens making the shock act like a soft/comfort shock, then go back to
> firm again.  I'm also thinking of Ranch RS9000's, the adjustable shock.

I could be wrong, but, I think Monroe = Rancho or vice versa. See above
about E-IAS's from MY point of view. Others (dealers) I've spoken with tell
me I'm nuts. They say that they've NEVER had ANYONE complain about IAS's or
return under the 30-day money-back guarantee. Maybe I'm just "special."

> I'm also thinking of adding 300 to 400 pounds of bed ballast (maybe concrete
> bags) to help stabilize the ride.  The pogoing from front to back on the
> freeway drives me nuts and the wife just hates the truck for this reason.
>
> My question is this, has any of you folks fitted any of the above shocks,
> and/or used weight in the bed, and if so,  what was the ride like
> afterwards?

Again, see above. I'm hoping that the 9000's are going to be better than the
IAS's. As far as putting weight in the bed. Extra weight may improve the
ride, and, to some extent (how much???) it may reduce fuel mileage. Don't
know.
>
> I need some help in choosing the right shocks.  The Monroe's cost about half
> of what the Edelbrock's cost and sound like they do the same thing.  But
> which ones are really better.  Does anyone out there know?

Call up Rancho (1-800-GO-Rancho) and ask about Monroe shocks. Like I said
above, Monroe may = Rancho.


--
Dave Santo
dhsanto ....


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