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Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 17:56:38 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server <listar To: small-list digest users <listar Reply-to: small-list Subject: small-list Digest V2001 #2 Precedence: list ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts Small Chassis Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe small-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ small-list Digest Wed, 03 Jan 2001 Volume: 2001 Issue: 002 In This Issue: I failed my first smog!! Lug Nuts Re: 94 Ranger alignment Re: I failed my first smog!! I failed my first smog!! Re: I failed my first smog!! Club FTE Referral Program ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 18:35:07 +0000 From: Adam McLaughlin <kd6poc Subject: I failed my first smog!! Is anyone familiar with any smog work to help me get into the passing area? Here is what happens: Tim, this maybe something for you to tell me about! Here is what happens at idle. HC 1390 ppm CO2: 10.7 % Co: 5.94 % O2: 2.3 % As you can see, WAY to rich. So, I went home, pulled the codes, got a 1,1. I was a little bit stumped, so I checked the idle voltage at the green wire of the TPS when the plate is fully closed and it was where it should be, .9VDC. I went to Napa and got a set of new .44 plugs (Autolite) a new brass cap, and a new brass rotor, and a new O2 sensor. Set me back $112. Owie! I inspected the old plugs when I pulled them. Everything looked fine. I was curious to see what the MSD would do to plugs, but everything looked good, tips were a mixture of grey and orange. I checked the compression, and every cylinder hit at least 140 PSI on the first stroke, and by the third they were all at 165. Things seem in order... This truck has spent all of it's life up in Ukiah, so it has never had a smog check before in it's life. Could the cats have gone bad? The smog guy suggested the O2 sensor, and perhaps since my original cats were still on the truck that they might be due for service too. 172K+ miles on the ticker. I don't know what to think. I get 17 city MPG, and 19 HWY on 92 octane. The computer chip I got from James Duff says that nothing is adjusted in the emmissions, and the new ADS Super Injectors are CARB certified. Does anyone have any suggestions? Adam ------------------------------ From: "Ron & Madeline Trampe" <telh Subject: Lug Nuts Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 23:37:23 -0600 Just an item of interest: Today, on the way to work, I thought I hit a pot hole. But then I saw the left front wheel of my '96 Ranger going down the road in front of me. All 5 lug nuts had worked their way off of the studs. I was able to get 2 of them back on the ruined studs, and drive it to the repair shop. It will need a new hub, dust shield for the disk brake, and ?. They'll work on it Fri. The nuts must have been working loose for weeks, and the wheel must have been loose and wobbly for a while. But with all the snow and ice, and with being in 4WD most of the time, I didn't notice anything. Ron Trampe telh > Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:30:47 EST > Subject: Alignment > > > Thanks all, for replies; > I'm in the greater Seattle area , and will probably go back to Les > Schwab as they've been good in the past. > Since I posted the question I had another look at the front end and > discovered one lug nut on the passenger front wheel half way off and the > other 4 nuts only finger tight, plus 5lbs under pressure on that tire. > > <<Looks like you've got some work cut out for you in finding a > qualified alignment specialist you can trust. Post your area, > maybe some reading this list can point those nearby to you.>> > ------------------------------ From: "David Goodwin" <david_goodwin88 Subject: Re: 94 Ranger alignment Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 11:23:52 TJS wrote: "the guy told me it was in "spec" and my problem was a bad tire. He told me instead of rotating them front-rear, do it from left-right." Not at all un-common. I worked in a tire shop for many years and had to tell customers that very same thing on several occasions. Happened to me too....with Uniroyal Steelers. My Uniroyals had belt seperation in less than 400 miles. I put on a set of Dunlops and never had problem with them......You are not alone. Dave _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "David Cooley" <n5xmt Subject: Re: I failed my first smog!! Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:57:25 -0500 Several things... Bad plug wire, too lean or vacuum leak, Bad PCV valve, bad valve seals letting oil into the combustion chambers/exhaust ports, timing way too far advanced... Even without cats it wouldn't be that high on emissions... My 85 buick GN with the cat removed still passed the sniffer tests with under 220ppm HC and under 1.2% CO... How were the 2500 RPM emission readings??? > -----Original Message----- > From: small-list-bounce > [mailto:small-list-bounce > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 1:35 PM > To: Small List > Subject: [small-list] I failed my first smog!! > > > > Is anyone familiar with any smog work to help me get into the passing > area? Here is what happens: > > Tim, this maybe something for you to tell me about! > > Here is what happens at idle. > > HC 1390 ppm > CO2: 10.7 % > Co: 5.94 % > O2: 2.3 % > > As you can see, WAY to rich. > > So, I went home, pulled the codes, got a 1,1. I was a little bit > stumped, so I checked the idle voltage at the green wire of the TPS when > the plate is fully closed and it was where it should be, .9VDC. > > I went to Napa and got a set of new .44 plugs (Autolite) a new brass > cap, and a new brass rotor, and a new O2 sensor. Set me back $112. Owie! > > I inspected the old plugs when I pulled them. Everything looked fine. I > was curious to see what the MSD would do to plugs, but everything looked > good, tips were a mixture of grey and orange. > > I checked the compression, and every cylinder hit at least 140 PSI on > the first stroke, and by the third they were all at 165. Things seem in > order... > > This truck has spent all of it's life up in Ukiah, so it has never had a > smog check before in it's life. Could the cats have gone bad? The smog > guy suggested the O2 sensor, and perhaps since my original cats were > still on the truck that they might be due for service too. 172K+ miles > on the ticker. > > I don't know what to think. I get 17 city MPG, and 19 HWY on 92 octane. > > The computer chip I got from James Duff says that nothing is adjusted in > the emmissions, and the new ADS Super Injectors are CARB certified. > > Does anyone have any suggestions? > > Adam > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 07:33:26 +0000 From: Adam McLaughlin <kd6poc Subject: I failed my first smog!! I checked my plug wires with an Ohm meter. I am using MSD Super Conductor 8.5 MM wires, fed from a blaster 2 coil and a MSD 6A ignition. All of the plug wires measured at 50 ohms per foot, just like they were supposed to. There is a new PCV valve in there too. If I pulled the spout, would it work any better? We didn't even get to the 2500 RPM readings because it wouldn't idle the way he wanted to see it from the start. I reached in under the cover and pushed the throttle body lever up to open the door, and as it spins faster all of the readings drop. I figured it was because the engine is pushing a lot more air through... Adam David Cooley wrote: > Several things... > Bad plug wire, too lean or vacuum leak, Bad PCV valve, bad valve seals > letting oil into the combustion chambers/exhaust ports, timing way too far > advanced... > Even without cats it wouldn't be that high on emissions... My 85 buick GN > with the cat removed still passed the sniffer tests with under 220ppm HC and > under 1.2% CO... > How were the 2500 RPM emission readings??? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: small-list-bounce > > [mailto:small-list-bounce > > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 1:35 PM > > To: Small List > > Subject: [small-list] I failed my first smog!! > > > > > > > > Is anyone familiar with any smog work to help me get into the passing > > area? Here is what happens: > > > > Tim, this maybe something for you to tell me about! > > > > Here is what happens at idle. > > > > HC 1390 ppm > > CO2: 10.7 % > > Co: 5.94 % > > O2: 2.3 % > > > > As you can see, WAY to rich. > > > > So, I went home, pulled the codes, got a 1,1. I was a little bit > > stumped, so I checked the idle voltage at the green wire of the TPS when > > the plate is fully closed and it was where it should be, .9VDC. > > > > I went to Napa and got a set of new .44 plugs (Autolite) a new brass > > cap, and a new brass rotor, and a new O2 sensor. Set me back $112. Owie! > > > > I inspected the old plugs when I pulled them. Everything looked fine. I > > was curious to see what the MSD would do to plugs, but everything looked > > good, tips were a mixture of grey and orange. > > > > I checked the compression, and every cylinder hit at least 140 PSI on > > the first stroke, and by the third they were all at 165. Things seem in > > order... > > > > This truck has spent all of it's life up in Ukiah, so it has never had a > > smog check before in it's life. Could the cats have gone bad? The smog > > guy suggested the O2 sensor, and perhaps since my original cats were > > still on the truck that they might be due for service too. 172K+ miles > > on the ticker. > > > > I don't know what to think. I get 17 city MPG, and 19 HWY on 92 octane. > > > > The computer chip I got from James Duff says that nothing is adjusted in > > the emmissions, and the new ADS Super Injectors are CARB certified. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions? > > > > Adam > > > > ------------------------------ From: "David Cooley" <n5xmt Subject: Re: I failed my first smog!! Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:45:25 -0500 Might try going back to the stock ignition... The MSD may be the problem... Also, if the idle isn't smooth and steady, then idle readings will be funky... if the numbers did drop as the RPM's went up, then the prob could be vac leak, ignition timing etc... Pulling the spout should retard the timing a bit and could help. > -----Original Message----- > From: small-list-bounce > [mailto:small-list-bounce > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 2:33 AM > To: small-list > Subject: [small-list] I failed my first smog!! > > > > I checked my plug wires with an Ohm meter. I am using MSD Super > Conductor 8.5 MM > wires, fed from a blaster 2 coil and a MSD 6A ignition. All of > the plug wires > measured at 50 ohms per foot, just like they were supposed to. > > There is a new PCV valve in there too. If I pulled the spout, > would it work any > better? > > We didn't even get to the 2500 RPM readings because it wouldn't > idle the way he > wanted to see it from the start. I reached in under the cover and > pushed the > throttle body lever up to open the door, and as it spins faster all of the > readings drop. I figured it was because the engine is pushing a > lot more air > through... > > Adam > > David Cooley wrote: > > > Several things... > > Bad plug wire, too lean or vacuum leak, Bad PCV valve, bad valve seals > > letting oil into the combustion chambers/exhaust ports, timing > way too far > > advanced... > > Even without cats it wouldn't be that high on emissions... My > 85 buick GN > > with the cat removed still passed the sniffer tests with under > 220ppm HC and > > under 1.2% CO... > > How were the 2500 RPM emission readings??? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: small-list-bounce > > > [mailto:small-list-bounce > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 1:35 PM > > > To: Small List > > > Subject: [small-list] I failed my first smog!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Is anyone familiar with any smog work to help me get into the passing > > > area? Here is what happens: > > > > > > Tim, this maybe something for you to tell me about! > > > > > > Here is what happens at idle. > > > > > > HC 1390 ppm > > > CO2: 10.7 % > > > Co: 5.94 % > > > O2: 2.3 % > > > > > > As you can see, WAY to rich. > > > > > > So, I went home, pulled the codes, got a 1,1. I was a little bit > > > stumped, so I checked the idle voltage at the green wire of > the TPS when > > > the plate is fully closed and it was where it should be, .9VDC. > > > > > > I went to Napa and got a set of new .44 plugs (Autolite) a new brass > > > cap, and a new brass rotor, and a new O2 sensor. Set me back > $112. Owie! > > > > > > I inspected the old plugs when I pulled them. Everything > looked fine. I > > > was curious to see what the MSD would do to plugs, but > everything looked > > > good, tips were a mixture of grey and orange. > > > > > > I checked the compression, and every cylinder hit at least 140 PSI on > > > the first stroke, and by the third they were all at 165. > Things seem in > > > order... > > > > > > This truck has spent all of it's life up in Ukiah, so it has > never had a > > > smog check before in it's life. Could the cats have gone bad? The smog > > > guy suggested the O2 sensor, and perhaps since my original cats were > > > still on the truck that they might be due for service too. 172K+ miles > > > on the ticker. > > > > > > I don't know what to think. I get 17 city MPG, and 19 HWY on > 92 octane. > > > > > > The computer chip I got from James Duff says that nothing is > adjusted in > > > the emmissions, and the new ADS Super Injectors are CARB certified. > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions? > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 16:50:13 -0500 From: Ken Payne <kpayne Subject: Club FTE Referral Program Club FTE is off to a fantastic start. Club Memberships will be setup this weekend and membership cards mailed out on Monday along with complete information on setting up and using your membership accounts. Those with t-shirts in their membership orders have already had the t-shirts shipped. Since the club is off to a good start, we've decided to give an added benefit for club members! For each person a club member refers to Club FTE that signs up you'll receive a $5 credit in the FTE store! The FTE store is in the process of adding a ton of new items for new and older trucks next week so this will be of great benefit to active recruiters. There is a $100 limit to credits. This does not mean you can't get more than $100 in credits. It simply means you have to use your $100 of credit before you can earn more. The sign-up form has a place for referring members. The club pages can be found at: <a href="http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.clubfte.com">www.clubfte.com</a> Ken Payne Ford Truck Enthusiasts Admin .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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