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small-list Digest Tue, 19 Dec 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 213

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Re: Explorer - noise/ floor movement when turning the Whe
Re: Explorer - noise/ floor movement when turning the Whe
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From: "Mike Fisher" <mdfisher gte.net>
Subject: Re: Explorer - noise/ floor movement when turning the Whe
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 14:51:16 -0600


Hi Ed,

I just had a problem that sounds like the very same thing. My '97 AWD
Mountaineer started making noises shortly after I had an alignment done at a
L-M dealer. I took it to a Ford dealer, which is much closer to my house,
and they found a couple of things they thought might be causing the problem.
They were:

"Found left side upper control arm mounting bolts and cams a bit loose, but
no evidence of movement. Retorqued body mounts. Found witness marks of
movement on the transmission mounting crossmember mounting to the frame.
Retorqued bolts. Test drove and could not duplicate popping"

This fixed whatever the problem was, so I'm happy.

Mike Fisher
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward C. Miller" <millered pb.com>
To: <small-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 2:32 PM
Subject: [small-list] Explorer - noise/ floor movement when turning the
Wheel


>
>
>
> I've got a 98 4X4 explorer that makes a popping sound when I turn the
wheel.   I
> can feel the floor under my feet move when it happens.   It is very
repeatable
> and seems to be getting worse.  Once in a while I even hear a metalic
sound like
> there is loose metal,   I don't feel it on the passenger side.     I've
looked
> underneath while someone is turning the wheel and nothing is obvious.
>
>
> Any suggestions - I know I have to have it looked at but I'd like to know
what
> it is before I go in.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Ed
>
>
>


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From: Bolte Brent <Brent.Bolte kone.com>
Subject: Re: Explorer - noise/ floor movement when turning the Whe
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:00:50 -0500


Does it do this while the Explorer is sitting still or is it
only while you are turning the wheel and driving?  My thought
was that if you had a V6 Explorer with the Control Trac transfer
case (which runs in 4X4 AUTO normally) you may have had a
driveline speed sensor go bad which is keeping the clutch paks
in the transfer case fully engaged all of the time.  This of
course would cause the front/rear axles to be "tied" together
(same as if the transfer case was in 4X4 HIGH) which would cause
binding while turning corners.  I've noticed on my 97 that if I
have it locked in 4X4 HIGH and turn a corner to sharp on a
surface that is too dry that the clutch paks in the transfer
case will 'slip' and create a loud bang when it happens which
can be felt in the floor since the transfer case sits about
right under the console.  I guess the other thing could be that
you accidentally put the Explorer in 4X4 HIGH and have been
driving it that way in dry road conditions, but the 4X4 lights
on the dash should have indicated that to you.

Later, Brent Bolte

> On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 Edward C. Miller wrote:

> I've got a 98 4X4 explorer that makes a popping sound when
> I turn the wheel.   I can feel the floor under my feet move
> when it happens.   It is very repeatable and seems to be
> getting worse.  Once in a while I even hear a metalic sound
> like there is loose metal,   I don't feel it on the passenger
> side.  I've looked underneath while someone is turning the
> wheel an
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:08:46 +0000
From: Adam McLaughlin <kd6poc jps.net>
Subject: Re: Explorer - noise/ floor movement when turning the Whe


Hmmm.... Classic radius arm bushings going out?

Adam


"Edward C. Miller" wrote:

> I've got a 98 4X4 explorer that makes a popping sound when I turn the wheel.   I
> can feel the floor under my feet move when it happens.   It is very repeatable
> and seems to be getting worse.  Once in a while I even hear a metalic sound like
> there is loose metal,   I don't feel it on the passenger side.     I've looked
> underneath while someone is turning the wheel and nothing is obvious.
>
> Any suggestions - I know I have to have it looked at but I'd like to know what
> it is before I go in.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Ed


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From: "Keith Christensen" <radiopro kendra.com>
Subject: Re: Explorer - noise/ floor movement when turning the Whe
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:29:57 -0800

> From: "Edward C. Miller" <millered pb.com>
> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 15:32:16 -0500
> Subject: Explorer - noise/ floor movement when turning the Wheel

> I've got a 98 4X4 explorer that makes a popping sound when I turn
the wheel.   I
> can feel the floor under my feet move when it happens.   It is
very repeatable
> and seems to be getting worse.  Once in a while I even hear a
metalic sound like
> there is loose metal,   I don't feel it on the passenger side.
I've looked
> underneath while someone is turning the wheel and nothing is
obvious.
>
>
> Any suggestions - I know I have to have it looked at but I'd like
to know what
> it is before I go in.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Ed

Lots of "possibles" here.  (Ed - Please reply via small-list-not the
CCed email; I CCed you to get your attention as this is "not
good"!!)

I'm not up on the variations on the late Expy's, but IIRC there's
'oldetyme' 4WD (w/ either manual or auto hubs);  selectable
4WD/AWD..  fulltime AWD with locking options.. and more. I've driven
late Expy's as rentals and have seen mostly selectable 4WD/AWD.

Something's binding or "broke" ..

It could be cheap/simple;  bad CV joint or U joint; broken shock or
shock mount (even wheel bearings...)

Next worse :
Bad front differential, bad transfer case, broken frame/torque box.

Don't let this one slide--













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