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small-list Digest Mon, 20 Nov 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 197

In This Issue:
Re: Master Cylinder Interchangeability
Re: Master Cylinder Interchangeability
valve cover gaskets
Re: valve cover gaskets
Guage Swap
Re: valve cover gaskets
Re: Guage Swap
Re: Guage Swap
Re: Guage Swap
Adam's brakes

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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:58:12 -0800
From: john yee <johny netapp.com>
Subject: Re: Master Cylinder Interchangeability

Forgive me father for my sins....

Wrong brand, but interesting info.
Check it out...
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.classictruckshop.com/t3a.htm

> I suppose it's time for a web search on master brake cylinder operations :-).
> Most of the time we all spend making it go faster, not stopping ....




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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 05:02:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill Ciocco <bciocco yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Master Cylinder Interchangeability

The brakes respnd differently, though. With the steel lines, the slightest tap of the brake pedal
would slow you down, while the rubber super lift lines you have about three inches of pedal travel
before they start to do something. Then the pedal is very firm and the truck slows down smoothely.

It sounds like some air is still in the lines. Try bleeding the brakes and verify that the rears
are adjusted before looking for other parts to replace. Line construction should not have anything
to do with pedal travel, unless the lines are expanding when you press on the brakes, which would
be a problem with the lines.

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From: johnhfleming juno.com
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 06:35:48 -0800
Subject: valve cover gaskets

What are the best type/brand of valve cover gaskets for the 2.9. I've
heard that they can be a problem.

John

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From: "Stephen Bozzone" <editor rockzone.com>
Subject: Re: valve cover gaskets
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:06:38 -0500

the blue fel-pro's... use no sealant.

Steve
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> What are the best type/brand of valve cover gaskets for the 2.9. I've
> heard that they can be a problem.
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 20:26:33 -0800
From: kevin daxon <kdaxon nocccd.cc.ca.us>
Subject: Guage Swap

Hey guys,

First of all, thanks to all who responded to my post last week about
putting a camper on my girlfriends '99 Ranger 4x2 four cylinder, I think
it should go without saying that we won't be performing that upgrade!

I've noticed that some of the later Rangers (and Explorers) seem to come
equipped with two types of guage packages (or pods), one only includes
four basic gauges (fuel, water temp, oil pressure(?) & volts) while
others (which I've noticed mostly in top-of-the-line Rangers and
Explorers) have the above gauges, but with a tach next to the
speedometer.  What I was wondering is how hard would it be to swap one
of these gauge pods which have a tach included into our '99 Ranger which
currently uses a gauge pod with no tach?  I'm thinking I'll need to
locate one from a wrecking yard and I'll need to find a way to make the
new pods mileage match our trucks mileage, that and running a lead for
the tach this seems to me to be a pretty straight-forward deal (I'm
guessing that all the leads for the gauges and the idiot lights would be
the same from one pod to the next).  I know this is a fairly common and
easy upgrade on some early import trucks.  Anyone have any comments
about the feasablitly of doing such an upgrade?  Any contact info for
some Ford wrecking yards where I might be able to find these parts would
be good to, the only all Ford yard in my area seems to have, well shall
we say "inflated" prices.

Thanks in advance :)

           --Kevin    kdaxon nocccd.cc.ca.us
           Orange County, So.Cal.
           '99 Ranger extra cab 4x2 Rancho's, K&N


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From: "Chris Oostveen" <coost i2k.com>
Subject: Re: valve cover gaskets
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:28:41 -0500

I tend to shy away from the use of gaskets on valve covers. I like to use
Permatex Copper, about a 1/4" bead works well. I lay my bead on the valve
cover, let it set for a couple minutes and set the valve cover on the head,
start a few of the bolts and leave it for about a half an hour, come back
and snug the bolts lightly using Loctite. As long as both surfaces are
cleaned well (I use laq. thinner) there should be no problems with leaks. I
also like to let it set overnight before running it again, so the sealer can
set fully.

Chris

'80 Pinto 351w
'88 Low Ranger (302 in a month or so)


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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:34:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Chuck Badger <chuckbadger yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Guage Swap

My neighbor and I just did this with a 91 Ranger.
Pulled the gauge package from a Ranger in a junk yard
that had a tach, pulled his out, put the new one in,
and the tach worked just fine.  Now he has the four
standard guages plus the tach.  Turns out the wiring
for the tach is already in there, gets its signal from
the computer.  Yours is probably the same.  Seems the
factory likes to use the same wiring harness
throughout.  Next step is putting in power steering in
his truck.  Got all the parts, the wiring connector
for the power steering is already in his truck, and we
now have all the brackets, pump, gearbox, etc. ready
to go.  Thought it would be done Saturday but
discovered the splines on the steering shaft were 24
for the manual steering, 30 for power steering.  He is
getting the steering shaft today.

--- kevin daxon <kdaxon nocccd.cc.ca.us> wrote:
> Hey guys,
> I've noticed that some of the later Rangers (and
> Explorers) seem to come
> equipped with two types of guage packages (or pods),
> one only includes
> four basic gauges (fuel, water temp, oil pressure(?)
> & volts) while
> others (which I've noticed mostly in top-of-the-line
> Rangers and
> Explorers) have the above gauges, but with a tach
> next to the
> speedometer.  What I was wondering is how hard would
> it be to swap one
> of these gauge pods which have a tach included into
> our '99 Ranger which
> currently uses a gauge pod with no tach?  I'm
> thinking I'll need to
> locate one from a wrecking yard and I'll need to
> find a way to make the
> new pods mileage match our trucks mileage, that and
> running a lead for
> the tach this seems to me to be a pretty
> straight-forward deal (I'm
> guessing that all the leads for the gauges and the
> idiot lights would be
> the same from one pod to the next).  I know this is
> a fairly common and
> easy upgrade on some early import trucks.  Anyone
> have any comments
> about the feasablitly of doing such an upgrade?  Any
> contact info for
> some Ford wrecking yards where I might be able to
> find these parts would
> be good to, the only all Ford yard in my area seems
> to have, well shall
> we say "inflated" prices.
>
> Thanks in advance :)
>
>             --Kevin    kdaxon nocccd.cc.ca.us
>             Orange County, So.Cal.
>             '99 Ranger extra cab 4x2 Rancho's, K&N
>
>


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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:59:10 -0500
From: Jean Marc Chartier <jmc.chartier sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Guage Swap



kevin daxon wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> First of all, thanks to all who responded to my post last week about
> putting a camper on my girlfriends '99 Ranger 4x2 four cylinder, I think
> it should go without saying that we won't be performing that upgrade!
>
> I've noticed that some of the later Rangers (and Explorers) seem to come
> equipped with two types of guage packages (or pods), one only includes
> four basic gauges (fuel, water temp, oil pressure(?) & volts) while
> others (which I've noticed mostly in top-of-the-line Rangers and
> Explorers) have the above gauges, but with a tach next to the
> speedometer.  What I was wondering is how hard would it be to swap one
> of these gauge pods which have a tach included into our '99 Ranger which
> currently uses a gauge pod with no tach?  I'm thinking I'll need to
> locate one from a wrecking yard and I'll need to find a way to make the
> new pods mileage match our trucks mileage, that and running a lead for
> the tach this seems to me to be a pretty straight-forward deal (I'm
> guessing that all the leads for the gauges and the idiot lights would be
> the same from one pod to the next).  I know this is a fairly common and
> easy upgrade on some early import trucks.  Anyone have any comments
> about the feasablitly of doing such an upgrade?  Any contact info for
> some Ford wrecking yards where I might be able to find these parts would
> be good to, the only all Ford yard in my area seems to have, well shall
> we say "inflated" prices.
>
> Thanks in advance :)
>
>             --Kevin    kdaxon nocccd.cc.ca.us
>             Orange County, So.Cal.
>             '99 Ranger extra cab 4x2 Rancho's, K&N
>

Kevin,

     Check with your Dealer.  I can not confirm the Rangers but the 97+
F-150s are in the same boat.  All you need do is plug in the new cluster and
have the Dealer verify/reset the mileage and presto.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier

PS  One Dealer here in town will only swap clusters after he reset the
mileage on the new one to your registered mileage.


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From: "Midnight" <midnite sgi.net>
Subject: Re: Guage Swap
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:17:57 -0500

Don't know what to tell you.  I know I had a choice when I ordered mine, and
it was a no brainer to get the tach.  About swapping one for the other
though, you might want to check and see what that will do to the warranty on
your truck in regards to the electrical components.

96 Custom Ranger



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Date: 23 Nov 00 01:41:20 EST
From: Tim Turner <ManicMechanicNC netscape.net>
Subject: Adam's brakes


 Hopefully short; might be some errors, it's late.  :-)  I agree there's
probably trapped air somewhere causing the 'squish' (the old brake lines?)
Disc brakes require more fluid movement ( 2" piston Vs. 3/4" cylinder etc.)
Getting brakes bled out can be a real snot sometimes; I don't care to think
about how many master cylinders have been needlessly sold/bought over the
years for trapped air.  :-)

Tim

2 late.. C-yall L8r and have a good Thanksgiving without "pepto-bismol" :-)

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