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small-list Digest Mon, 09 Oct 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 168

In This Issue:
Re: Chop top bronco gets broken into
Re: [Re: Firestone Tires]
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Re: [Chop top bronco gets broken into]
Probably asked before :  What about a 3.8 SuperCoupe swap
Re: Probably asked before :  What about a 3.8 SuperCoupe
Re: [Re: Firestone Tires]
Re: Firestone
Re: Firestone Tires
Firestone Tires
Re: [perf-list] Probably asked before :  What about a 3.8
Re: Firestone Tires
ABS Light 98 Explorer

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From: "Brian Andrews" <RICHat22 hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Chop top bronco gets broken into
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:28:21 -0500

i would like to see more pics too adam.  i have had my B II for over 6 years
now, 3 paint jobs, 2 engine, 2 rear ends, etc. etc.  and chop top was one of
the first things i thought about.  My father had a 78 or 79 full size
bronco(first big body) and he had the removable top.  I was just always too
scared because of the dangerous stunts i pulled.  Wanted roll cage and such.
Plus i saw no way to re-use the factory roof and glass or anything remotely
inexpensive in that manner.

Lets see some pics of the work they did.  Rolling, creasing, stuff like
that.

Great looking truck though.  Even I had to drool a little myself and my is a
head-turner as well :))

Brian

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Date:  9 Oct 00 22:45:54 EDT
From: Tim Turner <ManicMechanicNC netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Re: Firestone Tires]

> "Michael D. Sheridan" <marble psnw.com> wrote:

First remember I'm no Firestone fan either; no flaming intended in the
following.

> I have a set of 225 Firestones that came on my then new 1999
> Mazda B2500. Hate these tires! They are full of bumps and the
> sidewalls have strange lines in them.

'Supposedly' the lines/humps in the sidewalls are a normal thing for radial
tires, but I don't like seeing them either.  I've seen plenty of tires that
had them with no ill effects over the long haul though.

> At 16,900 miles they are
> more than 1/2 worn out.

My driving style is a bit, ummmm.. aggressive; I'd faint if I got 17,000 out
of a tire!

> I'll never have a Firestone tire again,
> even free.

I'd take 'em free; makes it easier to save for something you like!  ;-)

> Mazda says they are not in the recall and for me to drop
> dead.

I'd imagine so.  (Although I'm sure their exact wording varied! <G>)  You
*MIGHT* get better results from a Firestone dealer if you ask for Bridgestone
replacements.  (Surprisingly better IMHO).

> I'll never have a Mazda again either!

Just because they won't replace tires that are 'supposed' to be safe?  Also if
you look closely in all the warranty papers the tires should be handled by the
tire manufacturer/dealer.  Most dealerships do NOT handle tires.  A friend of
mine that has worked at a few dealerships says that tire warranty concerns
were handled by taking the wheels off and running them over to the tire dealer
involved.  By the same logic if McDonalds had some bad 1/4 Pounders and a
Burger King Cheesebuger gave you an upset tum-tum you wouldn't patronize
either.

> Just wait until people with the 225 size start dying, then
> something will be done after the funerals.

*ALL* tires fail in some (small) percentage; often due to operating outside
the designed parameters. (weight/load/inflation/etc.)  The Explorer has a
higher incidence regardless of tire and especially so with the tires involved
in the recall.

> I won't drive my Mazda over 45 MPH

Go for it.. compare the weight per tire and the inflation pressure between the
Explorer and your Ranger (err.. Mazda clone) and remember that the hyped
failures were mostly prolonged high-speed driving (70+) with loaded
(overloaded?) Expy's.

> and at 20,000 I'm going
> to put a real set of tires on

Like many consumers; replace the OEM design with something that suits them
rather than the 'compromise' tire the OE decided on.  Nothing wrong with that!
:-)  Of course some people insist on the OE tire (notably Caddy owners).

> and send the Firestones to
> Firestone as a Chrismas gift.

It's not worth the shipping cost unless you're REALLY cheesed about it.  If
you're determined to do so just toss 'em in the local BFS dealers parking lot
with a card.  Of course if you've gotten mail from Firestone with a "postage
paid envelope" you could just tape the envelope to the tires...  <BG>

Tim

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Date:  9 Oct 00 23:25:18 EDT
From: Tim Turner <ManicMechanicNC netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Chop top bronco gets broken into]

Adam McLaughlin <kd6poc jps.net> wrote:

> Sunday was beautiful here yesterday, so I grabbed a friend and headed out
> to sebastopol for some home made ice cream. After that, we ran to the
> mall because she wanted shoes and I, dress shirts.

"She"  Hmmm.. just a friend.. shoes?  OK we believe you.  ;-)

> a sprint PCS phone and my Alpine CD player
> faceplate.

That sucks!  I remember when my DCS phone got gone after the hurricane and of
course the radio is no good without the face.  I asked 'Radio Shack' about
faceplates once and *IF* you can prove owning one (reciept etc.) you can
probably get a new face rather than having to buy a new unit.

> They did leave the CD player in the dash, however. What the heck?? Why
> steal only the face plate?

Might have the same unit without a face in the 'stash bin'.

> They did get the phone, though.

That bites.  Lose all the numbers you've stored; reprogram the ones you have
into the new one, etc.  :-(

> They left a brand new TFI module, and two EEC relays that I carry for
> spares.

No market for those unless they have a Ford!

> After talking with police, I went home, called the sprint company and
> told them what happened. They told me the phone had been used to call my
> residence, (Quickdial no. 1 on the phone) and to make some calls to
> mexico. When the thieves called my house, they left messages in spanish!!
> No kidding.

Get 'em translated?  I'm sure not just Kim & I would be interested to know
what they said!  (Flash-back to the Seinfeld episode where he calls his car
phone and talks to the car theif.)

> WHat the heck man, I had the bronco chopped for one week and this
> happened.

Look into the lock-boxes and such that Jeep owners have.  :-(  As much as I
like the look I'd want to make the 'removed' top into a replaceable hard-top
via latches/bolts along with a soft top.

> Peculiarly enough, they didn't even open up my tool box or even touch the
> work gloves or shop rags. I should have hidden my faceplate in the
> gloves, or better yet the tools. Huh....

That's surprising; tools are easily pawned; must of been after the electronics
only.

> When I got home I found out that my insurance premiums are going up.
> What's the bill now? $238.40 per month for full coverage, less $500
> deductable. (USAA)

YIKE!!  Try searching around some, the local 'Farm Bureau' here in NC has
excellent group rates for a $20/Yr membership.

Kim wants to know if you collect $2 bills or Susan B Anthony Dollars; for the
short time she did she got robbed 5 times and feels they're bad luck after
that!

Your luck's got to turn for the better soon...  :-)  :-)

Tim



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From: "Keith Christensen" <radiopro kendra.com>
Subject: Probably asked before :  What about a 3.8 SuperCoupe swap
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:51:37 -0700

"Looking for the road less-traveled" sometimes leads to answers....

As always, another 2.9L owner looking for more power.

I haven't done a lot of research into this, but it looks like this
could be a good alternative to the 'usual' 302 swap.  I've got
access to at least 3 of these motors as well as the T-Bird's
electronics as donors.

It appears that this engine 'should' fit without major hassles, but
I haven't done a lot of measuring or verifying  yet.







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From: "Brian Andrews" <RICHat22 hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Probably asked before :  What about a 3.8 SuperCoupe
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:14:24 -0500

i dont know about the tranny and such but i am curious if the 3.8 would have
the torque to snatch the BII around like a 302 would.  Would the 3.8 be
enough to justify the swap?   I would be under the impression that it would
not take off the line very well.  Coupld be wrong.  Could be too impressed
with the 302 in mine :)  It would only seem troublesome simply because it is
not done much.

Would love to know how it goes though.  I have no acess to a 3.8 to look and
give you ideas.  Check out mine

Brian

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From: "Hans Luckoff" <hluckoff azteca.net>
Subject: Re: [Re: Firestone Tires]
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:44:21 -0700

I have Firestone 225-15 HT's on my 99 Ranger and I can't complain about
them, they seem like good tires but I keep them at 30psi (like it says on
the door jam) and I don't drive like a dork. They work for me. Hans
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Turner" <ManicMechanicNC netscape.net>
To: <small-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:45 PM
Subject: [small-list] Re: [Re: Firestone Tires]



> > > I have a set of 225 Firestones that came on my then new 1999
> > Mazda B2500. Hate these tires! They are full of bumps and the
> > sidewalls have strange lines in them.




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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:12:26 -0400
From: Donald Canavan <dcanavan eng.utoledo.edu>
Subject: Re: Firestone

The firestones that came on my 98 ranger have 50000 miles on them and
are still in fairly decent shape. I am not seeing what everyone is
talking about.


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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 07:06:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jim Springer <jim_springer yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Firestone Tires

From: "Michael D. Sheridan" <marble psnw.com>
Subject: Re: Firestone Tires

Jason Holmes wrote:
>
> nope...still riding 21200 miles.
>
> >From: "Flynn Einhorn" <feinhorn hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> >To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> >Subject: [small-list] Firestone Tires
> >Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 23:10:15 EDT
> >
> >Has anyone had trouble with their firestone tires.
I had a pair of
> >firestones that were not under the recall and I had
to change them
after
> >16,000 miles.  I am very very unhappy with their
quality!  Anyone
have a
> >similar story?  I have decided to boycott the
companies products.

-I have a set of 225 Firestones that came on my then
-new 1999
-Mazda B2500. Hate these tires! They are full of
-bumps and the
-sidewalls have strange lines in them. At 16,900 miles
-they are
-more than 1/2 worn out. I'll never have a Firestone
-tire again,
-even free. Mazda says they are not in the recall and
-for me to drop
-dead. I'll never have a Mazda again either!

-Just wait until people with the 225 size start dying,

-then
-something will be done after the funerals.

-I won't drive my Mazda over 45 MPH and at 20,000 I'm
-going
-to put a real set of tires on and send the Firestones

-to
-Firestone as a Chrismas gift.

I have a B4000 with 265x15 Firestone Wilderness AT's
and they have been very good tires.  Currently have
36,500 miles and more than 50% of the tread, and I
live in south Florida.  They aren't the quietest but
they have proven to be a good on/off road compromise.
For everyone who thinks Michelins are great one of the
Michelin X rated brand new tires on my wifes car had a
catostrophic blow out at less than 1,000 miles and
they have had to be rebalanced every 5,000 miles.  I
am not very impressed with Michelins lately.

Jim Springer <jim_springer yahoo.com>


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From: "Ron & Madeline Trampe" <telh frontiernet.net>
Subject: Firestone Tires
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:48:21 -0500


> From: "Flynn Einhorn" <feinhorn hotmail.com>
> Subject: Firestone Tires
> Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 23:10:15 EDT
>
> Has anyone had trouble with their firestone tires.  I had a pair of
> firestones that were not under the recall and I had to change them after
> 16,000 miles.  I am very very unhappy with their quality!  Anyone have a
> similar story?  I have decided to boycott the companies products.
> _________________________________________________________________________
> I have 109,000 miles on my '96 Ranger 4X4 and it still has the original
Firestone Wilderness AT tires on it. They are not under the recall because
they are P215's instead of P235's. They will last another 20K-30K by the
looks of them. I rotate them regularly (all five). So each tire has 87,000
miles on it. A lot of that mileage has been highway, high speed. But they
are used regularly on gravel (like the road on which I live). Also use them
in 4 wheel drive hauling wood from the woods.
I love Firestone tires. I have never had a set of tires last anywhere near
this long. I think though that the vehicle that the tires are on has a lot
to do with it.
Ron Trampe
telh frontiernet.net



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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:12:16 -0700
From: john yee <johny netapp.com>
Subject: Re: [perf-list] Probably asked before :  What about a 3.8

Here's a really excellent site for ranger/bronco modifications.
engines, axles, etc...

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.therangerstation.com/
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://therangerstation.homestead.com/3_8_Conversion.html

Keith Christensen wrote:

> "Looking for the road less-traveled" sometimes leads to answers....
>
> As always, another 2.9L owner looking for more power.
>
> I haven't done a lot of research into this, but it looks like this
> could be a good alternative to the 'usual' 302 swap.  I've got
> access to at least 3 of these motors as well as the T-Bird's
> electronics as donors.
>
> It appears that this engine 'should' fit without major hassles, but
> I haven't done a lot of measuring or verifying  yet.


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From: "Mike Haight" <mhaight1 home.com>
Subject: Re: Firestone Tires
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:49:32 -0400

I had Firestone Radial ATX P215/75/15 on my 92 Ranger 4x4 SC and had
no problems whatsoever with them and only replaced them last winter
after getting 72,000 miles out of them.....then I took it into the
local Ford dealer, since they also sell tires and they convinced me to
UPGRADE to P235/75/15....well, you guessed it, these are the recalled
tires and you know  I never noticed it in the first 30 days but
shortly after that I started noticing a shimmer in the front end that
I never had before so I took it back to have them double check the
wheel balance and alignment and all was OK there...it was the new
tires that actually caused the shimmer but no body would believe me
until the recall came out on them.  I'm still waiting for Ford to call
me to replace them.  I started out 104 on the list for replacement and
now I'm down to 35 on the list..........figure that in about two more
weeks I should have my new replacements.........told them I prefer
Michelins or BF Goodrich or anything else for the truck except another
set of those Firestones.......unless they can guarantee me a set of
the 215's like I had before not a problem and over 70K
miles...........oh well, such is life!

 Take Care and
   Have a Good Day.
     CUL, Mike

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From: "Jim Springer" <jim_springer yahoo.com>
To: <small-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:06 AM
Subject: [small-list] Re: Firestone Tires


> From: "Michael D. Sheridan" <marble psnw.com>
> Subject: Re: Firestone Tires
>
> Jason Holmes wrote:
> >
> > nope...still riding 21200 miles.
> >
> > >From: "Flynn Einhorn" <feinhorn hotmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> > >To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> > >Subject: [small-list] Firestone Tires
> > >Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 23:10:15 EDT
> > >
> > >Has anyone had trouble with their firestone tires.
> I had a pair of
> > >firestones that were not under the recall and I had
> to change them
> after
> > >16,000 miles.  I am very very unhappy with their
> quality!  Anyone
> have a
> > >similar story?  I have decided to boycott the
> companies products.
>
> -I have a set of 225 Firestones that came on my then
> -new 1999
> -Mazda B2500. Hate these tires! They are full of
> -bumps and the
> -sidewalls have strange lines in them. At 16,900 miles
> -they are
> -more than 1/2 worn out. I'll never have a Firestone
> -tire again,
> -even free. Mazda says they are not in the recall and
> -for me to drop
> -dead. I'll never have a Mazda again either!
>
> -Just wait until people with the 225 size start dying,
>
> -then
> -something will be done after the funerals.
>
> -I won't drive my Mazda over 45 MPH and at 20,000 I'm
> -going
> -to put a real set of tires on and send the Firestones
>
> -to
> -Firestone as a Chrismas gift.
>
> I have a B4000 with 265x15 Firestone Wilderness AT's
> and they have been very good tires.  Currently have
> 36,500 miles and more than 50% of the tread, and I
> live in south Florida.  They aren't the quietest but
> they have proven to be a good on/off road compromise.
> For everyone who thinks Michelins are great one of the
> Michelin X rated brand new tires on my wifes car had a
> catostrophic blow out at less than 1,000 miles and
> they have had to be rebalanced every 5,000 miles.  I
> am not very impressed with Michelins lately.
>
> Jim Springer <jim_springer yahoo.com>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:23:55 -0700
From: Dan Wentz <dwentz earthlink.net>
Subject: ABS Light 98 Explorer

This has happened 2 times to me and it happened to my girlfriend this
morning.  Something on the dash catches your attention and you look down
just in time to see the ABS light go out.  Is this likely to be cause for
concern?  I'm inclined not to worry.

By the way, are there inexpensive OBD scanners out there?  I had a $15 one ....


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