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small-list Digest Sun, 01 Oct 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 161

In This Issue:
Synthetic Oil
Re: Synthetic Oil
Re: [Synthetic Oil]

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Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 14:08:31 -0700
From: Dan Wentz <dwentz earthlink.net>
Subject: Synthetic Oil

I used to think that synthetic oil was just an expensive gimmick, but
recently I've been persuaded into believing that it might actually be
beneficial after all.  Does anybody have any experience with it, good or
bad?  I'm particularly interested in how long you can go between
changes.  This is where I really wonder about it.  I guess it doesn't break
down so you can use it longer, but it keeps junk suspended that you want to
get rid of when you change the oil.

~Dan

1950 F1 351C--The reluctant daily driver thanks to the MTA strike.
1998 Explorer--With tires made in NC.  Not recalled--yet...




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From: "Stephen Bozzone" <editor rockzone.com>
Subject: Re: Synthetic Oil
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 18:00:20 -0400

From what I understand, it still needs to be changed just as often.
Synthetic oil is still oil, so sticking to the 3,000 (or whatever your
standard is) would be a good idea.

Steve
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From: "Dan Wentz" <dwentz earthlink.net>
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Subject: [small-list] Synthetic Oil


> I used to think that synthetic oil was just an expensive gimmick, but
> recently I've been persuaded into believing that it might actually be
> beneficial after all.  Does anybody have any experience with it, good or
> bad?  I'm particularly interested in how long you can go between
> changes.  This is where I really wonder about it.  I guess it doesn't
break
> down so you can use it longer, but it keeps junk suspended that you want
to
> get rid of when you change the oil.
>
> ~Dan
>
> 1950 F1 351C--The reluctant daily driver thanks to the MTA strike.
> 1998 Explorer--With tires made in NC.  Not recalled--yet...
>
>
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Date:  2 Oct 00 22:17:05 EDT
From: Tim Turner <ManicMechanicNC netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Synthetic Oil]

Dan Wentz <dwentz earthlink.net> wrote:

> I used to think that synthetic oil was just an expensive gimmick, but
> recently I've been persuaded into believing that it might actually be
> beneficial after all.

Depending on your needs it certainly can be.

> Does anybody have any experience with it, good or
> bad?

With the exception of it seeming to leak at a quicker rate Vs. standard oils
none bad from me.

> I'm particularly interested in how long you can go between
> changes.

In Kim's car I use Mobil-1 10w30 and rather than the 3,000 I take it to the
7,500 mark.  I wouldn't suggest it, but I went 15-20,000 a couple times in my
old Festiva; no idea if there were any long term effects from that as it was
totaled at 60,000.  :-(  FWIW Kim's car certainly qualifies for 'severe'
service being used 5 nights a week for pizza delivery.

> This is where I really wonder about it.  I guess it doesn't break
> down so you can use it longer, but it keeps junk suspended that you want to

> get rid of when you change the oil.

Just my opinion, but I think it's more the 'additives' that break down over
time rather than the base oil itself regardless of the type hence the
recommendation to stay inside the OEM interval.  (But above the time honored
3,000.)


In the early 90s I felt the way you did about it being 'snake oil'.  After
some research I changed my mind; cold flow properties, heat resistance and
shear capabilites sold me on it.  You may have seen the TV ad where Jeremy
Mayfield talks about Mobil-1 and the oil temp. gauge being pegged for most  of
the race and "What got cooked was me"  Some 7-8 years earlier I listened to
Ricky Craven tell a similar tale at our shop during his first year in the
Winston cup series.  There's a definite reason that some high performance
vehicles have synthetic as the original and recommended oil.  (Watch the oil
temp. guage on a Corvette when you flog it sometime and you'll see it easily
pass 300; the extra protection is nice to have...)


> 1998 Explorer--With tires made in NC.  Not recalled--yet...

Of course not; we make good stuff here in NC.  ;-)  Seriously though...  I
hope Firestone doesn't go broke from this; too many workers 90 miles from here
employed at that plant.

Tim

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