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small-list Digest Thu, 14 Sep 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 150

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Cold Idle Problem
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Intermittent 4WD Lights
Re: [Cold Idle Problem]
Re: [small-list ford-trucks.com]
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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 05:32:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Ciocco <bciocco yahoo.com>
Subject: Cold Idle Problem

"If the valve dies completely there will be little change in RPM from cold start to
fully warmed but passing this doesn't rule out a partial failure."

I saw this answer to another concern and am wondering if this may be why my BII is stalling when
cold (due to low idle), it runs fine when warm. Is there a temp sensor other than the one for the
gauge? Any other possibilities? (Not EGR, changed it to solve my warm stall problem, fixed it)
Actual symptoms:
Starts fine. Runs at high idle for approx 5 seconds and drops to regular idle. Stalls when I put
it in gear (unless I feather the gas). Runs fine w/ A/C (Still using it in Charlotte). 87 BII,
2WD, V6, A4OD (LD?), 260,000 miles - No Firestones (Never liked after that Firestone 500 issue).

Thanks,
Bill

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From: "Dave Gleason" <SonLight ixpnet.com>
Subject: small-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 06:18:11 -0700


The dealer has had the car for two days, today makes 3!  Last time they replaced the gem, this time they replaced the shift motor, but it still won't shift in to 4wd.  They told me last night that they had been talking to Ford Engineering and had a couple ideas to try today.  I'll talk to them about the electrical.
Thanks!
Dave
>> The 4wd on my '98 Explorer has been in to the dealer once when it quit
functioning.  The 4wd hi and lo lights  flashed in sequence and the 4wd would
not engage.  The dealer did something, but now, about 6 weeks later, the
problem is back.

>Usually moisture/corrosion in the electrical connectors around the tranny, but
actuators and modules have their problems as well.

>>Has anyone else had a similiar problem, and if so, what fixed it permanantly?


>Might want to have the dealer check for TSBs regarding revised connectors
(typical) or inspecting them yourself and cleaning the terminals then
reassembling using dielectric grease between the mating halves.

Tim



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From: "Ron & Madeline Trampe" <telh frontiernet.net>
Subject: Intermittent 4WD Lights
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:55:42 -0500

> The 4wd on my '98 Explorer has been in to the dealer once when it quit
functioning.  The 4wd hi and lo lights  flashed in sequence and the 4wd
would
not engage.  The dealer did something, but now, about 6 weeks later, the
problem is back.

Usually moisture/corrosion in the electrical connectors around the tranny,
but
actuators and modules have their problems as well.

Has anyone else had a similiar problem, and if so, what fixed it
permanantly?


Might want to have the dealer check for TSBs regarding revised connectors
(typical) or inspecting them yourself and cleaning the terminals then
reassembling using dielectric grease between the mating halves.

Tim
>
> Dave Gleason
>
>
>
I had the cable replaced from the trans. to the computer.
Ron
telh frontiernet.net



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Date: 15 Sep 00 23:03:03 EDT
From: Tim Turner <ManicMechanicNC netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Cold Idle Problem]

Bill Ciocco <bciocco yahoo.com> wrote:
> "If the valve dies completely there will be little change in RPM from cold
start to
> fully warmed but passing this doesn't rule out a partial failure."
>
> I saw this answer to another concern and am wondering if this may be why my
BII is stalling when
> cold (due to low idle),

Possibly...

> it runs fine when warm. Is there a temp sensor other than the one for the
> gauge?

Most certainly; As I recall it's near the thermostat housing, the connector is
roughly 3/4" diameter with 2 pins in it.

> Actual symptoms:
> Starts fine. Runs at high idle for approx 5 seconds and drops to regular
idle.

Before the problem started how did it act cold?  High for 5 Sec. then a
'gradual' drop over the next 15-200 Seconds?

> Stalls when I put
> it in gear (unless I feather the gas). Runs fine w/ A/C (Still using it in
Charlotte).

And in Wilmington!


Tim

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Date: 15 Sep 00 23:16:15 EDT
From: Tim Turner <ManicMechanicNC netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [small-list ford-trucks.com]

"Dave Gleason" <SonLight ixpnet.com> wrote:
>
> The dealer has had the car for two days, today makes 3!  Last time they
replaced the gem, this time they replaced the shift motor, but it still won't
shift in to 4wd.  They told me last night that they had been talking to Ford
Engineering and had a couple ideas to try today.  I'll talk to them about the
electrical.

Forgot about the GEM, probably a good call there.  A good friend used to work
for Chry and got to know the engineering dept. well!  Ford's diagnostic
routines leave a bit to be desired at times, but they're several orders of
magnitude better than Mopar's...  If I had a Dollar for every Mopar computer
condemned by the 'proper' tests in the US I could retire.  ;-)  (Of course a
buck for every one replaced of all makes by guessing or poor testing would
qualify me as wealthy...)

Hope it's fixed soon!

Tim

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Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 18:40:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chuck Badger <chuckbadger yahoo.com>
Subject: OBD-II code reader




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