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small-list Digest Thu, 31 Aug 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 140

In This Issue:
Re: BII's/Rangers
Re: '95 ford Ranger horn replacement
Re: BII's/Rangers
Re: BII's/Rangers
just a test, disregard....
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Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 23:30:09 -0700
From: Jon and Jody <psycho direct.ca>
Subject: Re: BII's/Rangers

Since nobody jumped in, I'll pass on what little I know...

"Azie L. Magnusson" wrote:

> When was the 4.0 introduced into Rangers?

I believe it was 1990

> Was it ever used in BII's??

There are rumoured to be a few, but I've never seen one.  If you DO find one,
GRAB IT!  It would be worth a bit for rarity.

> Was
> the
> BII and the Explorer ever made the same years or was the explorer a
> replacement
> for the BII?

Possibly, and yes.  Also rumoured to be a few BII's badged as Explorers, and a
few Explorers badged as BII's (something about the Explorer name being kinda
last minute.)

>
> Looking at some early BII's and some Rangers of the same years and don't
> know
> squat about them.

Greatest small trucks on the planet, and only the older yota's are even in the
same league (though still not as good), but that may just be my own
opinion...(grin)

>  Give me some clues as to what to look for and what
> particulars
> to avoid!!

Personally, I'd say get a V6, but which one is up to you.  I don't want to get
the whole "which motor is best" thread started again.

>
> Seriously considering a 351W and AOD for installiation in above project..
> May wind up with 302 and AOD.

I've heard that the 302 is a bit easier to swap in, for clearance reasons.
I'm planning a 302 for Broncenstein, hopefully with a 5-speed, by next year.

Blue coyote
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.Broncenstein.homestead.com/Untitled1.html


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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 08:57:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: brian opp - Sun Microsystems Hardware <Brian.Opp East.Sun.COM>
Subject: Re: '95 ford Ranger horn replacement

No, I haven't checked any junkyards yet for Ranger or other Ford model horns.  I
was hoping to find something I liked in stores first, but like I said, short of
buying an air horn, they all sound too wimpy!

I'll call a local junkyard and see what I can find.

thanks,
Brian

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Best place to try will probably be the junk yards.  Have you checked to
see
if other horns will work from other Ford trucks?  That might help you
expand
your options a little.  I know that I will be getting a chrome air horn
in
the next few weeks, just for the fact that the factory horns are not
loud
enough.  I want one with the small electric compressor, that way I can
tuck
it away in the engine compartment and it will still look nice and clean
along with everything else that is under the hood.  I have a 96 Ranger
that
I transformed into a massive show truck, and I am going for the function
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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Re: BII's/Rangers
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:18:43 -0500

Thank you Jon & jody....

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon and Jody" <psycho direct.ca>
To: <small-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 1:30 AM
Subject: [small-list] Re: BII's/Rangers


> Since nobody jumped in, I'll pass on what little I know...
>
> "Azie L. Magnusson" wrote:
>
> > When was the 4.0 introduced into Rangers?
>
> I believe it was 1990
>
> > Was it ever used in BII's??
>
> There are rumoured to be a few, but I've never seen one.  If you DO find
one,
> GRAB IT!  It would be worth a bit for rarity.
>
> > Was
> > the
> > BII and the Explorer ever made the same years or was the explorer a
> > replacement
> > for the BII?
>
> Possibly, and yes.  Also rumoured to be a few BII's badged as Explorers,
and a
> few Explorers badged as BII's (something about the Explorer name being
kinda
> last minute.)
>
> >
> > Looking at some early BII's and some Rangers of the same years and don't
> > know
> > squat about them.
>
> Greatest small trucks on the planet, and only the older yota's are even in
the
> same league (though still not as good), but that may just be my own
> opinion...(grin)
>
> >  Give me some clues as to what to look for and what
> > particulars
> > to avoid!!
>
> Personally, I'd say get a V6, but which one is up to you.  I don't want to
get
> the whole "which motor is best" thread started again.
>
> >
> > Seriously considering a 351W and AOD for installiation in above
project..
> > May wind up with 302 and AOD.
>
> I've heard that the 302 is a bit easier to swap in, for clearance reasons.
> I'm planning a 302 for Broncenstein, hopefully with a 5-speed, by next
year.
>
> Blue coyote



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From: "Bobby Herring" <bdherring earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: BII's/Rangers
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:52:00 -0500

-----Original Message-----
> "Azie L. Magnusson" wrote:
> > Looking at some early BII's and some Rangers of the same years
> > and don't know squat about them. Give me some clues as to what
> > to look for and what particulars to avoid!!

I have owned an 89 super cab with 3.0 v6 auto, 92 reg cab with 2.3 4 cyl and
5 speed and now have a 93 SC with the 4.0 v6 auto. I greatly prefer the v6
over the 4 cyl, it seemed very gutless to me. There are several long hills
on the way to work and the 4 cyl made me have to go from 5th gear to 4th
before making it to the top. We don't have mountains in central Texas so
these are really hills.
I didn't notice that much difference in the gas mileage between the 4 cyl
and the v6's. The 4.0 has plenty of power for the small size of the Ranger.

The only mechanical problem I had came with the 2.3 and 5 speed. The pan
gasket deteriorated and turned into small rubbery pellets and completely
stopped up the oil pan pickup screen. My daughter was 16 and was driving it
at the time. She drove it until it locked up. Had to turn the crank and
replace the bearings. Called Ford and they said if it didn't have 70,000
miles on it, they might have done something. As it was, it was my problem
even though it was their gasket that caused the problem.
The 5 speed lost a spacer and the shifter hung in 4th gear. Was on a dirt,
curvy country road at the time and had a heck of a time getting it home with
no reverse and only 4th gear. Cost me almost $500 with me taking it out and
delivering it to the transmission place and re-installing it myself. Also,
the 5 speed has a circular slave cylinder that lives around the input shaft
to the transmission. Kind of like a disc brake caliper with a hole in the
center. Have to pull the whole transmission to get to it.

The 89 went over 100k. The 93 is at 144k. The 92 was totaled by my son.
Wrapped it around a tree when he went to sleep on the way home from work.


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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 11:19:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: brian opp - Sun Microsystems Hardware <Brian.Opp East.Sun.COM>
Subject: just a test, disregard....


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Date: 31 Aug 00 18:46:00 EDT
From: Tim Turner <ManicMechanicNC netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [BIIs/Rangers]

"Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 hiwaay.net> wrote:
> New to the small list,

Good to have over here Azie!  Looking in an old spark plug catalog for the
answers about years; might be a few trucks running around that don't match the
matrix though.

> When was the 4.0 introduced into Rangers?

1990

> Was it ever used in BII's??

1990 Only along with the 2.9 as a choice, I don't recall ever working on one
though so it might not have been a popular option?

> Was
> the
> BII and the Explorer ever made the same years

1990 was the last year of the B-II and 91 the first of the Explorer; the later
B-IIs look similar in the instrument panel etc. to the Explorer, but I dont
know how many parts interchange.  Possibly production of the B-II continued on
into the early part of the 91 year as 90s until parts ran out.

> or was the explorer a
> replacement
> for the BII?

Unfortunately.  (No offense to the Explorers; just liked the BII)
:-)

> Looking at some early BII's and some Rangers of the same years and don't
> know
> squat about them.  Give me some clues as to what to look for and what
> particulars
> to avoid!!

One common problem on the early B-IIs is tailgate cracking around the spare
tire latch.  This was updated with a new carrier and 'gate. A quick look will
tell which type it is as the updated carrier has a visible brace  between the
bows when the spare is in place.  Fuel guage senders are a semi-common problem
as are the oil guages.  Check in front of the door behind the fender for rust
as well.  The rear side glass is horrifically expensive on the B-II ($800-1500
PER side)!  Front end parts usually start going around 120-140K.

> Seriously considering a 351W and AOD for installiation in above project..
> May wind up with 302 and AOD.

A 3" body lift will help if you decide on the 351 but you'll still probably
have to modify the HVAC box a little.  Check Advance Apdaters web site for
more information; as I recall they'll send a free catalog that has good detail
about the installation.  I dont have the link anymore but there's a site that
sells the products for 428s in the Ranger.  (WoW!)


Tim

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From: "steve bozzone" <editor rockzone.com>
Subject: Re: BII's/Rangers
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 18:29:01 -0400

To my best reccolection, 92 was the last year of the 2.9.

Otherwise, you got it all.

Regards,
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Jon and Jody <psycho direct.ca>
To: <small-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 2:30 AM
Subject: [small-list] Re: BII's/Rangers


> Since nobody jumped in, I'll pass on what little I know...
>
> "Azie L. Magnusson" wrote:
>
> > When was the 4.0 introduced into Rangers?
>
> I believe it was 1990
>
> > Was it ever used in BII's??
>
> There are rumoured to be a few, but I've never seen one.  If you DO find
one,
> GRAB IT!  It would be worth a bit for rarity.
>
> > Was
> > the
> > BII and the Explorer ever made the same years or was the explorer a
> > replacement
> > for the BII?
>
> Possibly, and yes.  Also rumoured to be a few BII's badged as Explorers,
and a
> few Explorers badged as BII's (something about the Explorer name being
kinda
> last minute.)
>
> >
> > Looking at some early BII's and some Rangers of the same years and don't
> > know
> > squat about them.
>
> Greatest small trucks on the planet, and only the older yota's are even in
the
> same league (though still not as good), but that may just be my own
> opinion...(grin)
>
> >  Give me some clues as to what to look for and what
> > particulars
> > to avoid!!
>
> Personally, I'd say get a V6, but which one is up to you.  I don't want to
get
> the whole "which motor is best" thread started again.
>
> >
> > Seriously considering a 351W and AOD for installiation in above
project..
> > May wind up with 302 and AOD.
>
> I've heard that the 302 is a bit easier to swap in, for clearance reasons.
> I'm planning a 302 for Broncenstein, hopefully with a 5-speed, by next
year.
>
> Blue coyote
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.Broncenstein.homestead.com/Untitled1.html
>
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From: "steve bozzone" <editor rockzone.com>
Subject: Re: BII's/Rangers
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 01:40:55 -0400

Wow.. maybe i should read the post better before i respond.

Sorry, a little out of it this past week.

Take care,
steve

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From: steve bozzone <editor rockzone.com>
To: <small-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 6:29 PM
Subject: [small-list] Re: BII's/Rangers


> To my best reccolection, 92 was the last year of the 2.9.
>
> Otherwise, you got it all.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jon and Jody <psycho direct.ca>
> To: <small-list ford-trucks.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 2:30 AM
> Subject: [small-list] Re: BII's/Rangers
>
>
> > Since nobody jumped in, I'll pass on what little I know...
> >
> > "Azie L. Magnusson" wrote:
> >
> > > When was the 4.0 introduced into Rangers?
> >
> > I believe it was 1990
> >
> > > Was it ever used in BII's??
> >
> > There are rumoured to be a few, but I've never seen one.  If you DO find
> one,
> > GRAB IT!  It would be worth a bit for rarity.
> >
> > > Was
> > > the
> > > BII and the Explorer ever made the same years or was the explorer a
> > > replacement
> > > for the BII?
> >
> > Possibly, and yes.  Also rumoured to be a few BII's badged as Explorers,
> and a
> > few Explorers badged as BII's (something about the Explorer name being
> kinda
> > last minute.)
> >
> > >
> > > Looking at some early BII's and some Rangers of the same years and
don't
> > > know
> > > squat about them.
> >
> > Greatest small trucks on the planet, and only the older yota's are even
in
> the
> > same league (though still not as good), but that may just be my own
> > opinion...(grin)
> >
> > >  Give me some clues as to what to look for and what
> > > particulars
> > > to avoid!!
> >
> > Personally, I'd say get a V6, but which one is up to you.  I don't want
to
> get
> > the whole "which motor is best" thread started again.
> >
> > >
> > > Seriously considering a 351W and AOD for installiation in above
> project..
> > > May wind up with 302 and AOD.
> >
> > I've heard that the 302 is a bit easier to swap in, for clearance
reasons.
> > I'm planning a 302 for Broncenstein, hopefully with a 5-speed, by next
> year.
> >
> > Blue coyote
> > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.Broncenstein.homestead.com/Untitled1.html
> >
> > ============================================================= ....

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