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In this issue:

RE: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys
Re: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys
Re: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys
FTE Small - Re: Tire sizing & pressures
Re: FTE Small - hard starting 4.0

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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:23:36 -0600
From: "Tony Rio - (Chicago)" tigroupchicago.com>
Subject: RE: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys

The BFG's in question also list only a max pressure on the sidewall.
However, as I sit here I seem to remeber getting a sheet when I bought mine
that listed optimal tire pressure v. vehicle weight v. average speed.

I'll see if I can find it this evening.

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[mailto:owner-small-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of David Cooley
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 8:37 PM
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys


At 06:37 PM 1/17/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Steve,
>
> I would check the TIRE MANUFACTURER recommendation, found on the
> sidewalls of the tires. I suspect you'll find the recommendation to be
> 45 psi or higher. You probably had passenger tires before; you now have
> "truck" tires.

The firestone atx's that come on the explorers say 34psi max on the
sidewall.
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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:44:53 EST
From: Bakend aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys

In a message dated 1/17/00 9:09:41 PM Mountain Standard Time,
n5xmt bellsouth.net writes:

And funnier yet, here in Denver Sears refused to install the LT tires!~
D Baken
> Funny thing about that is, places like National Tire, Sears etc, refuse to
> put P tires on an explorer, and say that "ford will not let them install
> anything but LT tires to avoid liability claims".
> Even funnier is the owners manual lists the tires as P as well! NTB
claims
> the manuals were "printed that way in error".
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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:03:34 -0500
From: "Mike Haight" home.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys

FORD sold my Ranger to me in 91 (92 model year) with stock Firestone Radial
ATX tires, which is what they also put on many Explorers until they came out
with the Wilderness series. Anyway, they are "P" series and rated at 35psi
Max UNDER LOAD. I have Touring tires on my T-Bird and they are rated at
44psi Max pressure. As stated, it varies based on the tire manufacturer and
rating of the tires. The side wall rating for Max psi is what you should go
by...and I might tell those folks at Sears and NTB that if you--the
customer--want "P" tires, especially the Firestone ATX then they should do
it or loose the business. Unless you want the LT tires then don't let them
try to sell you something you don't want or don't need (especially if you
only used your Explorer for highway driving and little to no off-road
driving). Now, if you do much off-roading, especially climbing rocks then
you should definitely get the LT tires (stronger sidewalls and better tread
lock/grip on rocks and loose gravel).

Thank You.
Take Care and Have a Good Day.
CUL8R, Mike

- ----- Original Message -----
From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
To: ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys


> At 08:57 PM 1/17/00 -0600, you wrote:
> >David,
> >
> > I don't doubt that your Firestone atx's are rated for 35 psi
> > max. I'll bet if you check, you'll find that they are "P" series tires
> > (P225/75, etc.) The "P" means passenger, as in passenger car. The
> > larger size tires are not "P" series, they are classified as "truck"
> > tires and carry a higher load-carrying rating and use higher inflation
> > pressures. A friend of mine recently purchased a 3/4 ton Dodge Ram
which
> > has tires rated at 60 psi.
> >However, his previous vehicle, a Jeep Grand Cherokee, had new tires rated
> >at 55 psi max. It depends on the classification.
>
>
>
> Sure enough, they are P235/75/15
> Funny thing about that is, places like National Tire, Sears etc, refuse to
> put P tires on an explorer, and say that "ford will not let them install
> anything but LT tires to avoid liability claims".
> Even funnier is the owners manual lists the tires as P as well! NTB
claims
> the manuals were "printed that way in error".
>
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> Packet: N5XMT KQ4LO.#INT.NC.USA.NA T.A.P.R. Member #7068
> We are Borg... Prepare to be assimilated!
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Date: 18 Jan 00 18:20:46 EST
From: Tim Turner netscape.net>
Subject: FTE Small - Re: Tire sizing & pressures

"Tony Rio - wrote:
> The BFG's in question also list only a max pressure on the sidewall.
> However, as I sit here I seem to remember getting a sheet when I bought=

mine
> that listed optimal tire pressure v. vehicle weight v. average speed.
> =

> I'll see if I can find it this evening.
> =


And I'll try to remember to look in the tire information book tomorrow at=

work, but as I recall when going up in tire size from original it's
recommended to add 2-4 PSI to the OE pressure (per size on the same rim),=
but
not to exceed the max rating of the tire or wheel.

> =

> At 06:37 PM 1/17/00 -0600, you wrote:
> >Steve,
> >
> > I would check the TIRE MANUFACTURER recommendation, found on the
> > sidewalls of the tires. =


Except that's the MAX pressure that tire is rated for. Let's take an
(extreme) example and go from a P235/75/15 rated for 35 PSI and the stock=

wheel also rated for 35 PSI, put on some Bridgestone Dueler A/T 31x11.5 L=
Ts
rated for 60 PSI. If we go to 60 PSI it's going to ride like a brick and=

we're way over the pressure rating of the rim.

In addition some vehicles seem quite sensitive to changes from the OE
pressure. An old boss of mine had a 93 Explorer with subtle ride problem=
s at
highway speed. After new radius arm bushings and several other parts the=

'front-end' guys at the shop threw at it the final fix was a simple matte=
r of
letting the tires back down to OE rather than the 35 he'd been running...=


My B-II has 31x10.5's on the stock 5.5 rims (NOT suggested! should be at =
least
a 7" rim for 10.5s) and I run 24 PSI, but this is my 'fun' truck and does=
n't
see much highway driving and I keep it setup for sand and light mud duty.=
I
did go to 35 PSI when Hurricane Floyd sent me across the state in the B-I=
I
though.

ANYways.. I'm rambling again so I'll try to bring home one of our old tir=
e
books tomorrow

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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:59:23 EST
From: Dukedad777 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - hard starting 4.0

Wesley,
Sounds like you have the engine ping problem that a lot of us 4liter
Ford owners have experienced to some degree. You'll find some useful posts in
the archives . My 94 4liter Ranger has it too , I recently tried something
recommended on the Explorer Maintenance website , which was to tighten the
lower intake manifold bolts, and now can run 89 octane instead of a mix of
92' and 89, without pinging on hills or acceleration. Don't be intimidated by
the inaccessibility of the manifold bolts/nuts ( I think it is a mix) . It
can be done with the "right" socket. A 10 mm with a universal joint built in
worked for me.Some were loose. Cleaning the MAF sensor is another often
mentioned fix for this problem, but didn't work for me. Might want to try
this first though as it's easier to do.
Good luck,
Dave ( 87 octane or bust:)
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