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In this issue:

FTE Small - hard starting 4.0
FTE Small - Explorer rear door handle
Re: FTE Small - Explorer rear door handle
Re: FTE Small - Explorer rear door handle
FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys
RE: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys
Re: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys
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Re: FTE Small - hard starting 4.0
RE: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys
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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:15:05 -0500
From: "Pat & Paula" bconnex.net>
Subject: FTE Small - hard starting 4.0

I have a 91 Explorer with the 4.0 and it takes quite a bit of cranking to
start it in cold weather. Otherwise it runs very well. Does anyone have
any ideas how to remedy this? Thanks in advance.
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:41:29 -0600
From: Neal Armstrong ccsi.com>
Subject: FTE Small - Explorer rear door handle

The rear inside door handle of my '96 Explorer ceased to function last
week, and is sticking out at about a 20 degree angle. I know this is a
common problem, as it happened to my '95, but it was under warranty so I
don't know what parts, if any, were replaced.

Has anyone done this fix? If so, what part(s) will I need to have in
hand before tearing in to it?

TIA,

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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:42:50 EST
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer rear door handle

im not sure if this will help but go to the local auto parts store ( Pep
Boys is great ) and look for the HELP section they have allthe motormite
parts to fix these type of things.. Ford will probably be alot more
expensive..... their parts wear as well too, and that kit should have all you
need to repair it properly
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:59:20 -0500
From: "Kenneth J. Nagy" ixtelecom.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer rear door handle

Had the same problem on my '96. Kids yanked on the handle as they were
pulling up the lock. Very easy job as I recall. Part was ~ $15. Pulled
off the armrest screws and popped off the door panel (just be sure not to
crack it or scratch the paint.) Handle comes off easy. I did get from Ford
those little one use, push in fastener thingy's, in case the ones I removed
wouldn't work again. Job took about 10 minutes.

Good luck,
Ken

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From: Neal Armstrong ccsi.com>
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Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 09:41
Subject: FTE Small - Explorer rear door handle


> The rear inside door handle of my '96 Explorer ceased to function last
> week, and is sticking out at about a 20 degree angle. I know this is a
> common problem, as it happened to my '95, but it was under warranty so I
> don't know what parts, if any, were replaced.
>
> Has anyone done this fix? If so, what part(s) will I need to have in
> hand before tearing in to it?
>
> TIA,
>
> Neal
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:08:50 -0500
From: "Steinbrook, Steve" mail.rfweston.com>
Subject: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys

Two weeks ago I had new tires put on my 1996 Explorer Sport. For Christmas
I received gift certificates for Pep Boys (an auto parts mega store, I think
they are national) to get new tires. They special ordered BFG AT/TA KO's
for me. I have a few comments as well as a question.

I have been buying things at Pep Boys for years but this is the first time
they have special ordered something for me and the first time they have ever
performed any service on my truck. Sadly, this was also the last time they
will ever touch my truck. The price for the four tires was not comparable
to other local sources. I ended up paying $550 for the four tires (31 X
10.5 15), installed. They were advertised for $99 a tire installed
elsewhere. The mistake was mine for not checking the price before asking
for the gift certificates for Christmas. Fine, I'll take the blame for that
one. The second problem came with the installation. The service manager
asked what I kept the tire pressure at. I told him that Ford recommended 27
(for the stock 235/75 15's) but I usually kept them at 29. He said fine and
marked it on the order. When I got the truck back, these were the pressures
I found. Right rear, 20 psi, right front, 40, left rear, 60, and left front
55. Not only is this incompetent, but it seems rather dangerous as well,
had I not checked right away. I have not received a reply to an e-mail I
sent to Pep Boys customer service yet.

My question is what is a good pressure to run the tires at? I do a lot of
highway driving. Since the new tires are bigger, can I put more pressure in
the tires or does the Ford recommendation still hold?
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:52:26 -0600
From: "Tony Rio - (Chicago)" tigroupchicago.com>
Subject: RE: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys

I run my BFG AT/ko's (30x9.5) on my Jeep(!) at around 38psi if I remember
correctly (I can check when I get home tonight) for city and highway
driving.

When off-roading (dirt, rocks, water, et) I have run them at 12psi on my
15x7 rims. I have run also run them as low as 7psi at the dunes, but did
pop a bead on the front-passenger tire. No big deal... on-board air rules!
Just had to keep filling it every 30 minute or so as the bead got sand in
it.

I paid about $600 for 5 of them (upgraded from stock 205/75r15, so the spare
had to go too) with balancing, mounting and road hazard from NTB. I would
highly recommend them as their road hazard even covered the one that I
popped the bead on... three days after I purchased them! (had them clean the
bead and re-mount the tire for me).

Did you also adjust your speedomoeter and ABS system to compensate for the
larger tire? I need new tires on my 95 Explorer, and was thinking about
going to the BFG AT/ko's in a 31" tire.

Tony

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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:28:11 -0500
From: "Mike Haight" home.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys

I've always found that running my tires at the MAX PSI rated on the side of
the tire gives me the best return on my money. I am still running the stock
Firestone Radial ATX tires on my 92 Ranger and currently have over 75,000
miles on them and enough tread to make it another 10,000--that is if the
rubber holds out since it is already 8 years old. Of course, proper
inflation is only one ingredient in making tires last....proper rotation and
balancing and a good cleaning and some rubber/leather/vinyl coating every so
often makes them go the distance. Now, I am not touting the Firestones
although I've had good luck with them. Next time I will try the Michelin
LTX as I've heard many good things about them.

Thank You.
Take Care and Have a Good Day.
CUL8R, Mike

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From: Steinbrook, Steve mail.rfweston.com>
To: 'ford trucks' ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 2:08 PM
Subject: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys


> Two weeks ago I had new tires put on my 1996 Explorer Sport. For
Christmas
> I received gift certificates for Pep Boys (an auto parts mega store, I
think
> they are national) to get new tires. They special ordered BFG AT/TA KO's
> for me. I have a few comments as well as a question.
>
> I have been buying things at Pep Boys for years but this is the first time
> they have special ordered something for me and the first time they have
ever
> performed any service on my truck. Sadly, this was also the last time
they
> will ever touch my truck. The price for the four tires was not comparable
> to other local sources. I ended up paying $550 for the four tires (31 X
> 10.5 15), installed. They were advertised for $99 a tire installed
> elsewhere. The mistake was mine for not checking the price before asking
> for the gift certificates for Christmas. Fine, I'll take the blame for
that
> one. The second problem came with the installation. The service manager
> asked what I kept the tire pressure at. I told him that Ford recommended
27
> (for the stock 235/75 15's) but I usually kept them at 29. He said fine
and
> marked it on the order. When I got the truck back, these were the
pressures
> I found. Right rear, 20 psi, right front, 40, left rear, 60, and left
front
> 55. Not only is this incompetent, but it seems rather dangerous as well,
> had I not checked right away. I have not received a reply to an e-mail I
> sent to Pep Boys customer service yet.
>
> My question is what is a good pressure to run the tires at? I do a lot of
> highway driving. Since the new tires are bigger, can I put more pressure
in
> the tires or does the Ford recommendation still hold?
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:36:36 -0500
From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys

At 05:28 PM 1/17/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>I've always found that running my tires at the MAX PSI rated on the side of
>the tire gives me the best return on my money. I am still running the stock
>Firestone Radial ATX tires on my 92 Ranger and currently have over 75,000
>miles on them and enough tread to make it another 10,000--that is if the
>rubber holds out since it is already 8 years old. Of course, proper
>inflation is only one ingredient in making tires last....proper rotation and
>balancing and a good cleaning and some rubber/leather/vinyl coating every so
>often makes them go the distance. Now, I am not touting the Firestones
>although I've had good luck with them. Next time I will try the Michelin
>LTX as I've heard many good things about them.

If you use armorall on them, one word of warning... use it regularly and do
not stop using it!
It saps the natural oils from the rubber and replaces them with it's own...
when you stop using it, the oils it supplies dry out VERY rapidly and the
rubber ages and deteriorates, cracking etc Extremely rapidly. Same with
dash surfaces... they dry, shrink and crack very soon after you stop using it.

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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:58:28 -0600
From: "Dennis Thompson" bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys

>If you use armorall on them, one word of warning... use it regularly and do
>not stop using it!

Is there anything better to use?
Please let us know.

SPECTRE

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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:24:54 -0500
From: "Will Brown" mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys

I think 303 is the best stuff for rubber/vinyl. The watersports folks
supposedly call it "the s--t" and use it to keep wrist and ankle
gaskets supple on dry/wet-suits

I use it on my Miata and B2300 (dash and interior bits) and it's
great. Actually seems to repel dust when used in the car.

fwiw I never treat my tires. Of course on the Miata I run hi-
performace soft tires that take a set in the driveway below 50F and
last about 10k-15k miles (if I'm lucky)

\/\/

On 17 Jan 00, at 16:58, Dennis Thompson wrote:

> >If you use armorall on them, one word of warning... use it regularly and do
> >not stop using it!
>
> Is there anything better to use?
> Please let us know.
>
> SPECTRE
>
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:37:03 CST
From: "James Steele" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys

Steve,

I would check the TIRE MANUFACTURER recommendation, found on the sidewalls
of the tires. I suspect you'll find the recommendation to be 45 psi or
higher. You probably had passenger tires before; you now have "truck"
tires.


>From: "Steinbrook, Steve" mail.rfweston.com>
>Reply-To: small-list ford-trucks.com
>To: "'ford trucks'" ford-trucks.com>
>Subject: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys
>Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:08:50 -0500
>
>Two weeks ago I had new tires put on my 1996 Explorer Sport. For Christmas
>I received gift certificates for Pep Boys (an auto parts mega store, I
>think
>they are national) to get new tires. They special ordered BFG AT/TA KO's
>for me. I have a few comments as well as a question.
>
>I have been buying things at Pep Boys for years but this is the first time
>they have special ordered something for me and the first time they have
>ever
>performed any service on my truck. Sadly, this was also the last time they
>will ever touch my truck. The price for the four tires was not comparable
>to other local sources. I ended up paying $550 for the four tires (31 X
>10.5 15), installed. They were advertised for $99 a tire installed
>elsewhere. The mistake was mine for not checking the price before asking
>for the gift certificates for Christmas. Fine, I'll take the blame for
>that
>one. The second problem came with the installation. The service manager
>asked what I kept the tire pressure at. I told him that Ford recommended
>27
>(for the stock 235/75 15's) but I usually kept them at 29. He said fine
>and
>marked it on the order. When I got the truck back, these were the
>pressures
>I found. Right rear, 20 psi, right front, 40, left rear, 60, and left
>front
>55. Not only is this incompetent, but it seems rather dangerous as well,
>had I not checked right away. I have not received a reply to an e-mail I
>sent to Pep Boys customer service yet.
>
>My question is what is a good pressure to run the tires at? I do a lot of
>highway driving. Since the new tires are bigger, can I put more pressure
>in
>the tires or does the Ford recommendation still hold?
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:35:23 -0500
From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys

At 04:58 PM 1/17/00 -0600, you wrote:
> >If you use armorall on them, one word of warning... use it regularly and do
> >not stop using it!
>
>Is there anything better to use?
>Please let us know.


I've just been using soap and water.

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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:36:54 -0500
From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys

At 06:37 PM 1/17/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Steve,
>
> I would check the TIRE MANUFACTURER recommendation, found on the
> sidewalls of the tires. I suspect you'll find the recommendation to be
> 45 psi or higher. You probably had passenger tires before; you now have
> "truck" tires.

The firestone atx's that come on the explorers say 34psi max on the sidewall.
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:42:14 -0500
From: "J Cope" <88biixlt fncool.com>
Subject: RE: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys

I run 30x9.5x15 BFG A/T TA KOs on my '88 BII. I do a lot of highway
driving, but a fair amount of off roading, and keeping the tires at 35psi
works for me.

JC
'88 BII XLT
10k tow hooks
40ch CB
Removed airbox
K&N
Light bar
Headlight Stone Guards
30x9.5 BFG A/T TA KOs
Fog lights
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My question is what is a good pressure to run the tires at? I do a lot of
highway driving. Since the new tires are bigger, can I put more pressure in
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:57:49 CST
From: "James Steele" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys

David,

I don't doubt that your Firestone atx's are rated for 35 psi max. I'll
bet if you check, you'll find that they are "P" series tires (P225/75, etc.)
The "P" means passenger, as in passenger car. The larger size tires are
not "P" series, they are classified as "truck" tires and carry a higher
load-carrying rating and use higher inflation pressures. A friend of mine
recently purchased a 3/4 ton Dodge Ram which has tires rated at 60 psi.
However, his previous vehicle, a Jeep Grand Cherokee, had new tires rated at
55 psi max. It depends on the classification.


>From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
>Reply-To: small-list ford-trucks.com
>To: small-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: Re: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys
>Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:36:54 -0500
>
>At 06:37 PM 1/17/00 -0600, you wrote:
>>Steve,
>>
>> I would check the TIRE MANUFACTURER recommendation, found on the
>>sidewalls of the tires. I suspect you'll find the recommendation to be
>>45 psi or higher. You probably had passenger tires before; you now have
>>"truck" tires.
>
>The firestone atx's that come on the explorers say 34psi max on the
>sidewall.
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:00:48 CST
From: "James Steele" hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys

Sure, J, you are the one riding in the vehicle, and you are the one who
"pays the freight". The decision is yours. My recommendation was, and is,
use the tire manufacturer's inflation rating, not Ford's. The Ford factory
rating is for the original equipment tires.


>From: "J Cope" <88biixlt fncool.com>
>Reply-To: small-list ford-trucks.com
>To: ford-trucks.com>
>Subject: RE: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys
>Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:42:14 -0500
>
>I run 30x9.5x15 BFG A/T TA KOs on my '88 BII. I do a lot of highway
>driving, but a fair amount of off roading, and keeping the tires at 35psi
>works for me.
>
>JC
>'88 BII XLT
>10k tow hooks
>40ch CB
>Removed airbox
>K&N
>Light bar
>Headlight Stone Guards
>30x9.5 BFG A/T TA KOs
>Fog lights
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://88biixlt.web.com/
>
>------------------------------------
>My question is what is a good pressure to run the tires at? I do a lot of
>highway driving. Since the new tires are bigger, can I put more pressure
>in
>the tires or does the Ford recommendation still hold?
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:19:43 CST
From: "James Steele" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Small - hard starting 4.0

Pat & Paula

One interesting website which you should check out is:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http:///www.glue.umd.edu/~singletn/exp.html

You will find a great deal of useful information on maintaining your
Explorer. It is the only Explorer-specific site I have yet found.
Believe it or not, your problem could be your battery cable. (I know, I
didn't buy it either, when I read it on the website.) It seems that
Explorers were cursed with an extremely small-gauge battery cable, which
often causes starting problems, which as you know, will drive you nuts!!!!
This problem is not exclusive to Ford products. My wife has a 1995
Pontiac Bonneville which began to give problems about a year ago. She took
the car to two different dealers on at least six different occasions,
without success. It got so bad that on one occasion the vehicle lost all
electrical power and went dead in the road (if you can call 70 mph on
Interstate 10 in New Orleans, at rush hour, dead in the road). No power, no
steering, nothing. After sitting for 10 minutes, it started right up.
After my problems with the Explorer, I decided to check the battery cables.
When I pulled the positive terminal off the post, the whole end came off in
my hand. The corrosion had built up INSIDE the cable end and inside the
cable itself. I cut the end off, put on a 98 cent Wal-Mart universal
terminal, and away she goes!!! I ordered the correct cable from Pontiac (at
$ 79.95) but by the time it arrived, she said, "It works, don't mess with
it!!!"
All this is by way of saying, it may sound funny, but check your cables
first!


>From: "Pat & Paula" bconnex.net>
>Reply-To: small-list ford-trucks.com
>To: ford-trucks.com>
>Subject: FTE Small - hard starting 4.0
>Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:15:05 -0500
>
>I have a 91 Explorer with the 4.0 and it takes quite a bit of cranking to
>start it in cold weather. Otherwise it runs very well. Does anyone have
>any ideas how to remedy this? Thanks in advance.
>Pat
>
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:50:03 -0500
From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys

At 09:00 PM 1/17/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Sure, J, you are the one riding in the vehicle, and you are the one who
>"pays the freight". The decision is yours. My recommendation was, and
>is, use the tire manufacturer's inflation rating, not Ford's. The Ford
>factory rating is for the original equipment tires.


Hmm... Michelin and several other tire manufacturers recomend sticking with
the factory's inflation pressures off the door tag when running the stock
size tires... I've always split the difference between the tag and the
tire's max.


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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:56:30 -0500
From: Wesley Murphy highland.net>
Subject: Re: FTE Small - hard starting 4.0

I also have a 91 Explorer with a 4.0 which seems hard to start (although I
may be expecting too much after being used to 4cyl's). Another thing is
that the valves rattle like crazy if the engine is put under a load, like
say going up an incline at highway speeds. With 87 octane, they rattle
almost constantly, with 89 it's better, and with 93 octane gas, they almost
cease to rattle . I have a feeling the timing is advancing too much and as
soon as I can find someone with a timing light I'll confirm this. If the
timing is advanced, the next "fun" part would be to determine what's causing
the advance.

I'll try and keep the list posted in case anyone else is having similar
problems. Good luck with yours.

Wesley Murphy
91 EB Explorer 4x4


> I have a 91 Explorer with the 4.0 and it takes quite a bit of cranking to
> start it in cold weather. Otherwise it runs very well. Does anyone
have
> any ideas how to remedy this? Thanks in advance.
> Pat


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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:05:45 -0500
From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys

At 08:57 PM 1/17/00 -0600, you wrote:
>David,
>
> I don't doubt that your Firestone atx's are rated for 35 psi
> max. I'll bet if you check, you'll find that they are "P" series tires
> (P225/75, etc.) The "P" means passenger, as in passenger car. The
> larger size tires are not "P" series, they are classified as "truck"
> tires and carry a higher load-carrying rating and use higher inflation
> pressures. A friend of mine recently purchased a 3/4 ton Dodge Ram which
> has tires rated at 60 psi.
>However, his previous vehicle, a Jeep Grand Cherokee, had new tires rated
>at 55 psi max. It depends on the classification.



Sure enough, they are P235/75/15
Funny thing about that is, places like National Tire, Sears etc, refuse to
put P tires on an explorer, and say that "ford will not let them install
anything but LT tires to avoid liability claims".
Even funnier is the owners manual lists the tires as P as well! NTB claims
the manuals were "printed that way in error".

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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:50:28 CST
From: "James Steele" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys

David,
First of all, Ford has no control over the type of tires anyone installs
on their vehicle. Any, I repeat, ANY tire salesperson who tells you
different is either sadly misinformed or a damned liar! I personally have
never, I repeat never, seen any 2 wheel drive SUV smaller than the
Expedition/Yukon/Surburban with anything other than P series tires. Why,
you ask? It's simple. The next time you go to your favorite tire store,
compare the prices of similar size tires in both the P load range and the
comparable LT (light truck) range. The LT tires will ALWAYS be more
expensive, sometimes considerably so. Does anyone think that the
bean-counters at Ford, the wunderkinds who gave us plastic drivetrain parts,
leaky air conditioning connections, failure-prone heater cores, (the list
goes on forever) would spend one flippin' dime more than was absolutely
necessary on tires? Hell, no!!! Besides, LT tires tend to be stiffer (they
usually have at least two additional plys in the sidewalls, hence the higher
load rating) and the suburban moms wouldn't like the firmer ride!!!


>From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
>Reply-To: small-list ford-trucks.com
>To: small-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: Re: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys
>Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:05:45 -0500
>
>At 08:57 PM 1/17/00 -0600, you wrote:
>>David,
>>
>> I don't doubt that your Firestone atx's are rated for 35 psi
>>max. I'll bet if you check, you'll find that they are "P" series tires
>>(P225/75, etc.) The "P" means passenger, as in passenger car. The
>>larger size tires are not "P" series, they are classified as "truck"
>>tires and carry a higher load-carrying rating and use higher inflation
>>pressures. A friend of mine recently purchased a 3/4 ton Dodge Ram which
>>has tires rated at 60 psi.
>>However, his previous vehicle, a Jeep Grand Cherokee, had new tires rated
>>at 55 psi max. It depends on the classification.
>
>
>
>Sure enough, they are P235/75/15
>Funny thing about that is, places like National Tire, Sears etc, refuse to
>put P tires on an explorer, and say that "ford will not let them install
>anything but LT tires to avoid liability claims".
>Even funnier is the owners manual lists the tires as P as well! NTB claims
>the manuals were "printed that way in error".
>
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>Packet: N5XMT KQ4LO.#INT.NC.USA.NA T.A.P.R. Member #7068
>We are Borg... Prepare to be assimilated!
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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:12:54 -0500
From: David Cooley bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: FTE Small - New tires at Pep Boys

At 10:50 PM 1/17/00 -0600, you wrote:
>David,
> First of all, Ford has no control over the type of tires anyone