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small-list-digest Friday, January 7 2000 Volume 04 : Number 005



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In this issue:

FTE Small - How to fail a smog check (the hard way)
FTE Small - Chilton manual
RE: FTE Small - How to fail a smog check (the hard way)
Re: FTE Small - Chilton manual
Re: FTE Small - Chilton manual

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Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 10:30:53 -0800
From: "Tom Watson" johana.com>
Subject: FTE Small - How to fail a smog check (the hard way)

Well, it happened to me. I've got a '98 Explorer, and having to bring it
in to California from being registered in another state (Oregon) it
needed a smog check. I figured that with 30k miles on the clock and
still being under warrenty (it is 50k for smog things) it would be a
breeze. Well it was except for the very last thing. The whole thing
failed because of the GAS CAP. I couldn't believe it.

I then took my nice reports to a dealer to get the thing replaced
under warranty. I thought that I cuold show the parts guy the report
from the smog check place and get a new gas cap and that would be it. I
have some skills, and putting on the gas cap is at minimum one of them
since I've put many gallons of fuel down the pipe.

Not so fast... I need appointments and the whole thing needs to be done
by highly paid service people who must be trained in the fine art of
replacing gas caps. This takes at least a couple of hours of both my
time and theirs. I could almost scream....

I went down to the parts store and priced an after market one at less
than $20 (the dealer must get them for less!!). This makes little
sense. I'll follow thru and get the dealer to do the job (out of
principle!!) and see if things go better next time.

Just a warning. If you need to smog check a recent Ford product make it
a point to check the gas cap FIRST!! It might save you some time/effort.
The checker is an 8 inch round barrel that is about 12 inches long. The
one that the smog guy used needed an orange adapeter to work with the
Ford three groove (actually studs on the cap) gas cap. He then pumped
the end of the contraption and pressed a button. It came up as "fail".
I comiserated with him about the failure (jeez he was only doing his job
I had no beef with him) and we both tried the test a multitude of times,
even to the point of checking the tester with its standard caps (it had
both a "pass" one (green) and a "fail" (orange) one). At least the re-
test will be free!!

At least I haven't been labeled a "gross polluter" (*SIGH*).
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Tom Watson Generic short signature
tsw johana.com (I'm at home now)
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Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 18:14:00 -0500
From: Dwight & Tina Varnes lancnews.infi.net>
Subject: FTE Small - Chilton manual

Before I shell out the money for a sealed-in-plastic Chilton, can anyone
tell me if there is a concise fuel injection section in there that
explains how the system works?

Better still, would anyone want to fax me a copy from a factory manual,
or mail it (I will pay; heck, I'm already paying with a lousy running
truck).

TIA,
Dwight Varnes
1990 4x2 'S' 5 speed 2.3

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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:28:19 -0800
From: Ray Scheidnes nacm.com>
Subject: RE: FTE Small - How to fail a smog check (the hard way)

Welcome to the Peoples' Republic of California.

I see that you've already experienced one of the joys of owing a vehicle in
this state. I hope you don't plan on doing any modifications or upgrades to
your air intake system. That would be illegal here :)
I know - it's a sick joke...

- -----Original Message-----
From: Tom Watson [mailto:tsw johana.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 10:31 AM
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE Small - How to fail a smog check (the hard way)


Well, it happened to me. I've got a '98 Explorer, and having to bring it
in to California from being registered in another state (Oregon) it
needed a smog check. I figured that with 30k miles on the clock and
still being under warrenty (it is 50k for smog things) it would be a
breeze. Well it was except for the very last thing. The whole thing
failed because of the GAS CAP. I couldn't believe it.


At least I haven't been labeled a "gross polluter" (*SIGH*).
- --
Tom Watson Generic short signature
tsw johana.com (I'm at home now)
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:34:30 -0600
From: "Freewheel" bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Chilton manual

It has been my experience that unless you can find a professional manual
(Chilton does make them), the manuals you find in most automotive and book
stores are not very informative when it comes to in depth information on
later model fuel and emission systems. I have for my '84 Bronco 2 the
factory service and diagnostic manual, I think it is #H in the series.
What info exactly are you looking for? What year model, make do you have?
Larry


ICQ# 3156803

Stephen Hawking: "The 50-50-90 rule: Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of
getting
something right, there's a 90% probability you'll get it wrong."

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Dwight & Tina Varnes" lancnews.infi.net>
To: ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 5:14 PM
Subject: FTE Small - Chilton manual


> Before I shell out the money for a sealed-in-plastic Chilton, can anyone
> tell me if there is a concise fuel injection section in there that
> explains how the system works?
>
> Better still, would anyone want to fax me a copy from a factory manual,
> or mail it (I will pay; heck, I'm already paying with a lousy running
> truck).
>
> TIA,
> Dwight Varnes
> 1990 4x2 'S' 5 speed 2.3
>
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>

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Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 18:43:12 CST
From: "James Steele" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Chilton manual

I doubt that the Chilton manual will help you, but I'd suggest checking
with your local public library before the buy the manual. Most libraries in
my area (Mississippi Gulf Coast) have quite an assortment of Chilton books.
THE best book I have seen on Ford fuel injection systems is by Charles O.
Probst, called
"How to Understand, Service and Modify Ford Fuel Injection & Electronic
Engine Control" published by Robert Bentley publishers. It retails for
about $30 at your local Barnes and Noble or Waldenbooks store, or many
mail-order parts stores.
If you can be specific about what you need, send me a mailing address
and I will try to copy the portions you need and mail them to you.


>From: Dwight & Tina Varnes lancnews.infi.net>
>Reply-To: small-list ford-trucks.com
>To: small-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: FTE Small - Chilton manual
>Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 18:14:00 -0500
>
>Before I shell out the money for a sealed-in-plastic Chilton, can anyone
>tell me if there is a concise fuel injection section in there that
>explains how the system works?
>
>Better still, would anyone want to fax me a copy from a factory manual,
>or mail it (I will pay; heck, I'm already paying with a lousy running
>truck).
>
>TIA,
>Dwight Varnes
>1990 4x2 'S' 5 speed 2.3
>
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