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small-list-digest Saturday, December 4 1999 Volume 03 : Number 317



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In this issue:

FTE Small - 94 Explorer; 4WD vibration
RE: FTE Small - 94 Explorer; 4WD vibration
Re: FTE Small - 94 Explorer; 4WD vibration
RE: FTE Small - 94 Explorer; 4WD vibration
FTE Small - ticking in 2.9l
FTE Small - Tailgate
FTE Small - Squawking
FTE Small - Grinding

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:44:52 -0500
From: "Raymond C. Gray"
Subject: FTE Small - 94 Explorer; 4WD vibration

I've had my 1994 Explorer since 1997. 5 speed manual, 4L-V6, eddie bauer.

Mostly run in 2WD but last weekend put it in 4WD on a wet road. Found some
serious vibration in 4WD mode at 60+ MPH...vibration remained when I switched
back to 2WD. I stopped and backed up a few feet, then proceeded at 60+MPH; the
vibration was gone.

I'm suspecting something in the front wheel hubs but all this is new to me.

Any advice on how to proceed with diagnosis and repairs will be appreciated.

Ray


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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:00:18 -0800
From: Ray Scheidnes
Subject: RE: FTE Small - 94 Explorer; 4WD vibration

I have a 94 Ranger 4x4 which I've owned since new. From what I can recall
reading in my owner's manual, the 4x4 system in my Ranger (which should be
the same as what's in your Explorer) was not designed for use at 60+ mph. I
think it said to keep your speed at around 55 or less mph. My guess is that
you were probably going too fast for the system to keep up. Does it vibrate
at lower speeds??

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>
>
> I've had my 1994 Explorer since 1997. 5 speed manual, 4L-V6, eddie
> bauer.
>
> Mostly run in 2WD but last weekend put it in 4WD on a wet road. Found
> some
> serious vibration in 4WD mode at 60+ MPH...vibration remained when I
> switched
> back to 2WD. I stopped and backed up a few feet, then proceeded at
> 60+MPH; the
> vibration was gone.
>
> I'm suspecting something in the front wheel hubs but all this is new to
> me.
>
> Any advice on how to proceed with diagnosis and repairs will be
> appreciated.
>
> Ray
>
>
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Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 12:28:04 -0600
From: Scott Ford
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 94 Explorer; 4WD vibration

Ray Scheidnes wrote:
>
> I have a 94 Ranger 4x4 which I've owned since new. From what I can recall
> reading in my owner's manual, the 4x4 system in my Ranger (which should be
> the same as what's in your Explorer) was not designed for use at 60+ mph. I
> think it said to keep your speed at around 55 or less mph. My guess is that
> you were probably going too fast for the system to keep up. Does it vibrate
> at lower speeds??

well, it's not that the system can't keep up, it's more of a balance
issue. since
99% of people never go above 40 or so mph in 4 wheel drive, Ford didn't
go to
the expense to balance all the mechanicals in the front end to the same
degree as
the normal running gear, and thus you can get vibrations at high speeds,
especially
after you put a few miles on the vehicle, and everything is getting
pretty loose. Interestingly there must have been some demand for this,
because my new Ranger manual
says I can switch into 4 wheel drive up to like 80 mph. The new
Explorers never unlock
the hubs, so they are obviously well balanced.
If you haven't had your wheelbearings packed in a while, you might want
to do that.
might or might not get rid of the vibration, but it is still a good
thing to do
every year or two. (My '92 needed it about every six months, but I had a
bad habit of playing in the water)

Good luck

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:47:05 -0800
From: Ray Scheidnes
Subject: RE: FTE Small - 94 Explorer; 4WD vibration

Thanks for the information. I would also have to say that it's probably not
such a good idea to be going 60+ mph in the first place, when the road is so
wet or the weather is so bad that you need to engage 4x4 on the pavement.
Just my two cents...

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>
> Ray Scheidnes wrote:
> >
> > I have a 94 Ranger 4x4 which I've owned since new. From what I can
> recall
> > reading in my owner's manual, the 4x4 system in my Ranger (which should
> be
> > the same as what's in your Explorer) was not designed for use at 60+
> mph. I
> > think it said to keep your speed at around 55 or less mph. My guess is
> that
> > you were probably going too fast for the system to keep up. Does it
> vibrate
> > at lower speeds??
>
> well, it's not that the system can't keep up, it's more of a balance
> issue. since
> 99% of people never go above 40 or so mph in 4 wheel drive, Ford didn't
> go to
> the expense to balance all the mechanicals in the front end to the same
> degree as
> the normal running gear, and thus you can get vibrations at high speeds,
> especially
> after you put a few miles on the vehicle, and everything is getting
> pretty loose. Interestingly there must have been some demand for this,
> because my new Ranger manual
> says I can switch into 4 wheel drive up to like 80 mph. The new
> Explorers never unlock
> the hubs, so they are obviously well balanced.
> If you haven't had your wheelbearings packed in a while, you might want
> to do that.
> might or might not get rid of the vibration, but it is still a good
> thing to do
> every year or two. (My '92 needed it about every six months, but I had a
> bad habit of playing in the water)
>
> Good luck
>
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Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 17:17:14 -0500
From: Steve Bozzone
Subject: FTE Small - ticking in 2.9l

I've been wondering for some time about the ticking of my 88 bii (2.9l
auto eddie bauer ).

It goes on and off and doesn't seem to depend on anything.. sometimes
I'll hear nothing, sometimes I'll hear a small tick, and sometimes it's
a LOUD tick tick tick. Nothing I do seems to have an affect on the
situation, it changes all the time.

I'm aware that it is the lifters.. but could it be anything else?

just passed 100k, thanks!

Steve Bozzone
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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 22:20:14 EST
From: Blest25913 aol.com
Subject: FTE Small - Tailgate

In a message dated 11/27/99 5:38:00 AM,
owner-small-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:


the right side of the tailgate lifted up without any resistance when the
tailgate was half opened. I cant ever remember it doing that. Is this normal
or damage inflicted by the import?
thanks, Chris Earls >>

My first Ranger, and my present one, work like that. Thats how the tailgate
is removed. I remove mine whenever I run the snowthrower up the ramps and
into the bed.

Ron Trampe

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 22:31:09 EST
From: Blest25913 aol.com
Subject: FTE Small - Squawking

In a message dated 11/30/99 5:45:05 AM,
owner-small-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:


making a creaking sound whenever I take corners at relatively low =
speeds. It's especially noticeable when I turn up my driveway. It only =
happens when the truck is either turning, or turning and climbing. I =
originally thought it was coming from the front-end (sounded like a =
loose tie-rod, worn ball joint etc). When I had it checked out they =
said everything looked good as new. The service manager at the =
dealership said it was probably coming from the frame cross members =
flexing. It doesn't make any unusual noises when I hit bumps in the =
road, so their explanation makes sense.

Has anyone had a similar experience? Does this explanation seem sound?

gerry
>>
My '96 has been doing this for the last 100,000 miles. Thanks for telling me
what it is. It sounds reasonable to me.

Ron Trampe
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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 22:48:52 EST
From: Blest25913 aol.com
Subject: FTE Small - Grinding

In a message dated 12/2/99 5:59:52 AM,
owner-small-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:


been a grinding vibration that seems to eminate from the front right during
healthy acceleration from a stop. My dealer spent two days loosening and
re-tightening anything they could find, but the vibration is still there.
I'm stuck with a loaner, please help!....


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