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small-list-digest Friday, December 3 1999 Volume 03 : Number 316



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In this issue:

FTE Small - Seat Frame
Re: FTE Small - Slave cylinder bad?
Re: FTE Small - Slave cylinder bad?
FTE Small - 1993 Ranger shop manual source
Re: [Re: FTE Small - Timing Chain]
Re: [FTE Small - Seat Frame] Cause?
AW: FTE Small - 1993 Ranger shop manual source

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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 07:28:51 -0500
From: "DuPont, Patrick"
Subject: FTE Small - Seat Frame

Richard,
I need to replace the frame to my drivers seat because it is slightly bent
to the right. I suspect I know who was responsible for that but obviously
would have a hard time proving it. FORD sells the frame for apx. $100 but
I'm hoping I can get a used one for a mere fraction of that. Apparently the
hardest part to replacing the frame is the disassembly/assembly. I
certainly welcome any comments on the labor involved in replacing the frame
also.
Patrick Dupont
Philadelphia, PA

'87 FORD Bronco II (http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/patrickdupont_19036)
'88 FORD Taurus
'96 FORD Windstar

>Patrick DuPont wrote --------------------------------------
>I'm in need of a drivers seat frame for my '87 BRONCO II.

>My reply --------------------------------------------------
>Hey, Patrick: What are you up to?
>I'm interested in modifying the seat of my '92 Aerostar to be more
>ergonomic.
>Richard

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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 05:50:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Mike Cagley
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Slave cylinder bad?

dwight --

i replaced the entire hydraulic clutch system and
clutch itself when i replaced the engine in my '88
2.3. really wasn't all that bad, parts cost around
$150-200 i guess. some parts (like the hose) were
only dealer items but weren't all that bad. let me
know if you want other sources. have great one for
transmission and clutch items, both price and quality,
at least so far.

as for reason things went awry, somehow you got air in
the system. i suspect the resevoir went low and
introduced the air and that started the peoblem. may
also be that clutch itself had worn enough to allow
slave to over extend and release fluid, or perhaps bad
o-ring at fittings.

you'll need a special tool to release quick
disconnnect at the slave. also, this system is
notorious for being the worst of all to bleed. i
tried to pre-bleed all parts prior to installation,
where i could manipulate their positions to replace
the air with fluid. once in place i let gravity push
any remaing air out. then pump-bled for good measure.
all bleeding operations once parts are in place have
to be done with the transmission attached to the
engine or you'll blow the slave apart.

let me know if you need anymore help, etc., or want to
chat via phone if it suits you. good luck.

mike

- --- Dwight Varnes wrote:
> Today in cold weather the clutch would not release
> fully unless pumped
> repeatedly...I guess I know what that means. No
> visible leaks in lines,
> reservoir or master cyl, pulled plug out of
> bellhousing and
> slave/bearing assy shows some dampness, fluid level
> in reservoir almost
> nil.
> So, in eyeballing the situation it appears trans has
> to come out. Is
> this right? What idiot designed this?? Haven't seen
> anything so
> bassackwards since I worked on Saabs...
> What other handy tips will I need to know? Bleeding
> a problem? Truck is
> a 2.3 2wd as below...
> Disgusted but still happy not to own a Nissan in PA
> --
> Dwight Varnes, insurance appraiser and car nut
> 1970 124 Spider (restored, mostly)
> 1986 Audi Coupe GT (bigger engine STILL at machine
> shop)
> 1989 VW Jetta GLI 16v (the wife's ride, tired but
> loyal)
> 1965 Buick Skylark conv. (unrestored, for sale)
> 1990 Ford Ranger 2.3 twin spark (parts runner and
> daily commuter)
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:17:18 -0500
From: Stephen.P.Donaldson jci.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Slave cylinder bad?

I had a slave cylinder go bad around 200,000 or so, 86 bronco II, If memory
serves, I had to cut a hole in the floor to access the pin that secures the
bleed valve, The clutch disk was fine but the slave cylinder was toast.
Other than that I dont think it was all that bad. It has 4 wheel drive so
the driveshaft, xfer case had to be dropped. I dont think your looking at
that much work. You may want to try to bleed the system first in case you
just got air in it. good luck!


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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 17:24:52 -0500
From: Paul
Subject: FTE Small - 1993 Ranger shop manual source

I just bought a 93 ranger and wonder if anyone knew a source for shop
manuals for this beast? Helm, inc. only shows a CD which is for dealers
only, and my searches have drawn a blank.

Thanks in advance,

Paul Gayda
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Date: 2 Dec 99 19:22:40 EST
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: [Re: FTE Small - Timing Chain]

Dave Slotter wrote:
> At 11:32 AM -0500 11/28/99, David Cooley wrote:
> >At 11:24 AM 11/28/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >>I'm not sure, but there may be a special tool to get the old module o=
ff
the
> >>distributor.
> >>Should be available at the parts store....

But a 5.5mm or 7/32" deepwell socket works well; some brands will need mi=
nor
grinding on the hex end to fit inside the mounting holes. Many engines
require rotation of the distributor for clearance though which calls for
re-timing by the proper method

> >
> >>Also not sure of the clearances around the dist on the 2.9, you may h=
ave
to
> >>remove it to get the module off.

Not required, but you may find it easier than fighting it where it sits..=
=2E
=

> >>On my 2.8 the dist is on the back of the engine (the only ford I've s=
een
> >>like this) and there is no room to work on it. Infact, the cap & roto=
r
> >>replacement is a tough job because the cap and rotor go on with screw=
s
and
> >>you need a stubby screwdriver and lots of colorful language to do it.=


It's worse on the 2.9... the intake plenum obscures it.

> >>I'm just glad the TFI on my 91 F-250 is on the fender.....
> >

> =

> The TFI module utilizes something called a "Hall Effect Sensor" which =

> measures changes in magnetic fields. If memory serves, the TFI module =

> measures the rate of spin of the rotor inside the distributor. =


For RPM, but also via a 'shutter wheel' when each cylinder is ready to fi=
re.

> Since =

> magnetic fields are relatively weak, I don't understand how one could =

> just relocate just the TFI. Are you sure it's not relocating the =

> entire distributor? (That sounds like a task in itself.)
> =


The Hall efffect is all still in the distributor (and has it's OWN share =
of
heat related problems), but the actual TFI module gets relocated. As lon=
g as
the module 'sees' a nice square wave input from the Hall it's content to =
call
anywhere home. In later years crank and cam sensors are used along with =
the
black box to determine which cylinder to fire without aid of a distributo=
r

Tim

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Date: 2 Dec 99 20:09:33 EST
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: [FTE Small - Seat Frame] Cause?

"DuPont, Patrick" wrote:
> Richard,
> I need to replace the frame to my drivers seat because it is slightly b=
ent
> to the right. I suspect I know who was responsible for that but obviou=
sly
> would have a hard time proving it. =


Knowing what I did to (both) reclining front seats in my vehicle as a tee=
nager
due to lack of room in the rear seat... I've got to inquire how it got b=
ent
to the right. ;-)

> FORD sells the frame for apx. $100 but
> I'm hoping I can get a used one for a mere fraction of that. =


Possibly a complete used one from a salvage yard? Use some cheapo seat c=
overs
if you cant find one with the same color/material; it'd be a whole lot le=
ss
work...

Tim

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:07:12 +0100
From: ThomasUcen premiereworld.de
Subject: AW: FTE Small - 1993 Ranger shop manual source

I bought Helm's shop manuals for my '93 Aerostar, they also include Ranger
and Explorer. The drivetrain, body and emmissions manuals were out of stock,
a friend of mine bought them used from a shop that had switched to CD. The
wiring and electronics were ordered at Helm. I just looked at
www.helminc.com, they offer the 1993 Aerostar/Explorer/Ranger shop manuals
on paper for $160 (FPS 1219993). I think this is what I have.

Tom
1993 Aerostar

- -----
Paul wrote:

I just bought a 93 ranger and wonder if anyone knew a source for shop
manuals for this beast? Helm, inc. only shows a CD which is for dealers
only, and my searches have drawn a blank.....


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