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small-list-digest Tuesday, November 30 1999 Volume 03 : Number 313



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In this issue:

FTE Small - creaking and moaning
RE: FTE Small - creaking and moaning
RE: FTE Small - creaking and moaning
RE: FTE Small - creaking and moaning
RE: FTE Small - creaking and moaning
Re: FTE Small - creaking and moaning
FTE Small - Off Road Shop in Northern NJ?
FTE Small - In-cab adjustable suspension

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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:40:55 -0500
From: g-man
Subject: FTE Small - creaking and moaning

My 96 Ranger Splash (RWD) 96,000 km's (about 60,000 miles) has been =
making a creaking sound whenever I take corners at relatively low =
speeds. It's especially noticeable when I turn up my driveway. It only =
happens when the truck is either turning, or turning and climbing. I =
originally thought it was coming from the front-end (sounded like a =
loose tie-rod, worn ball joint etc). When I had it checked out they =
said everything looked good as new. The service manager at the =
dealership said it was probably coming from the frame cross members =
flexing. It doesn't make any unusual noises when I hit bumps in the =
road, so their explanation makes sense.

Has anyone had a similar experience? Does this explanation seem sound?

gerry

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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:58:34 -0600
From: "Tony Rio - (Chicago)"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - creaking and moaning

When you find out, let me know. My 95 Explorer does the same thing, and
nobody has ever been able to explain it.

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My 96 Ranger Splash (RWD) 96,000 km's (about 60,000 miles) has been making a
creaking sound whenever I take corners at relatively low speeds. It's
especially noticeable when I turn up my driveway. It only happens when the
truck is either turning, or turning and climbing. I originally thought it
was coming from the front-end (sounded like a loose tie-rod, worn ball joint
etc). When I had it checked out they said everything looked good as new.
The service manager at the dealership said it was probably coming from the
frame cross members flexing. It doesn't make any unusual noises when I hit
bumps in the road, so their explanation makes sense.

Has anyone had a similar experience? Does this explanation seem sound?

gerry

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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:27:13 -0800
From: Ray Scheidnes
Subject: RE: FTE Small - creaking and moaning

My 94 Ranger made groaning sounds when turning at low speeds, like
entering/exiting driveways, once before as well. I determined that it had
something to do with the ridiculously long Rancho traction bars that I once
had on the truck (they connected at the frame below the cab, to the rear
axle near the shock mounts). I was right - as I turned into driveways at
slow speeds, the bushings of the trac bars would bind up and groan. Those
trac bars are long gone - not only do they look silly, they also interfere
with clearance and are not the most functional. Anyway, I'd check things
like your rear spring bushings. Maybe shoot some silicone spray on them.
And, check any suspension "add-ons" that you may currently have.

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>
> My 96 Ranger Splash (RWD) 96,000 km's (about 60,000 miles) has been making
> a creaking sound whenever I take corners at relatively low speeds. It's
> especially noticeable when I turn up my driveway. It only happens when the
> truck is either turning, or turning and climbing. I originally thought it
> was coming from the front-end (sounded like a loose tie-rod, worn ball
> joint etc). When I had it checked out they said everything looked good
> as new. The service manager at the dealership said it was probably coming
> from the frame cross members flexing. It doesn't make any unusual noises
> when I hit bumps in the road, so their explanation makes sense.
>
> Has anyone had a similar experience? Does this explanation seem sound?
>
> gerry
>
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:06:52 CST
From: "James Steele"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - creaking and moaning

I was told that the Explorer/Ranger frame was very flexible, while the body
was relatively rigid. Possibly the body-to-frame mounts are loose, or the
rubber isolators are worn?


>From: "Tony Rio - (Chicago)"
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>To:
>Subject: RE: FTE Small - creaking and moaning
>Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:58:34 -0600
>
>When you find out, let me know. My 95 Explorer does the same thing, and
>nobody has ever been able to explain it.
>
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>Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:41 PM
>To: 'small-list ford-trucks.com'
>Subject: FTE Small - creaking and moaning
>
>
>My 96 Ranger Splash (RWD) 96,000 km's (about 60,000 miles) has been making
>a
>creaking sound whenever I take corners at relatively low speeds. It's
>especially noticeable when I turn up my driveway. It only happens when the
>truck is either turning, or turning and climbing. I originally thought it
>was coming from the front-end (sounded like a loose tie-rod, worn ball
>joint
>etc). When I had it checked out they said everything looked good as new.
>The service manager at the dealership said it was probably coming from the
>frame cross members flexing. It doesn't make any unusual noises when I hit
>bumps in the road, so their explanation makes sense.
>
>Has anyone had a similar experience? Does this explanation seem sound?
>
>gerry
>
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 21:35:54 -0500
From: David Cooley
Subject: RE: FTE Small - creaking and moaning

At 08:06 PM 11/29/99 -0600, you wrote:
>I was told that the Explorer/Ranger frame was very flexible, while the
>body was relatively rigid. Possibly the body-to-frame mounts are loose,
>or the rubber isolators are worn?
>
Actually the opposite.
The frame is pretty tough and inflexible while the body will flex. Check
the body to frame mounts (Big rubber insulators underneath) as they can
wear and allow the body to move on the frame more than it should.
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:26:07 -0800
From: Adam McLaughlin
Subject: Re: FTE Small - creaking and moaning

Have you checked the bushings on the radius arms? These go bad all of the time in the explorers and the J p cherokees.

Adam

g-man wrote:

> My 96 Ranger Splash (RWD) 96,000 km's (about 60,000 miles) has been making a creaking sound whenever I take corners at relatively low speeds. It's especially noticeable when I turn up my driveway. It only happens when the truck is either turning, or turning and climbing. I originally thought it was coming from the front-end (sounded like a loose tie-rod, worn ball joint etc). When I had it checked out they said everything looked good as new. The service manager at the dealership said it was probably coming from the frame cross members flexing. It doesn't make any unusual noises when I hit bumps in the road, so their explanation makes sense.
>
> Has anyone had a similar experience? Does this explanation seem sound?
>
> gerry

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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 01:46:02 -0500
From: Geoffrey Hoffman
Subject: FTE Small - Off Road Shop in Northern NJ?

I was wondering if there were any good off road shops in the norther
NJ area (basically, metro new york city area). I am in morris
county, and wanting to do some major stuff to my truck, like a lift
kit and an ARB locker in the front, and don't want to do them myself
(a floor lift makes such a difference with stuff like this. :)

so, either a full 4-wheeler place, or at least a good garage where
people have had stuff like this done. anything even remotely in the
area is fine, just preferable someone who has worked with lifts and
lockers and such.

I would just prefer not to do this stuff at a random local garage, or
at the dealer. Plus, it would be nice to have a place to go that I
could talk to some people about this stuff.

thanks for your time.
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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 02:18:42 -0500
From: J Cope
Subject: FTE Small - In-cab adjustable suspension

I'm looking for a suspension system for my truck that would allow me to
adjust things like ride height from inside the cab. Does anyone know of a
system like this?
Any input is appreciated.

JC
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