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small-list-digest Sunday, November 28 1999 Volume 03 : Number 311



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Small - tailgate removal
FTE Small - RE: tailgate removal (Yup)
FTE Small - RE:tailgate removal
FTE Small - Timing Chain
Re: FTE Small - Timing Chain
FTE Small - Starting Problem (was: Timing Chain)

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Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:00:37 -0600
From: "John Becker"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - tailgate removal

Chris,
the very same thing happen to me. the same way in fact. Ford said
that it was from the accident. I was hit more on the right corner then
flat on the bumper. seems that the right frame bent up just a bit.

>Hey everyone,
>I have a situation i need some info on. My 86 Ranger was rear ended by a
>mercedes today as i was pulling into my driveway. Nobody was injured,
>although the mercedes had significant damage, my Ford only received some
>minor scratches on the bumper. As I was inspecting my truck I noticed that
>the right side of the tailgate lifted up without any resistance when the
>tailgate was half opened. I cant ever remember it doing that. Is this normal
>or damage inflicted by the import?
>thanks, Chris Earls
>
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Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:58:11 -0800
From: "Keith Christensen"
Subject: FTE Small - RE: tailgate removal (Yup)

>Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 21:35:47 PST
>From: "chris earls"
>Subject: FTE Small - tailgate removal
>
>Hey everyone,
> As I was inspecting my truck I noticed that
>the right side of the tailgate lifted up without any resistance when the
>tailgate was half opened. I cant ever remember it doing that. Is this
normal
>or damage inflicted by the import?
>thanks, Chris Earls.

This seemed right for tailgate removal, so I went out and tried it on my
trailer (just happens to be an '86 Ranger bed and frame)

That's exactly what it's supposed to do... the hinge is set up to separate
here if you lift up and pop out the side cables .




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Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 16:43:36 -0600
From: Tim Curran
Subject: FTE Small - RE:tailgate removal

Chris,

The tailgate should lift up on the right side at half open, the right side
should lift all the way off it's post, that allows the left side to slide off
for removal. As for the scratches, that's normal too, older Rangers usually
inflict more pain on the people that hit them, this is a feature that has been
to my benefit many times as my '88 XLT has been hit 9 times now, it's been rear
ended 4 of those times. Some time after the second time it got rear ended I had
the box repainted and for an extra $100 put a new bumper on (only because the
original chrome one was rusting) and replaced the step bars with an after
market set that is probably 10 times stronger. The last time I got rear ended
was by an Aerostar at about 25 Mph, it bent my bumper under 45 degrees, the
original bars would have buckled up and the cost of repairing not only the bars
but the tailgate and both bed sides would have been a pain to deal with because
it would have been a body shop doing it for the insurance company, lots of down
time. That afternoon I took off the bars, took them to a shop that had a press
and bent them back out ($15.00) and picked up new bolts (heavy duty, $20.00),
and drove it in the mean time, no down time.

>
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 21:35:47 PST
> From: "chris earls"
> Subject: FTE Small - tailgate removal
>
> Hey everyone,
> I have a situation i need some info on. My 86 Ranger was rear ended by a
> mercedes today as i was pulling into my driveway. Nobody was injured,
> although the mercedes had significant damage, my Ford only received some
> minor scratches on the bumper. As I was inspecting my truck I noticed that
> the right side of the tailgate lifted up without any resistance when the
> tailgate was half opened. I cant ever remember it doing that. Is this normal
> or damage inflicted by the import?
> thanks, Chris Earls

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Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:30:48 -0600
From: "C R Blanchard"
Subject: FTE Small - Timing Chain

My 88 Ranger (2.9L, 110k) stalled today and would not start back up.

When I crank the engine there is no sign that it is trying to start. Also,
the tach does not move at all while trying to start it.

I am suspecting the timing chain. Are there any other ideas on what would
cause this? Fuel Pump? Ignition Components? Etc...

If that is it are there any suggestions or helpful tips for the replacement
procedure?

Thanks,

Rick


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Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:35:58 -0500
From: David Cooley
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Timing Chain

C R Blanchard wrote:
>
> My 88 Ranger (2.9L, 110k) stalled today and would not start back up.
>
> When I crank the engine there is no sign that it is trying to start. Also,
> the tach does not move at all while trying to start it.
>
> I am suspecting the timing chain. Are there any other ideas on what would
> cause this? Fuel Pump? Ignition Components? Etc...
>
> If that is it are there any suggestions or helpful tips for the replacement
> procedure?

Does it sound like each cylinder has compression, or does it just spin
and sound weird?
If it sounds like normal when cranking, then check the ignition module.
That would make the tach not work.

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Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 23:52:52 -0600
From: "C R Blanchard"
Subject: FTE Small - Starting Problem (was: Timing Chain)

(snip)
From Rick
>> When I crank the engine there is no sign that it is trying to start.
Also,
>> the tach does not move at all while trying to start it.
>>
>> I am suspecting the timing chain. Are there any other ideas on what
would
>> cause this? Fuel Pump? Ignition Components? Etc...


From David
>Does it sound like each cylinder has compression, or does it just spin
>and sound weird?
>If it sounds like normal when cranking, then check the ignition module.
>That would make the tach not work.
>


We finally got it home this evening and started looking at it. I believe my
first hunch was wrong. It does not appear to be the timing chain because
the distributor and everything else is still spinning. I had assumed that
the tach had a cable like the speedometer.

Other info we have learned is that the coil is getting 11-12 volts, but is
not putting out any spark. I believe this is because the voltage has to
fluctuate for there to be any output (please correct me if I am wrong).

Tomorrow I will look into David's idea about the Ignition Module. Does
anyone know if there is a way to test this? My book only gave replacement
info and I could not find a computer code about it. I assume there must be
a way to test it.

Thanks.

Rick


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