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In this issue:

Re: FTE Small - Ford's Big AC/Heater Battle (Tim, please copy)
RE: FTE Small - Polishing an Explorer
FTE Small - Wipers malfunction
Re: FTE Small - Gallic Charm
Re: FTE Small - Ford's Big AC/Heater Battle (Tim, please cop
Re: FTE Small - Wipers malfunction
Re: FTE Small - Wipers malfunction
FTE Small - Gallic Charm
FTE Small - 92 Ranger - No Power
Re: FTE Small - 92 Ranger - No Power
FTE Small - ADMIN: Trim those replies
FTE Small - ADMIN: Aerostars
Re: FTE Small - 92 Ranger - No Power
FTE Small - Aerostars

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 07:50:09 -0400
From: "Theodore D.Mills"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ford's Big AC/Heater Battle (Tim, please copy)

On this thread, let me relate another story....

Over the course of about 10 years, I have split 4 heater cores in my 84
Mustang GT.

The cause seems to be the wonderful plumbing...
I was literally blowing heater cores apart!

One of the most embarassing had to be when Ferrari USA had an office here
in Aston, Pa.
Most of thier office yuppies used to flog Testarosas (spelled right??) on
Knowlton Road, a wonderfuly twisty 2 laner here.

Well, since I drove it to work every day, the 'Stang and I were very
familiar with the road.
Those guys would really get pi**ed when they'd look in the mirror and see a
"lowly" mustang glued to the rear bumper!! What great fun!!

Any ways, one of the last ones I blew let go at about 5K rpm in second
gear! It must have been quite a sight to see the 'stang with steam
billowing out the windows. Not to mention the gallon or so of hot
antifreeze all over my feet and the carpet!

I found out that Ford had the same problem with the late 80's Crown Vic
police cars and the fix was a restrictor in heater hose.

Rather than buy the stupidly expensive ford part, found a copper plumbing
fitting that reduced the I.D. of the 5/8 heater hose down to 1/2 inch.

Since the heater core was blown & bypassed when I tore the engine down for
rebuild, and it's not done yet, I have not tested this fix.

The real bright side is that since I've done the repair 3 times, I now have
the 8 hour job down to 4!

The part that sucks is since I have A/C, the whole dash has to come down so
you can get the plenum box out, which means you have to dump your freon.

Does anybody know how effective those r-12 to r-134a conversion kits are??


Thank You for riding SEPTA

Theodore D. Mills
Transportation Manager
Norristown High Speed Line Route Manager

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 06:37:46 -0700
From: Ray Scheidnes
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Polishing an Explorer

Hi,
I cannot tell you if the actual paint is different between the different
Ford products...
I use Meguire's products on my white 94 Ranger. The paint looks as good as
the day I bought it. If you're just washing and then waxing the paint,
you're basically sealing in the surface contaminants that you can't see.
Also, if your Explorer is a dark color and you park in the sun all day, this
will cause the wax to evaporate from your paint more quickly. What I do for
my truck, about once every 6 to 8 weeks or so, is to first wash and dry it.
Next, I use Meguire's clay-block removal system (I don't remember what it's
called exactly, but most well-stocked auto parts stores should carry it -
approximately $8 for the kit). This clay will pull off a lot of the fallout
on your paint that you can't see (but you can feel it on your paint).
You'll be amazed at the results if you've never used it before. Next, I use
Meguire's swirl remover (I think it's called #9). Then, I apply the
Meguire's pure carnuba wax (Yellow wax #26).
Sounds like a lot of work, and it is for a larger vehicle. I usually do all
of this in steps or sections. Maybe do the hood and roof one day, then the
doors, fenders and bedsides on the next. Sometimes, the sides only need
wax. Usually the upper surfaces need the most regular attention. Bottom
line is, this process works for me. I make the time, and many people
actually think my 94 is a 98!

> ----------
> From: Ron,Marge,Ted[SMTP:rmtsadu sunlink.net]
> Reply To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 4:06 PM
> To: Ford Truck
> Subject: FTE Small - Polishing an Explorer
>
> Hi All,
>
> Anyone here have any ideas about why after polishing my wife's 94
> Explorer only a month ago, it no longer beads up when wet? I have noticed
> this almost since it was new. It doesn't matter what brand of polish or
> wax
> I use, after it gets rained on a couple of times, it barely beads up. Now
> I
> use the same stuff on my 98 F-150 and also on my old 90 F-150, and they
> always bead up for months. Just wondering if there is something different
> about the paint used on the 94 Explorer compared to the other Ford
> products!
>
>
> Ron
>
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:48:47 -0600
From: "Roy Nemmers"
Subject: FTE Small - Wipers malfunction

I have a 95 Ranger and the intermittent wipers take
their name literally. Sometimes they won't turn on
in intermittent mode, sometimes the washer fluid
won't work. Sometimes they come on when the switch
is off. Pretty annoying. Is their a control module
that needs to be replaced or is there a way to take
apart the switch and clean it?

TIA
Roy
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:55:59 -0700
From: "Hans Luckoff"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Gallic Charm

Richard, I guess it must be the German in me that makes me see things
different. Regards, Hans
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Subject: FTE Small - Gallic Charm


> From: "Hans Luckoff"
> Subject: Re: FTE Small - Aerostars are trucks
>
> Richard, Why do I get the impression that you would look good in a
> Citroen,
>
> Me ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Very psychic of you, Hans. In fact I do look good in a Citroen. I had
> one of the DS series, and it was a damn finer piece of engineering than
> this Aerostar. And tougher, too. Better parts. And repairable.
> However, the hydraulics were crippled by the US Gov't requiring the use
> of DOT 3 brake fluid in in the suspension and steering (in all other
> countries, the hydraulics were filled with aviation fluid). There were
> certain problems...
>
> Hans ---------------------------------------
> Gaelic charm, you have got to be kidding.
>
> Me -----------------------------------------
> Now, Hans, I didn't say "Parisian arrogance."
> Do I detect a touch of nationalism?
>
> I was talking about the Citroen 2CV, a car that is so ugly that it is
> charming. The Aerostar is just ugly, has that sort of unrelieved droop
> like a British high-speed train front. And those sagging side windows
> (Man, did these guys need Raymond Loewy or what? Whoops! Did it again:
> another Frenchman).
>
> Richard
>
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:41:47 -0400
From: "william.hickey"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ford's Big AC/Heater Battle (Tim, please cop

Yes ... this is a good question ... This would be an easy fix for me in order
to
avoid running my AC constantly in the summer.


Now, here's the question for our mechanics on the list: is there some
significant reason why the water flow must be maintained here in the
manner of Ford's diverter valve? Would it be OK to install a simple
water valve in the input hose, just like all the cars used to have in
days of yore?
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:27:11 -0500
From: "David A. Cooley"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Wipers malfunction

At 10:48 AM 10/29/99 -0600, you wrote:
>I have a 95 Ranger and the intermittent wipers take
>their name literally. Sometimes they won't turn on
>in intermittent mode, sometimes the washer fluid
>won't work. Sometimes they come on when the switch
>is off. Pretty annoying. Is their a control module
>that needs to be replaced or is there a way to take
>apart the switch and clean it?


It's the switch itself... Contacts corrode. Ford has a TSB and they
replace it with one with gold plated contacts.

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:29:22 EDT
From: Usrock aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Wipers malfunction

I also have a 95 Ranger. Not long after i bought the truck my wipers quit or
maybe worked occasionally. I took it back to the dealer and they replaced the
entire wiper lever that is on the steering column. They have been working
fine since. Replacement might solve your problem. Good luck.
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:22:26 -0700
From: rgstein pacbell.net
Subject: FTE Small - Gallic Charm

Oh, yes. It is all coming back through the haze of time. Those O rings
always decomposing. Definitely, the Citroen DS is the most comfortable
and elegant place to wait for a tow truck. An adventure. Whereas, when I
await the tow truck in my Aerostar, I'm just p****d off.

Regarding the French liking the Aerostar's appearance, well, I mean,
they also like Jerry Lewis...

Richard

From: ThomasUcen premiereworld.de
Subject: AW: FTE Small - Gallic Charm

The DS was a beauty and the hydraulics were a good idea. But even in
Europe
it was full of trouble and this continued through the CX series. You buy
an
old DS or CX, you better have big cash in reserve for hydraulic repairs.
With my limited budget I prefer the Aerostar any time. Besides, the
French
like the looks of my Aerostar. Take it like the beetle: ugly is
beautiful....

Tom
1993 Aerostar

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:31:22 +0100
From: Jon Thiseth
Subject: FTE Small - 92 Ranger - No Power

I have a 92 Ranger with the 2.3l 5 speed with 84,000 miles on it. The
problem that I seam to be having is when the truck sits over night or
even for a couple of hours when it is colder - that for about the first
5 minutes when I leave the parking lot and get onto the street that
there is absolutly no power. It is very slugish and the more I step on
the gas pedal the worse it becomes. I am able to get the rpm's up in
first gear but when I shift to second it becomes a dog. By the time I
reach the end of the block it seams to be running fine. Although there
is harderly any power in this truck anyway. Would this be caused by a
bad EGR valve? What else could cause a problem similar to this. Any
help would be greatly appreciated since winter is on its way.
The other problem is that my truck just lacks power, exspecialy when the
wind is blowning I have a very hard time even keeping the speed limit on
the interstate (70 mph). Most of the time I will have to down shift
into fourth to beable to keep up with traffic. Is this a common
problem?? I would like to bealbe to atleast drive the speed limit with
pushing the truck so hard. Also the mpg is about the same that I got
out of my 88 4x4 ranger I had which also had the 2.3l with 5 speed which
is an average of 18mpg and now that it will be getting colder it will
drop off to about 15mpg. Most of this driving is in town but still I
think I should beable to pull over 20mpg. Dont you think. If I could
receive any help it would be great.


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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:36:30 -0500
From: "David A. Cooley"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 92 Ranger - No Power

Clean the MAF sensor, check for vacuum leaks, pull the vacuum line off the
fuel pressure regulator and see if there is gas in it... if there is, then
the regulator is bad and drowning the negine in fuel which will make the
rings,cylinder walls wear rapidly.

At 09:31 PM 10/29/99 +0100, you wrote:
>I have a 92 Ranger with the 2.3l 5 speed with 84,000 miles on it. The
>problem that I seam to be having is when the truck sits over night or
>even for a couple of hours when it is colder - that for about the first
>5 minutes when I leave the parking lot and get onto the street that
>there is absolutly no power. It is very slugish and the more I step on
>the gas pedal the worse it becomes. I am able to get the rpm's up in
>first gear but when I shift to second it becomes a dog. By the time I
>reach the end of the block it seams to be running fine. Although there
>is harderly any power in this truck anyway. Would this be caused by a
>bad EGR valve? What else could cause a problem similar to this. Any
>help would be greatly appreciated since winter is on its way.
>The other problem is that my truck just lacks power, exspecialy when the
>wind is blowning I have a very hard time even keeping the speed limit on
>the interstate (70 mph). Most of the time I will have to down shift
>into fourth to beable to keep up with traffic. Is this a common
>problem?? I would like to bealbe to atleast drive the speed limit with
>pushing the truck so hard. Also the mpg is about the same that I got
>out of my 88 4x4 ranger I had which also had the 2.3l with 5 speed which
>is an average of 18mpg and now that it will be getting colder it will
>drop off to about 15mpg. Most of this driving is in town but still I
>think I should beable to pull over 20mpg. Dont you think. If I could
>receive any help it would be great.
>
>
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:47:00 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Small - ADMIN: Trim those replies

Please trim quoted replies when posting to the list!
Consider this fair warning!

Later,
Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:58:47 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Small - ADMIN: Aerostars

For the record, this whole Aerostar issue was put to a
vote over a year ago. The Aerostar won by 56%. For
the record, I voted against it. However, I stand by the
decision of the users. If you have complaints about this
policy, take it OFF the list.

Aerostars ARE welcome, they are trucks, both by chassis
design and government classification. They were allowed
to be discussed here so long as the discussion is similar
to the other truck discussion (ie, no soccer mom "which
is the best child seat"). How can spark plug discussion
not apply to B2s, Explorers and Rangers? And if many of
you are honest with yourselves, you bought that Explorer
because you wanted the utility of the Aerostar without
having everyone brand you as a mini-van owner.

So until this list grows large enough to merit a separate
list for each type of small chassis truck, you'll have to
learn to get along. Trust me, FTE will accommodate more
lists when the traffic warrants it. That's exactly why
we've gone from 1 list to 8 lists in 3 years.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:24:47 -0700
From: Adam McLaughlin
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 92 Ranger - No Power

No, something is not quite right. My 1988 2.3 4x2 ranger can toast my 1988
2.9 4x4 *anytime*, except when going up hills. Something is definetely up.

Adam

Jon Thiseth wrote:

> I have a 92 Ranger with the 2.3l 5 speed with 84,000 miles on it. The
> problem that I seam to be having is when the truck sits over night or
> even for a couple of hours when it is colder - that for about the first
> 5 minutes when I leave the parking lot and get onto the street that
> there is absolutly no power. It is very slugish and the more I step on
> the gas pedal the worse it becomes. I am able to get the rpm's up in
> first gear but when I shift to second it becomes a dog. By the time I
> reach the end of the block it seams to be running fine. Although there
> is harderly any power in this truck anyway. Would this be caused by a
> bad EGR valve? What else could cause a problem similar to this. Any
> help would be greatly appreciated since winter is on its way.
> The other problem is that my truck just lacks power, exspecialy when the
> wind is blowning I have a very hard time even keeping the speed limit on
> the interstate (70 mph). Most of the time I will have to down shift
> into fourth to beable to keep up with traffic. Is this a common
> problem?? I would like to bealbe to atleast drive the speed limit with
> pushing the truck so hard. Also the mpg is about the same that I got
> out of my 88 4x4 ranger I had which also had the 2.3l with 5 speed which
> is an average of 18mpg and now that it will be getting colder it will
> drop off to about 15mpg. Most of this driving is in town but still I
> think I should beable to pull over 20mpg. Dont you think. If I could
> receive any help it would be great.
>
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:35:38 -0700
From: rgstein pacbell.net
Subject: FTE Small - Aerostars

Tim Turner wrote (quoting) -------------------------------

> The Aerostar is truly useful in cities with scant driveway clearance an=
d
> almost impossible parking (such as San Francisco). =


Although my B-II has a MUCH tighter turning circle, but not the
kid/cargo capacity..

Oh. I forgot to mention the awful turning circle. I'm always getting
stuck in my U-turns.

> Unfortunately, Ford accomplished this feat by jamming the engine in so=

> tightly that you damn near can't repair it at all. =


Said that right! I'd love a few minutes in a dark alley with the design
=
team
responsible for the engine compartment of the Aerostar. (For friendly
'discussion' only of course.) ;-)

I'll take those minutes with the CEO of Ford. This company has made some
mighty stinky decisions to shave a penny here and there, causing massive
maintenance costs for us poor unsuspecting customers. And burned
knuckles, sprained backs, etc. for you guys. I feel that I have
personally paid over and over for all those foreign car companies that
Ford has been gobbling up lately. Yeah, I know it ain't just Ford, but
Ford's what I own and it isn't right to not put a drain plug on the
torque converter just because GM doesn't

And now Chrysler has responded with i=
t's
'cab forward' designs... (Any idea where that cab wound up by going
forward?)

The cab is "embracing," "cocooning," and "warmly encircling" the motor
with affection.

(Dunno why your posts are coming onto my machine with all those =s at
line ends.)

I like what they did the year they moved the shifter from the floor to
th=
e
column. Use the carpeting in stock and cover the hole in the floor with
=
a
cheap cup holder attached by 2 screws that has to be removed to get the
s=
o
called 'engine cover' out.

As I probably posted, I just replaced my distributor cap & rotor. I was
so exhausted by the severe obstructions for this job that I took the
thing to a garage to finish with the wires and plugs.

On my '92, it is a bit different, Tim. The cupholder is attached with
one screw (hey, one screw is cheaper than 2 screws on a $23,000 product,
right?). That screw holds the cupholder to a plastic cover plate, which
has molded into it a purposeless "F**k Y*u" plastic finger that prevents
you from removing the aforementioned 'engine cover.' But, wait!
There's something else preventing you from taking off that cover. Why,
mercy me, it's the antilock brake computer module, neatly bolted right
below the ash tray. You can easily find the antilock brake computer: it
is a black slab that says "Mexico" on it. So thoughtful of Ford: I
always wanted my antilock brake computer right there in the middle of
the dashboard.

> The Areostar is not a cheap junky car: unfortunately it is a cheap junk=
y
> overpriced truck. Or perhaps we have just become accepting of being
> sold cheap junky automotive merchandise.

I hope that 'cheap' refers to quality not price..

That's what I meant.

If I tend to be sarcastic about the quality of my Aerostar (and I trust,
many other automotive products these days) it is because of the trends
that I began to see in the consumer electronic products that I was
repairing during the '80s. Manufacturers (with Sony leading the way)
began to cram the assemblies into the cabinets making it damn near
impossible to get at anything. When we'd tell customers that these
products were very hard to repair, they'd think we meant that they were
hard to fix because they were so technically advanced. They were hard
to fix because they were so obstructed.

Obstructed repair access was accompanied by a reduction of parts quality
and just plain overstressed parts (such as a unreinforced puny loudness
control with an enormous knob on the other side of the wall: you get
it). The final straw is the mfr charging very high prices for oem
parts, and
providing repair data only for outrageous ripoff prices. Electronics
repair shops have been dropping dead; they can't afford to stay in
business.

This is a formula for throw-away merchandise.

I never thought I'd face the exact same conditions in an automobile.
But that's exactly how my Ford is made. At some point, maybe not to far
down the road, a few things will need fixing which will force me to junk
the Aerostar, still essentially in good condition.

I think that we, as a society, are still suckered by slick advertising
for these vehicles (the ones that we own). When we hear that they are
hard to work on, we don't quite get just how incredibly difficult they
are to repair because everything is obstructed. And how routine
maintenance is impeded by obstructions so often. People don't seem to
grok that that amazing interior space is directly reflected in the flat
rate manual for changing their transmission fluid.....


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