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small-list-digest Wednesday, October 27 1999 Volume 03 : Number 280



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In this issue:

RE: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs
FTE Small - AW: FTE Small Fast Aerostars (was: Aerostar spark plugs)
Re: FTE Small - AW: FTE Small Fast Aerostars (was: Aerostar spark plugs)
Re: FTE Small - 4WD
FTE Small - Mechanic or Shop Needed in Atlanta area
Re: FTE Small - AW: FTE Small Fast Aerostars (was: Aerostar spark plugs)
RE: FTE Small - More power to my Ranger
[none]
Re: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs
FTE Small - Aerostar spark plugs
FTE Small - re: 2.8 performance
FTE Small - Aerostars
Re: FTE Small - Aerostars

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 07:17:03 -0600
From: "Ryan Penner"
Subject: RE: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs

Our Aerostar with the 4.0l was able to go over 85 and into that area of no
MPH all the time! The only thing that was modified about it was it had a
custom made klenex box holder. :)



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-small-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-small-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Theodore D. Mills
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 9:59 PM
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs
>
>
> At 13:00 10/25/1999 -0400, you wrote:
> >I find it difficult to believe that those vans were designed to
> travel safely
> >at such high speeds.
> >Bill
> >
> I find it difficult to believe that an unmodified Aerostar can go
> 90 MPH !!!!
>
>
> Ted
> 84 Mustang GT (in pieces)
> 85 Ranger 2WD 2.8L
> 91 F250 4X4X460
> 94 Taurus LX wagon 3.8L
>
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:41:36 +0200
From: ThomasUcen premiereworld.de
Subject: FTE Small - AW: FTE Small Fast Aerostars (was: Aerostar spark plugs)

the 3.0l takes a long time to reach those speeds, although the 3l =
should not
really be underpowered with close to 150hp. Beyond 60mph, it's no fun. =
I
heard the 4.0l is much more fun to drive but guzzles badly. What was =
your
gas mileage at such speeds?

Tom
'93 Aerostar 3.0L

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Von: Ryan Penner [mailto:rpenner54 pcisys.net]
Gesendet am: Dienstag, 26. Oktober 1999 15:17
An: small-list ford-trucks.com
Betreff: RE: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs

Our Aerostar with the 4.0l was able to go over 85 and into that area of =
no
MPH all the time! The only thing that was modified about it was it had =
a
custom made klenex box holder. :)



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-small-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-small-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Theodore D. =
Mills
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 9:59 PM
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs
>
>
> At 13:00 10/25/1999 -0400, you wrote:
> >I find it difficult to believe that those vans were designed to
> travel safely
> >at such high speeds.
> >Bill
> >
> I find it difficult to believe that an unmodified Aerostar can go
> 90 MPH !!!!
>
>
> Ted
> 84 Mustang GT (in pieces)
> 85 Ranger 2WD 2.8L
> 91 F250 4X4X460
> 94 Taurus LX wagon 3.8L
>
>
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:02:16 -0400
From: David Cooley
Subject: Re: FTE Small - AW: FTE Small Fast Aerostars (was: Aerostar spark plugs)

At 03:41 PM 10/26/1999 +0200, you wrote:
>the 3.0l takes a long time to reach those speeds, although the 3l should not
>really be underpowered with close to 150hp. Beyond 60mph, it's no fun. I
>heard the 4.0l is much more fun to drive but guzzles badly. What was your
>gas mileage at such speeds?

BUT... 150 HP to push 4200 lbs!
that's 28 lbs/hp. A poor acceleration combo.
Even a Dodge neon has 21 lbs/hp...
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 08:27:32 -0600
From: "Robert M. Hansen"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 4WD

You might want to take a look at:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.4x4 central. com

or

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.explorer4x4.com

I had the same problem with my Explorer and the 4wd. There was a tech
article about the motor that does the shifting and how it can get out of
whack. Anyway the article explains it pretty good. The motor has to be
taken apart and reset. It somehow can go past the normal stopping position.

A dealer will change the motor and hit you for about $400. Good luck!




At 09:42 PM 10/25/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Sorry, I didn't explain it very well. It is an electric shift. The
>power path is from the switch to a control module to a motor on the
>T-case. Nothing happens when I hit the switch. No shift, no indicator
>lights, no nothing. This is a fairly complicated little system for me.
>I am just looking for a trouble shooting guide to determine which part
>is bad rather that just throw alot of parts and money at it. Buck Shoff
>
>
>Clayton Nichols wrote:
>>
>> What are the symptoms? Does it click, not engage at all, or start banging?
>>
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rhansen uwyo.edu University of Wyoming
307-766-3273 ph Box 3038 University of Wyoming
307-766-2635 fax Laramie, Wy 82071

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:05:34 EDT
From: RZRick aol.com
Subject: FTE Small - Mechanic or Shop Needed in Atlanta area

I'd like to get some work performed on my 1996 Explorer, and would like some suggestions from folks on the north side of Atlanta.

I am not looking at doing anything dramatic ... suspension, exhaust, maybe a few other things. However, I would like to go to someone that is knowledgeable enough to make good suggestions on what to use. Once I improve the handling, then I might go for some major performance upgrades in the future.

Any help would be appreciated.


Thanks,


Rick Butler
Ocee, GA
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:35:43 -0700
From: "Hans Luckoff"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - AW: FTE Small Fast Aerostars (was: Aerostar spark plugs)

Can we quit talking about Aerostars now, it's just a little mini-van that's
over weight and under powered and I wouldn't be caught dead driving one.
Hans
- ----- Original Message -----
From: David Cooley
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - AW: FTE Small Fast Aerostars (was: Aerostar spark
plugs)


> At 03:41 PM 10/26/1999 +0200, you wrote:
> >the 3.0l takes a long time to reach those speeds, although the 3l should
not
> >really be underpowered with close to 150hp. Beyond 60mph, it's no fun. I
> >heard the 4.0l is much more fun to drive but guzzles badly. What was your
> >gas mileage at such speeds?
>
> BUT... 150 HP to push 4200 lbs!
> that's 28 lbs/hp. A poor acceleration combo.
> Even a Dodge neon has 21 lbs/hp...
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> Packet: N5XMT KQ4LO.#INT.NC.USA.NA T.A.P.R. Member #7068
> We are Borg... Prepare to be assimilated!
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:16:32 -0500
From: Mike Harms
Subject: RE: FTE Small - More power to my Ranger

2.9 Power tips are available at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ford ranger. com/wwwboard3.html in
Kunz Korner. For the 4x4 you are probably looking at headers and they are
not cheap as they are only available from one source for sure and maybe
another. I've heard that Clifford Performance has headers for the 4x4 2.9(
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cliffordperformance.com/main_clifford_home.htm). For sure you
can get JBA headers for the 4x4 Ranger 2.9. A 2.5" exhaust pipe isn't going
to gain you much if the exhaust manifolds are getting in the way. Electric
fans probably won't help much and from what I have heard it takes two of
them to get enough cooling.

I'd put the $200 in the bank and save up for a complete exhaust system.
There are some tips there that are low cost though. Ignition system, some
timing and some recommendations on exhaust that might help without the
headers. Check the Kunz Tips section on the website. As far as your MPG...
probably your only fix is to put your old wheels/tires back on or change the
gearing of the truck.

>Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 00:05:07 MDT
>From: "Travis Johnson"
>Subject: FTE Small - More power to my Ranger

>I have an '87 4x4 STX Ranger with a 2.9L. I was wondering what
>kind of exhaust system will sound good as well as give the best
>boost in power for about $200. A friend suggested a glasspack
>with a resonator tip, I had an estimate for a flowmaster
>muffler and 2.5"inch pipes for $130, has anybody had experience
>with systems like this, how will I get the most power? What If
>I remove the catalytic converters?

>Does anybody have any power and performance tips or tricks?
...
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:40:58 -0400
From: "Steinbrook, Steve"
Subject: [none]

I got a call today from someone in my information systems department who
said that I was receiving e-mail from Ford Trucks every 10 minutes. I
usually get one index e-mail every day that includes all the previous day's
messages. Was I switched to the other plan? If so could you switch me
back? Or do you know why this might be happening?

- -steve
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:55:26 -0500 (CDT)
From: Sandman
Subject: Re: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs

I hit the governer on our old aerostar a few times. My guess the speed
was near 100 when it hit. It was a 93 3.0L extended van.


On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Theodore D. Mills wrote:

> At 13:00 10/25/1999 -0400, you wrote:
> >I find it difficult to believe that those vans were designed to travel safely
> >at such high speeds.
> >Bill
> >
> I find it difficult to believe that an unmodified Aerostar can go 90 MPH !!!!
>
>
> Ted
> 84 Mustang GT (in pieces)
> 85 Ranger 2WD 2.8L
> 91 F250 4X4X460
> 94 Taurus LX wagon 3.8L
>
>
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:25:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Victor L Moran
Subject: FTE Small - Aerostar spark plugs

Hi List,
I'm glad to see so much aerostar talk.
I'm a college student who bought an 87 Aerostar exactly because of
its odd shape, which lends itself to traveling with a fair amount of
cargo. (read fair as a dorm room)
They have good points, my engine is at 125,000 with only the rear
main problem (leaking) and no other major defects. It's never broken down
with no warning. Problems have always been my fault (hence my membership
on this list).
Yes she can do 90mph, but I won't risk that again. And the height
of the car does making rolling a problem. For the first month that I
had her, my father would yell at me for flying through curves when I was
not really flying. It was just the height of the car that caused all the
turns to seem like I was speeding. And a couple of passengers in the
back seat have been thrown to their side when I made a U-turn (back seats
are even higher because of stiff springs that I had put on the rear for
cargo).
They are also wonderful city vans, if you know how to park a car
where you will never see the rear end. They are short, so finding a spot
won't be impossible and their height gives you the ability to see over
even all but the biggest SUV's. Its height has actually saved my butt in
two situations where I was able to avoid an accident because I could see
that another car had rear ended a car a couple of cars ahead of me. (In
NYC the pile up is not an unusual event, I saw a seven car pile up once on
top of the crest of a bridge not too long ago)

So yeah Aerostar's are not the best thing Ford ever put out, but
they aren't the worst.

Just my .02 on Aerostars,
Victor.

P.S. Thanks for all the help maintaining my Aero*.



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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:42:01 -0400
From: Dwight Varnes
Subject: FTE Small - re: 2.8 performance

Ted said:
> If I wanted an easy hot rod, I'd have bought a Chevy....
>
> Any idiot can build a Chevy, you have to know what you're doing to build a
> Ford!

You should have said "Any idiot can build a V8". All you have to do is
read a few issues of Hot Rod and order everything over the phone. No
challenge, and everyone else has already done it and got one.

Dare to be different; build a small motor that can leave those V8s in
the dust (proper weight ratio of course required).
- --
Dwight Varnes, insurance appraiser and car nut
1970 124 Spider (restored, mostly)
1986 Audi Coupe GT (bigger engine STILL at machine shop)
1989 VW Jetta GLI 16v (the wife's ride, tired but loyal)
1965 Buick Skylark conv. (unrestored, for sale, don't need no boat
anchor V8s around here)
1990 Ford Ranger 2.3 twin spark (parts runner and daily commuter)
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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 23:44:23 -0500
From: Christopher J Abele
Subject: FTE Small - Aerostars

I could have sworn that this was a list for trucks, not minivans. Though
I completely understand a few questions regarding the Aerostar since this
is also a Ford list, things have indeed gotten a bit out of hand!

Let's face it: Aerostars are ugly minivans useful for toting the kids to
school and not much more. Sure, you could take out the back seats and
have enough room to haul cargo, but if that's your main purpose in owning
a Aerostar why didn't you just plan ahead and purchase a truck??

If you want a Ford that really moves get a Mustang
If you want a Ford for hauling or towing get a F-series
If you want a Ford that can tow and carry passengers get an Explorer or
an Expidition
If you want a Ford to take the kiddies with you get an Aerostar

Christopher J. Abele
CCRC Head Coach and Moderator
1562 Archwood Lane
Toledo, OH 43614
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:15:08 -0500
From: "David A. Cooley"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Aerostars

At 11:44 PM 3/6/00 -0500, you wrote:

>If you want a Ford that really moves get a Mustang
>If you want a Ford for hauling or towing get a F-series


If you want a ford that really moves AND hauls, get a lightning!

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