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In this issue:

Re: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs
AW: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs
[none]
RE: FTE Small - Front end alignment
Re: FTE Small - Explorer Lift
Re: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs
Re: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs
Re: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs
FTE Small - Rear ABS
Re: FTE Small - Rear ABS
FTE Small - List Opportunity - Forwarded for Larry Wright, The List Owner (for now), all-minitrucks onelist.com
RE: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs
RE: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs
FTE Small - Rear ABS
Re: AW: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs
Re: FTE Small - Rear ABS
Re: FTE Small - 4WD
Re: FTE Small - Rear ABS
Re: FTE Small - ADMIN: Web site updates
Re: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs
FTE Small - Bolt on power for 2.8L V6
AW: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs
AW: AW: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs
AW: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 07:24:05 EDT
From: JIMBO01947 aol.com
Subject: Re: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs

In a message dated 10/25/99 3:17:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ThomasUcen premiereworld.de writes:


BTW: What's the rear seal?=20 >>

The rear seal is the oil seal that is pressed into the engine block and
around the rear of the crank. It simply keeps the oil from exiting the
engine crank case.

IMHO 90 MPH is not a safe speed in an unmodified Aerostar.

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:25:45 +0200
From: ThomasUcen premiereworld.de
Subject: AW: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs

What would be a modified Aerostar? I feel quite safe at that speed.

Tom Ucen
Munich, Germany
1993 Aerostar 3.0L

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IMHO 90 MPH is not a safe speed in an unmodified Aerostar.

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 06:26:01 PDT
From: "H. Lee Purvis"
Subject: [none]

>
>BTW: What's the rear seal

Tom,

That's the rear main oil seal. It seals the crankshaft. I replaced mine at
140K mainly because I had the tranny out being rebuilt so why not? I have
to agree that the 3.0L has been one of the most trouble free engines I've
had. Mines still going strong at 158K.


Lee

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 06:42:47 -0700
From: Ray Scheidnes
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Front end alignment

Hi Michael,

After 45 years, you certainly do have a lot more experience than I do!
I would hope that modern-day tires are more advanced than tires of years
gone by. I've seen a lot of ads in the magazines that I pick up regularly,
and even though I'm sure some of the ads are marketing fluff, I do believe
that some of the tire companies are in fact researching and developing
better products. BFG improved their latest version of their all terrain
tire, for example. But, improvements can only last so long, I believe, if
you don't stay after the things that can cause the tires to wear
prematurely.
I can relate to your disappointment and anger towards shops that damage your
parts and do a horrible job. They don't care. I've had to deal with that,
too. I was fortunate enough to find a tire shop, however, which actually
does care about my wheels, etc. They allow me to stand right in the shop
while they work on my truck, and they're very careful about scratches, etc.
They're a very small shop which allows them to be service-oriented. I now
avoid the Discount Tire-type shops, where I've had bad experiences.

> ----------
> From: Michael D. Sheridan[SMTP:marble psnw.com]
> Reply To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 1999 10:41 AM
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE Small - Front end alignment
>
> Ray Scheidnes wrote:
> >
> > If saving money is not a big issue, then I can see why rotating tires is
> > just a hassle and waste of time.
>
> Hi Ray:
>
> Of course you are correct and I am sure that there
> are some savings in handling tires correctly to get
> the maximum wear out of them.
>
> In my case after owning and driving cars and small
> trucks for over 45 years I guess I have just arrived
> at the point of asking questions and placing things
> on a scale of time more than anything else.
>
> Waiting around a tire shop for anything but having
> a new set of tires installed is just not in my best
> interest but I have to in order to be sure that the
> people doing the work know what they are doing and
> torque properly, dismount, remount and all that stuff
> without causing major trauma to my wheels or other
> parts as I have had done to me in the past.
>
> I guess the bottom line is that in my case I will
> go through all the hassle of being sure wheels are
> true and tires mounted correctly and installed correctly
> and torqued correctly only when I want a new set of tires
> rather than giving service people the opportunity to mess
> something up as has happened so many times in the past
> to me.
>
> On the other side of the coin I notice that the tires
> that come on new cars and trucks are much the same as
> over the 45 years I've been driving meaning that they
> are perhaps a notch above junk!
>
> A case in question was when I got a nail in one front
> tire a few months ago and it went in to the high point
> of the tread, OK? When the nail was pulled out and we
> measured exactly how far it penetrated the actual
> carcass of the tire it less than 1/64th of an inch and
> was causing a leak! Are these things today tires or
> merely a rubber band with tread on it?
>
> With the puncture factor in mind I want to get new
> tires at intervals when I still have enough tread
> left as so not to have a thumb tack leave me on
> the side of the road calling the 3As.
>
> Michael
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:09:32 EDT
From: "Joe Gill"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer Lift

Check out Super Lift. They have all kinds of good stuff for 95 and newer
trucks... Amongst them they have some explorer stuff... Also check out
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.4x4 central. com . It has lots of good forums on Explorers as well
as many good links to performance pages on 4 liter V6's.


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>Hi all...
>
>I took my wife out 4xing in my Jeep last weekend, and now she has decided
>that our '95 Eddie Bauer Explorer MUST get a lift and bigger tires so that
>she can go down some of the trails.
>
>I have heard that the most you can lift a 95 or newer is about 2" using the
>torsion bars to lift the front, and either an add-a-leaf or longer shackels
>in the rear. I feel pretty confident I can figure out how to do the
>torsion
>bar part, but the rear has popped up some questions.
>
>If I do an add-a-leaf, what do I need to order, how much, and from where?
>Also, how hard is it to install? I will admit I am a novice.
>
>Are longer shackles a good\safe idea? In the Jeep world, shackles are
>kinda
>frowned upon. Would they be okay? How do they compare to an add-a-leaf in
>terms of cost, ease of install, performance, et? And again, what should I
>be ordering? Manufactures, sizes, et?
>
>Again, I think we're only looking to do about 2" so as not to screw up
>anything underneath. And she isn't going to be doing any heavy duty
>off-roading... just enough to get down the snowmobile trails and fire roads
>at our place in Wisconsin during the summer. Also, being in Chicago
>suburbia
>I think she wants to put all the other grocery-getter Explorers to shame.
>
>Thanks!!!
>
>Tony Rio
>95 Explorer Eddie Bauer
>99 Jeep Wrangler TJ
>85 Thunderbird Elan
>80 Fairmont 2dr
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:30:34 -0700
From: "Hans Luckoff"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs

By rear seal we usualy mean the oil seal where the crankshaft comes through
the back of the engine block. a lot of times you get an oil leak there.
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Subject: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs


> Now that makes me feel much better. I am trying to do my best to keep the
> engine happy with regular fluid and filter changes. I hope that our
highway
> speeds - I travel at 80-90 mls/h - won't kill it.
> BTW: What's the rear seal?
>
> Tom Ucen
> 1993 Aerostar 3.0L
> Munich, Germany
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Tim Curran [mailto:tcurran5 gte.net]
> Gesendet am: Freitag, 22. Oktober 1999 03:49
> An: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Betreff: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs
>
> Just a tid bit I'd like to throw in about the 3.0's, they are one of the
> better
> engines I've come across when it comes to life expectancy..... we just
> junked an
> '88 Aerostar that had a 3.0 in it, it went through two sets of spark plugs
> in it's
> life, the original set and a set of Autolites, the engine was still
running
> better
> then anything after 185,000 miles, the only thing that pushed it in to
> retirement
> was it's rusted out unibody and one careless 17 year old driver. The only
> major
> problem we ever had with it was it puked the rear seal at about 125,000
> miles,
> other then that it saw both coast lines of the U.S. and Canada twice, and
> ten years
> of daily commute, I think the Iowa winters is what rusted it out though,
as
> with
> every other vehicle in this state!
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:42:40 -0700
From: "Hans Luckoff"
Subject: Re: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs

I think it is safer to drive a vehicle 90mph in a place ( Germany ) where
cars are inspected and checked regularly to make sure they are safe and
mechanically sound, then in a place ( USA ) where they let anyone with a
piece of junk no matter how safe drive 75mph. MHO Hans
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> In a message dated 10/25/99 3:17:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> ThomasUcen premiereworld.de writes:
>
>
> BTW: What's the rear seal?=20 >>
>
> The rear seal is the oil seal that is pressed into the engine block and
> around the rear of the crank. It simply keeps the oil from exiting the
> engine crank case.
>
> IMHO 90 MPH is not a safe speed in an unmodified Aerostar.
>
> Jim Humphrey
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:00:27 -0400
From: "william.hickey"
Subject: Re: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs

I find it difficult to believe that those vans were designed to travel safely
at such high speeds.
Bill





owner-small-list on 10/25/99 12:49:21 PM
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I think it is safer to drive a vehicle 90mph in a place ( Germany ) where
cars are inspected and checked regularly to make sure they are safe and
mechanically sound, then in a place ( USA ) where they let anyone with a
piece of junk no matter how safe drive 75mph. MHO Hans
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> In a message dated 10/25/99 3:17:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> ThomasUcen premiereworld.de writes:
>
>
> BTW: What's the rear seal?=20 >>
>
> The rear seal is the oil seal that is pressed into the engine block and
> around the rear of the crank. It simply keeps the oil from exiting the
> engine crank case.
>
> IMHO 90 MPH is not a safe speed in an unmodified Aerostar.
>
> Jim Humphrey
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:59:55 -0600
From: Cliff Cameron
Subject: FTE Small - Rear ABS

I just joined, so I apologize if this has already been covered. Several times recently the orange rear ABS warning
light and teh red brake warning light have come on on my 89 Bronco II. This happened when driving, NOT applying the
brakes. Braking seems unaffected and after stopping and restarting the engine, everying goes back to normal. Anyone got
any ideas?

Cliff

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:15:31 -0400
From: David Cooley
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Rear ABS

At 10:59 AM 10/25/1999 -0600, you wrote:
>I just joined, so I apologize if this has already been covered. Several
>times recently the orange rear ABS warning
>light and teh red brake warning light have come on on my 89 Bronco
>II. This happened when driving, NOT applying the
>brakes. Braking seems unaffected and after stopping and restarting the
>engine, everying goes back to normal. Anyone got
>any ideas?


Usually the rear wheel speed sensor.
Braking will seem normal until you get into a situation where the ABS would
come in to play... It won't and you'll have to manually pump/modulate
braking or you'll just lock up the rears.

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:02:08 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: FTE Small - List Opportunity - Forwarded for Larry Wright, The List Owner (for now), all-minitrucks onelist.com

Larry Wright asked me to forward this message to the FTE Small Trucks List.
He is announcing a new Email list that covers all mini trucks, regardless
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Larry Wright Wrote:
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:28:54 -0400
From: J Cope
Subject: RE: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs

You guys would KILL me if you knew how fast I used to drive my BII. I've
since slowed to 10 over the speed limit, but only since I got my new tires,
which I had to pay for myself and therefore have more respect for the cost
of replacing them.


safely
at such high speeds.>>

JC
'88 BII XLT
30x9.5 BFG A/T TA KOs
10k tow hooks
40ch CB
Removed airbox
K&N
Light bar
Headlight Stone Guards
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:55:06 -0400
From: "william.hickey"
Subject: RE: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs


safely
at such high speeds.>>

I must take this comment back ... I thought about it and I suppose 80mph isn't
all that fast .. when the highway is clear I do fire my 99 Ranger SC 4X4 up to
75 + mph ...... probably a stupid thing to do but it feels pretty stable at
those speeds ... But I'm sure I would end up killing myself if I had to dodge a
deer, small animal or dumb driver.
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:58:55 -0600
From: Cliff Cameron
Subject: FTE Small - Rear ABS

Is there an easy way to test the sensors - I ASSume one sensor on each side?

David Cooley wrote:

> Usually the rear wheel speed sensor.
> Braking will seem normal until you get into a situation where the ABS would
> come in to play... It won't and you'll have to manually pump/modulate
> braking or you'll just lock up the rears.



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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:11:15 EDT
From: JIMBO01947 aol.com
Subject: Re: AW: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs

In a message dated 10/25/99 8:37:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ThomasUcen premiereworld.de writes:

>
Changing the steering geometry for one thing. The Aerostar has a "bump
steer" problem that makes them very dangerous at high speeds. I had a 1987
3.0 Aerostar that felt pretty good at 80+ if I was on a straight flat
interstate but be in a turn and hit a dip or bump in the road and that
Aerostar was about the most unprediable vehicle I ever drove.
The other major problem is "roll center" it's much to high for any real
manuvering at high speeds. Ok ..now having explained my position about the
Aerostar being unsafe at 80 and 90 mph ....I would like to say that I think
the Aerostar is a fine vehicle (certainly not the best one Ford ever built)
but a good one. It simply wasn't designed for that kind of speed.



What feels safe and what is safe may be two different things.

Please don't take offense.
I am not preaching here.......I am just giving my opinion :-)

Jim H
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:25:05 -0500
From: "David A. Cooley"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Rear ABS

At 02:58 PM 10/25/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Is there an easy way to test the sensors - I ASSume one sensor on each side?


Not sure what exact configuration is used, but I have seen 2 kinds of
setups on fords... One with a wheel sensor on each wheel, and a later one
with a single rear sensor in the differential.
Best way I know to test is to hook an AC voltmeter to it on a 5 volt scale
and turn it (the wheels) and see if you get a reading. I have heard the
differential sensors get coated with metal filings (normal wear from the
gears) and quit working... removing them and cleaning them gets them going
again.

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:42:55 -0500
From: Buck Shoff
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 4WD

Sorry, I didn't explain it very well. It is an electric shift. The
power path is from the switch to a control module to a motor on the
T-case. Nothing happens when I hit the switch. No shift, no indicator
lights, no nothing. This is a fairly complicated little system for me.
I am just looking for a trouble shooting guide to determine which part
is bad rather that just throw alot of parts and money at it. Buck Shoff


Clayton Nichols wrote:
>
> What are the symptoms? Does it click, not engage at all, or start banging?
>
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:13:40 -0700
From: Adam McLaughlin
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Rear ABS

I found out that a brand spankin' new sensor was like $7, so I put a new one in
my 1988 BII when I replaced the rubber hoses with steel lines...

Adam

"David A. Cooley" wrote:

> At 02:58 PM 10/25/99 -0600, you wrote:
> >Is there an easy way to test the sensors - I ASSume one sensor on each side?
>
> Not sure what exact configuration is used, but I have seen 2 kinds of
> setups on fords... One with a wheel sensor on each wheel, and a later one
> with a single rear sensor in the differential.
> Best way I know to test is to hook an AC voltmeter to it on a 5 volt scale
> and turn it (the wheels) and see if you get a reading. I have heard the
> differential sensors get coated with metal filings (normal wear from the
> gears) and quit working... removing them and cleaning them gets them going
> again.
>
> ===========================================================
> David Cooley N5XMT Internet: N5XMT bellsouth.net
> Packet: N5XMT KQ4LO.#INT.NC.USA.NA T.A.P.R. Member #7068
> Sponges grow in the ocean... Wonder how deep it would be if they didn't?!
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:46:46 -0400
From: "Nate Snell"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - ADMIN: Web site updates

TAKE ME OFF THIS LIST PLEASE I HAVE NOT CHECKING MY MAIL FOR LIKE 2 DAYS AND
I COME BACK AND THERE'S OVER A HUNDERED POINTLESS MAILS ALL I WANTED WAS
INFO ON A FORD RANGER SORRY GUYS HAVE FUN.!!!
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Subject: FTE Small - ADMIN: Web site updates


> Ford Truck Enthusiasts web site updates:
>
> -Nearly every pictorial section has had at least one truck added
> to it.
> -Four articles added to tech articles section.
> -Links section updated.
> -Forum section updated.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Ken Payne
> Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
> http://www.ford-trucks.com
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:59:14 -0400
From: "Theodore D. Mills"
Subject: Re: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs

At 13:00 10/25/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>I find it difficult to believe that those vans were designed to travel safely
>at such high speeds.
>Bill
>
I find it difficult to believe that an unmodified Aerostar can go 90 MPH !!!!


Ted
84 Mustang GT (in pieces)
85 Ranger 2WD 2.8L
91 F250 4X4X460
94 Taurus LX wagon 3.8L


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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 00:27:45 -0400
From: "Theodore D. Mills"
Subject: FTE Small - Bolt on power for 2.8L V6

Here's a good one for the list....

I have an 85 Ranger 2WD with the 2.8L V6.
Since it was just rendered second string by the arrival on a 91 F250 4X4
w/460, I am considering doing a little restoration or customizing on it.

Other than the usual parking lot scars and some minor rust, the body is in
good shape.
The interior has been "lived in", but won't need too much.

I haven't decided if I'm going to slam it, or just restore it to stock
showroom condition, but one thing is for sure, it needs a little spinach.

It has a Jasper rebuilt long block with about 40K on it.
What I'm looking for are emission legal bolt on mods.
In Pennsylvania where we have to get emission testing, you can't do too
much anymore.

I know the 2.8 is not really hot rod material, but I like a challenge.

If I wanted an easy hot rod, I'd have bought a Chevy....

Any idiot can build a Chevy, you have to know what you're doing to build a
Ford!



Ted
84 Mustang GT (in pieces)
85 Ranger 2WD 2.8L
91 F250 4X4X460
94 Taurus LX wagon 3.8L


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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:10:52 +0200
From: ThomasUcen premiereworld.de
Subject: AW: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs

You'd be surprised how fast the Chrysler minivans go - top speed is =
around
130mph. However, the Euro-models are modified. They have 4-wheel disc =
brakes
and a stiffer suspension. But since the Aerostar has a limiter that =
kicks in
at about 95mph, you can't go too fast anyway.=20
When I picked up my Aerostar in port (friend of mine sent it over) and =
drove
it back home, I was surprised. The suspension is fairly stiff and the =
brakes
are not the soft kind I was used from US-cars. Therefore I feel quite =
safe
driving at 55+ speeds.=20

Tom
'93 Aerostar 3.0L
Munich, Germany

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Von: william.hickey [mailto:william.hickey bankofamerica.com]
Gesendet am: Montag, 25. Oktober 1999 19:00
An: small-list
Betreff: Re: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs

I find it difficult to believe that those vans were designed to travel
safely
at such high speeds.
Bill





owner-small-list on 10/25/99 =
12:49:21 PM
Please respond to small-list
To: small-list
cc:
Subject: Re: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs

I think it is safer to drive a vehicle 90mph in a place ( Germany ) =
where
cars are inspected and checked regularly to make sure they are safe and
mechanically sound, then in a place ( USA ) where they let anyone with =
a
piece of junk no matter how safe drive 75mph. MHO Hans
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Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs


> In a message dated 10/25/99 3:17:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> ThomasUcen premiereworld.de writes:
>
>
> BTW: What's the rear seal?=3D20 >>
>
> The rear seal is the oil seal that is pressed into the engine block =
and
> around the rear of the crank. It simply keeps the oil from exiting =
the
> engine crank case.
>
> IMHO 90 MPH is not a safe speed in an unmodified Aerostar.
>
> Jim Humphrey
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:20:39 +0200
From: ThomasUcen premiereworld.de
Subject: AW: AW: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs

You are right, when I drive on bad roads like in former east block
countries, I don't go that fast. But in western Europe, highways are =
built
for high speeds. They are in good shape and don't have tight turns. The =
ones
that have tight turns or bumps have strict speed limits anyway.
As for the roll center, do you mean it may tip? Well, I have a habit to =
exit
highway ramps pretty fast. For such a heavy and high van, it behaves
excellently in curves. Definitely much better than any VW van.
I also think that the Aerostar is a fine vehicle. It's my first Ford =
and I
do not regret I bought it. It's great for long trips and the family =
loves
it.

Tom
'93 Aerostar 3.0L
Munich, Germany

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Von: JIMBO01947 aol.com [mailto:JIMBO01947 aol.com]
Gesendet am: Dienstag, 26. Oktober 1999 01:11
An: small-list ford-trucks.com
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: FTE Small - Re: Aerostar spark plugs

In a message dated 10/25/99 8:37:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time,=20
ThomasUcen premiereworld.de writes:

>
Changing the steering geometry for one thing. The Aerostar has a "bump =

steer" problem that makes them very dangerous at high speeds. I had a =
1987=20
3.0 Aerostar that felt pretty good at 80+ if I was on a straight flat=20
interstate but be in a turn and hit a dip or bump in the road and that=20
Aerostar was about the most unprediable vehicle I ever drove.
The other major problem is "roll center" it's much to high for any real =

manuvering at high speeds. Ok ..now having explained my position about =
the=20
Aerostar being unsafe at 80 and 90 mph ....I would like to say that I =
think

the Aerostar is a fine vehicle (certainly not the best one Ford ever =
built)=20
but a good one. It simply wasn't designed for that kind of speed.



What feels safe and what is safe may be two different things. =20

Please don't take offense.
I am not preaching here.......I am just giving my opinion :-)

Jim H=20....


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