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To: small-list-digest Subject: small-list-digest V3 #274 Reply-To: small-list Sender: owner-small-list-digest Errors-To: owner-small-list-digest Precedence: bulk small-list-digest Thursday, October 21 1999 Volume 03 : Number 274 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Ranger, Explorer, Bronco 2 and Aerostar Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe small-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE Small - re: 1996 4cyl upgrades Re: FTE Small - Poll for Ranger 4x2 with 2.5l and 5spd RE: FTE Small - 94 Ford Explorer Alternator Re: FTE Small - Poll for Ranger 4x2 with 2.5l and 5spd FTE Small - FW: [JEEP-L] interesting article RE: FTE Small - FW: [JEEP-L] interesting article FTE Small - Ham Radio Re: FTE Small - Ham Radio Re: FTE Small - Ham Radio FTE Small - Aerostar spark plugs FTE Small - Bashin' FTE Small - Aerostar spark plugs FTE Small - Aerostar spark plugs AW: FTE Small - Aerostar spark plugs AW: FTE Small - Bashin' ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 06:57:51 -0400 From: Dwight Varnes Subject: FTE Small - re: 1996 4cyl upgrades > For the horsepower Ford changed the intake manifold for higher flow as well > as they also put a set of Headers on them stock from the factory. Would both these items likely be an easy upgrade to the earlier truck?? Anyone who can send images of the newer truck engine bay? Picking up my 'new' truck tonight, woohoo! - -- Dwight Varnes, insurance appraiser and car nut 1970 124 Spider (restored, mostly) 1986 Audi Coupe GT (bigger engine STILL at machine shop) 1989 VW Jetta GLI 16v (the wife's ride, tired but loyal) 1965 Buick Skylark conv. (unrestored, for sale) 1990 Ford Ranger 2.3 twin spark (coming soon) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:51:05 -0400 From: David Cooley Subject: Re: FTE Small - Poll for Ranger 4x2 with 2.5l and 5spd At 08:39 PM 10/19/1999 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Matt, > >I didn't know you were a ham? How many of there are us out here on the truck >lists? > >I am kd6poc and do mobile 20 meter CW.. I imagine that CW is hard to send at 60 on the expressway ;-) I'm N5XMT and 2m, 220 and 440 FM mobile (soon to be 6M FM when the GE Master Pro get's re-tuned!) =========================================================== David Cooley N5XMT Internet: N5XMT Packet: N5XMT We are Borg... Prepare to be assimilated! =========================================================== == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 06:53:15 -0700 From: Ray Scheidnes Subject: RE: FTE Small - 94 Ford Explorer Alternator Yeah, I recently had my slave cylinder replaced in my 94 Ranger 4x4. I was driving near home one day not long ago and it blew up as I was entering the freeway. I couldn't believe how much the repair bill was - around $800. It was then that I discovered that the cylider is located inside the bell housing, which must be removed. I thought it a good idea to replace the other gaskets and what-not since the housing was already off. My clutch lasted five and a half years with no problems, so I guess that I was fortunate and its time was up... > ---------- > From: George Kowal[SMTP:gkowal > Reply To: small-list > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 10:12 PM > To: small-list > Subject: FTE Small - 94 Ford Explorer Alternator > > New to the list here, bought my 94 4x4 Explorer about 3 years ago when > it had about 19K miles on it, now it's up to 176K miles, with almost all > original parts. > > Just changed the clutch, clutch slave cylinder ( a good idea to change > or check if you have the clutch done, since its INSIDE the tranny), > shocks, brakes and ball joints done a few weeks ago. > Almost all else is still original. > A few days ago I heard a whining noise coming off the highway, then my > battery light came on. > Changed the alternator, by the way there's a stock 95 amp version, and > an optional 130 amp version which you may have if you have more power > accessories. Mine was the 95 amp, but they are interchangeable as far as > I know. > Went for a long drive and almost didn't make it back late at night due > to constantly lowering voltage. Thought the new alternator was bad, but > got out the multimeter and found a small blue colored 15amp fuse in the > fuse box under the hood by the fender wall was blown. Replaced the fuse, > now all is fine. the owners manual lists the fuse functions. > Apparently the rear bearing in the old alternator blew and shorted the > alternator internally when it failed, causing the fuse to blow. Still > needed the new alternator after 175K miles, but just wanted to alert > others as to the alternator fuse under the hood. > Also a Ham Op here, KG2KC, earlier licensed as several other calls since > about 1967. > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:24:55 -0600 From: "Robert M. Hansen" Subject: Re: FTE Small - Poll for Ranger 4x2 with 2.5l and 5spd Hi folks, I am WS7C at 7200 feet in Wyoming. Run Kenwood TM-733A 2m/70cm rigs in a couple Explorers. I used to work RS-10. 73, Bob At 12:35 AM 10/20/99 -0500, you wrote: >de N0EGF, Diana. Ranger is a 98 XL 4X4 longbed with automatic, air, and >payload package. Currently have a Yaesu 290 2m multimode perched on the >hump, have run HF mobile with a Ten-Tec Argosy. > > 73s, > Diana > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >dianas __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ >dianas > / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ /------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Bad Brian wrote: > >> I am also a ham. i have a 30w kenwood 2m. working on code >> >> ----Original Message Follows---- >> From: Adam McLaughlin >> Reply-To: small-list >> To: small-list >> Subject: Re: FTE Small - Poll for Ranger 4x2 with 2.5l and 5spd >> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:39:16 -0700 >> >> Hi Matt, >> >> I didn't know you were a ham? How many of there are us out here on the truck >> lists? >> >> I am kd6poc and do mobile 20 meter CW.. >> >> Adam >> >> >> ______________________________________________________ >> >> == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html >> > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > Robert M. Hansen Master Tech hansen rhansen 307-766-3273 ph Box 3038 University of Wyoming 307-766-2635 fax Laramie, Wy 82071 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:10:28 -0500 From: "Tony Rio - (Chicago)" Subject: FTE Small - FW: [JEEP-L] interesting article Thought some here might be interested in this... Not sure how I feel about it or if I believe it 100% Tony 95 EB Explorer (wifes toy) 84 Thunderbird Elan (going to junkyard SOON) 80 Fairmont (wife's first car... she won't sell it) 99 Jeep Wrangler TJ (my toy) - -----Original Message----- From: Smith, Steven [mailto:smiths Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 1:59 PM To: 'jeep-l Subject: [JEEP-L] interesting article FYI.. Steve http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.4x44u.com/PhilHowell/indx0799.html - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: jeep-l-unsubscribe For additional commands, e-mail: jeep-l-help == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:33:30 -0400 From: J Cope Subject: RE: FTE Small - FW: [JEEP-L] interesting article I don't mean to be skeptical, but I've never heard of this guy and I'm seriously questioning the credibility of the information he was giving out. JC JC '88 BII XLT 30x9.5 BFG A/T TA KOs 10k tow hooks 40ch CB Removed airbox K&N Light bar Headlight Stone Guards http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://88biixlt.web.com/ - -----Original Message----- From: owner-small-list [mailto:owner-small-list (Chicago) Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 3:10 PM To: Small-List Subject: FTE Small - FW: [JEEP-L] interesting article Thought some here might be interested in this... Not sure how I feel about it or if I believe it 100% Tony 95 EB Explorer (wifes toy) 84 Thunderbird Elan (going to junkyard SOON) 80 Fairmont (wife's first car... she won't sell it) 99 Jeep Wrangler TJ (my toy) - -----Original Message----- From: Smith, Steven [mailto:smiths Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 1:59 PM To: 'jeep-l Subject: [JEEP-L] interesting article FYI.. Steve http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.4x44u.com/PhilHowell/indx0799.html - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: jeep-l-unsubscribe For additional commands, e-mail: jeep-l-help == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:43:30 -0700 From: Rick Horwitz Subject: FTE Small - Ham Radio Rick Horwitz, AB7FH 1993 Ford Explorer Icom 706 HF Icom 2800 VHF/UHF President Center for Amateur Radio Learning (W7ASC) http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.w7asc.org Editor Ford Explorer Offroad Website http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.4x4 central. com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:39:49 -0400 From: "David A. Cooley" Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ham Radio At 02:43 PM 10/20/99 -0700, you wrote: >Rick Horwitz, AB7FH > >1993 Ford Explorer > >Icom 706 HF >Icom 2800 VHF/UHF Rick, Know of any good NMO mounts that will go on the explorer rear hatch (I have a 97... Kind of wraps around on all edges) for ham antennas? I'm trying to avoid drilling a hole in my Explorer. No thru the glass either... Had one and it just plain sucked (Larsen) =========================================================== David Cooley N5XMT Internet: N5XMT Packet: N5XMT Sponges grow in the ocean... Wonder how deep it would be if they didn't?! =========================================================== == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:40:01 -0700 From: Rick Horwitz Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ham Radio David, I have a multi angle adjustable mount that I use on my hood. I believe it's made by Comet. It looks like it should work equally as well on the hatchback. It has a wide mounting point with 4 allen head screws to hold it in position. I believe it comes without an NMO or UHF mount, it's your choice which to add to it. Rick - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------- "Off the Beaten Trail" Dedicated to Ford Explorers prepared for "Serious Explorations"TM Editor Rick Horwitz mailto:explorer com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.4x4 central. com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.explorer4x4.com "Warm winds blowin' heat and blue sky, and a road that goes forever" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------- == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:09:53 -0700 From: rgstein Subject: FTE Small - Aerostar spark plugs ROlson1039 In your letter you wrote that your plugs were in themotor for about 8000 miles. A plug should last at least double that, espeially in light of the newer fuel injected motors. If anything i would have cleaned off the tips, inspected the porcelin for cracks, and regapped them before re-installing the same plugs. Yeah. The garage replaced these plugs as a matter of course. In fact, they looked very good to me, aside from the inexcusable rusting of the plug bodies: Shame on you Autolite/Allied/Signal for lousy metalurgy. I'm not a fan of re-installing plugs. "They" say, always replace the plug gasket rings when you put them back. Hah! You just go find a place that sells those compressable rings. When you go to a shop they markup the cost on the parts they install so when they installed a set of plugs i am sure that you paid at least ten dollars more for them than if you had gone to the auto parts store and installed them yourself. I would have. But I was so exhausted from changing the distributor cap that I farmed out the rest of the work. Of course, in any other cars I've owned, this would have been an easy half-hour job, at most. Richard == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:34:01 -0700 From: rgstein Subject: FTE Small - Bashin' "Ucen, Thomas, PRE" wrote-------------------------- Subject: AW: FTE Small - Bashin' Loud exhausts are fun at a racetrack but not in a residential neighborhood. My Aerostar had a huge hole in the muffler a few months ago. I felt rather embarassed driving around making such a noise. Me ----------------------------------------------- Yeah, but were "you be like damn that Aerostar is lifted?" Richard (with the yuppie ass) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:02:37 -0700 From: rgstein Subject: FTE Small - Aerostar spark plugs "Ucen, Thomas, PRE" wrote -------------------------------------------- >At 30,000 mls I installed Motorcraft platinum plugs into my '93 = Aerostar 3.0L. The car ran great until someone told me to take them out. Well, despite Ford claiming otherwise, I'd be nervous leaving any plugs in the engine that long. But maybe that's just me. > They = were not made for this sort of engine and could damage it, the spark is too strong and blabla... Oh? How do you know this? Spark too strong is a lot of BS. A spark is a spark. It ignites the gas/air mixture or it doesn't: period. Is that true? Can platinum plugs damage my engine? I installed regular = Bosch plugs and the car also runs great. It runs great because they are new. Platinum, shplatinum. What matters is the heat rating of the plug, as another poster replied to you here. The heat rating must be appropriate for your specific engine, and sometimes should be varied one heat grade for unusual driving conditions. Also, as was posted, the "reach" of the side electrode will bust a piston if it is too long. Every plug mfr lists their correct plug for your motor, and you can trust this info. >Changing the plugs on the Aerostar is the worst job I ever had to do. Yup. Aerostars are legendary for the misery of this job. Other famous Aerostar miseries are associated with replacing the heater core and the well-known agonies of replacing the 3.0's head gaskets: these experiences lie ahead along your road of life. That A4LD automatic transmission is a famous failure, too (some days, I want to meet the CEO of Ford in a dark alley...). Back to the spark plugs, I mentioned that I wasn't impressed with the metalurgy of the Autolites I just had removed. The bodies of three of them were rusted: this sucks! I expect better. Typical platinum plugs give you a thin platinum center electrode. While the electrode lasts a lot longer because it is platinum, it would last better yet if the electrode were thicker. These same plugs use ordinary metal for their ground electrodes, which wear at a customary rate. So they may be better than "regular" plugs, but many people think that they don't give such teriffic wear. The best platinum plugs use platinum for both the center and the ground electrodes. Now, I could get behind this. But, not if the damn body got rusty. This is just plain manufacturer stupidity. The car mfrs think that their making their machines so damn hard to work on is justified by their use of parts, lubricants, and assemblies that last a very long time. Hah! Over the years, I've had good luck with NGK and Nippon Denso. Bosch and the American brands have been lackluster performers. I became a fan of the ordinary ND plugs. In fact, I'd expect the ordinary grade (U-Groove) ND plug to at least equal the longevity of anyone else's platinum plug. Nippon Denso is a subsidiary of Toyota. If I remember right, they even install and come out easier due to accurate thread machining and metalurgy. It seemed to me that the NGK quality went down a tad when they began making them in Brazil, and when they made them in the US, the quality was visibly inferior to their Japanese product, and I switched to ND, which I really could have left in my Toyota motor for a very long time. NGK claimed to self-adjust to the driving requirements, covering a wide thermal range within each plug number. Hey, how about more comments from other peoples' experience? Richard == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:33:00 -0700 From: rgstein Subject: FTE Small - Aerostar spark plugs "H. Lee Purvis" wrote ------------------------------------------ Richard, I'm not sure what to think of the discoloration. I've always used the run of the mill Autolite's in my '88 3.0 (and my '71 Bronco 170). Never had a problem with them. No. This wasn't discoloration. The plug is the cheaper of the Autolite's two platinum models. It has a black steel body, probably for marketing reasons -- to look "sexy." I'd bet that the ordinary non-platinum Autolites use a traditional stainless material, which wouldn't have rusted on me. These plugs carry a 3-year warranty now, but the more expensive ones with platinum side electrodes, too, have a longer warranty and a more realistic body material. I'm curious as to why you had a plug wire burn through. Any ideas as to why that happened? I've used the Autolite wires as well with no problems. These are ordinary resistance "wire." These have a string core rubbed down with graphite, providing a resistance path for the high voltage. This fragile construction is the reason why it is important to never yank on these "wires." Stretching them causes the resistance to go way up in the stretched area. This increased resistance causes the electricity to look for a more agreeable path to get where it wants to go: ground. My wires got oily from an external oil leak. Oily wires hold dirt: a conductive mess. If one of these wires touches ground (say, the valve cover), and somebody (sloppy mechanic) yanked on a nearby stretch of the wire, the electricity jumps through the insulation and zaps itself to the valve cover, bypassing the rest of the wire and the spark plug gap. Thus, your engine misses and you get a hole burned in the wire. You should see this wire: the area around the hole is black and brittle from the heat. The cause of my engine's missing was this wire, and probably high resistance in the entire wire set (this does happen over time). Also consider that high wire resistance coupled with typical modern wide plug spark gaps will cause arcing and rapid wear in the distributor cap/rotor, which was the case for me, too. The shop I took the Aerostar to used what appears to be a very nice retail-packaged wire set (sorry, I don't have the specifics handy). This set uses a spiral stainless conductor, and some kind of neat advanced snap-on/off connectors. They are lifetime waranteed, so I'd expect the workmanship to be good, too. And note very well: the thing that makes many "premium" aftermarket wires fail is the ratty attachment of the terminals to the wires: the product of a manufacturer who won't pay the workers for the extra 1/2 minute per terminal to do it right. You'd think that with them all running to third world assemblers that they'd get enough profit to shell out for this at that .26 per hour that they're paying. Hah! Did I explain this clearly enough? Richard == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 09:54:33 +0200 From: ThomasUcen Subject: AW: FTE Small - Aerostar spark plugs - -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: rgstein Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 1999 08:03 An: Ford Truck List Betreff: FTE Small - Aerostar spark plugs "Ucen, Thomas, PRE" wrote -------------------------------------------- >At 30,000 mls I installed Motorcraft platinum plugs into my '93 =3D Aerostar 3.0L. The car ran great until someone told me to take them out. Well, despite Ford claiming otherwise, I'd be nervous leaving any plugs in the engine that long. But maybe that's just me. When do you change yours? Every 20,000 mls or even less? > They =3D were not made for this sort of engine and could damage it, the spark is too strong and blabla... Oh? How do you know this? Spark too strong is a lot of BS. A spark is a spark. It ignites the gas/air mixture or it doesn't: period. I didn't know this. A shop I had the Aerostar in due to an emmissions problem (MAF) told me this. I also thought this might be crap but I'm = not a trained mechanic and better save than sorry..... Is that true? Can platinum plugs damage my engine? I installed regular = =3D Bosch plugs and the car also runs great. It runs great because they are new. Platinum, shplatinum. What = matters is the heat rating of the plug, as another poster replied to you here.=20 The heat rating must be appropriate for your specific engine, and sometimes should be varied one heat grade for unusual driving conditions. Also, as was posted, the "reach" of the side electrode = will bust a piston if it is too long. Every plug mfr lists their correct plug for your motor, and you can trust this info. They are now about 20,000 mls "old" and still run great. The Bosch = plugs I bought were (according to the list) the correct ones for the 3.0 >Changing the plugs on the Aerostar is the worst job I ever had to do. Yup. Aerostars are legendary for the misery of this job. Other famous Aerostar miseries are associated with replacing the heater core and the well-known agonies of replacing the 3.0's head gaskets: these experiences lie ahead along your road of life. That A4LD automatic transmission is a famous failure, too (some days, I want to meet the = CEO of Ford in a dark alley...). Ouch. Is there an easy way to pull out the engine? Buying a US-car in Germany is always something exotic and therefore expensive when repairs = come up. But then the Aerostar was the only van that would my demands. It's = my first Ford and I love it! Richard =3D=3D FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info = http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 09:58:41 +0200 From: ThomasUcen Subject: AW: FTE Small - Bashin' Yeah, all the chicks were looking.....and thinking: "who's the moron = with the broken muffler?" Tom '93 Aerostar long, not high, 3.0L - -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: rgstein To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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