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small-list-digest Monday, October 18 1999 Volume 03 : Number 271



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Small - Aerostar Sparkplugs
FTE Small - Aerostar Sparkplugs
Re: FTE Small - Aerostar Sparkplugs
FTE Small - Exhaust manifolds...
FTE Small - Paint peeling on 94 Explorer mirrors
FTE Small - Antisocial Behavior
FTE Small - Bashin'
Re: FTE Small - Antisocial Behavior
Re: FTE Small - Bashin'
Re: FTE Small - Bashin'
FTE Small - Re: Making an Explorer FAST
AW: FTE Small - Aerostar Sparkplugs

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 08:00:35 EDT
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Aerostar Sparkplugs

I tend to agree with the points you made in your posting.
My Ford truck is brand new and therefore i have not had to tend to changing
the spark plugs. My previous truck was an 89 F 250, and that had the plugs
changed many times over the course of its life. Over the years Ive tried
almost every plug known to mankind, although being a cheapskate, I cannot
bring myself to spend the money for these newfangled plugs that go for in
excess of $3 each..
The old Ford ran great with AC delco plugs or champions, and thats what i
generally bought. Occasionally i would get the Motorcraft plugs, but that
was a last resort.
In your letter you wrote that your plugs were in themotor for about 8000
miles. A plug should last at least double that, espeially in light of the
newer fuel injected motors. If anything i would have cleaned off the tips,
inspected the porcelin for cracks, and regapped them before re-installing
the same plugs. When you go to a shop they markup the cost on the parts they
install so when they installed a set of plugs i am sure that you paid at
least ten dollars more for them than if you had gone to the auto parts store
and installed them yourself.
LOL i can relate to your feelings regarding the location of the plugs, cap
and rotor.. my wife has a Chrysler minivan with the 3.3 and thats another
vehicle you need to be a contortionist to get to the three rear plugs. ( and
for theheck of it that truck is working on its second set of plugs,
champions, and its original wires with 38K on it)
take care
Bob
ROlson1039 aol.com
99 Ranger 2wd
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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 08:09:18 PDT
From: "H. Lee Purvis"
Subject: FTE Small - Aerostar Sparkplugs

Richard,

I'm not sure what to think of the discoloration. I've always used the run
of the mill Autolite's in my '88 3.0 (and my '71 Bronco 170). Never had a
problem with them. The motor leaks some oil (like any good Ford) but the
plugs come out dry every time. I'm curious as to why you had a plug wire
burn through. Any ideas as to why that happened? I've used the Autolite
wires as well with no problems.

Lee

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What do you think?
What kinds of plugs do y'all like for these motors?

Richard


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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 11:21:15 -0400
From: David Cooley
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Aerostar Sparkplugs

"H. Lee Purvis" wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
> I'm not sure what to think of the discoloration. I've always used the run
> of the mill Autolite's in my '88 3.0 (and my '71 Bronco 170). Never had a
> problem with them. The motor leaks some oil (like any good Ford) but the
> plugs come out dry every time. I'm curious as to why you had a plug wire
> burn through. Any ideas as to why that happened? I've used the Autolite
> wires as well with no problems.

The plugs on my 97 Explorer V8 came out with the metal base (the outside
the cylinder part of it) blue looking from excess heat... The also had
small spots of rust, but they were the factory installed plugs that were
3 years old and 40,000 miles old. AC plugs that I had poulled in the
past from a turbocharged V6 occasionally looked blued, but only after
extended highway driving... I assume it was from the leaner
mixture/higher combustion temps at cruise.

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 11:24:03 -0400
From: David Cooley
Subject: FTE Small - Exhaust manifolds...

Anyone else have a V8 explorer with a cracked passenger side exhaust
manifold?
Local dealer claims they all do it and it's not worth fixing, as it will
crack again within 20K miles.
I priced the manifold... $360.00 from the dealer, none available
aftermarket.
Ford Motorsport headers for the explorer with ceramic coating are only
$325 for the pair, won't crack, and are also worth 15-20HP on the stock
motor... Guess I know what I'm buying!
Later,
Dave

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:58:16 -0500
From: Kevin Bice
Subject: FTE Small - Paint peeling on 94 Explorer mirrors

I have a 94 Explorer sport, and the paint is peeling on the
passenger&driver side mirrors.
I have thought about sanding and spray painting, but am unsure how it
will turn out. I have very limited
experience in the painting arena. I contacted my local dealer about
replacement mirrors, but they
come with a price tag of $195.00 each. I was interested in knowing if
any of you have this problem and
have found a fix? Taking it to a body shop maybe the answer, or just
learning to live with the peeling paint
is another possiblity.

Kevin
92 Ranger
94 Explorer Sport 4x4

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 13:37:59 -0700
From: rgstein pacbell.net
Subject: FTE Small - Antisocial Behavior

From: "Joe Gill"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - "I want More Noise"
"Damn dude sorry but there are more of us out there who want noise."

More of who?

"I want to be able to pull up next to your
yuppie ass and have you be like damn that Explorer is lifted and god
that
exahust is loud."

I understand that you want me to "be like damn that Explorer is lifted."
(Perhaps you can explain how I, too, can like 'damn lift" my Aerostar.
I might enjoy my 'damn lifted' Aerostar.)

However, since you seem to take pleasure in making other people
miserable, my "yuppie ass" wishes to inform you that in my county here
in California, this is what would happen when you went"vroom vroom"
around here with your straight pipes:

Since Disturbing the Peace (defined as noise that bothers anyone in
their own home) is a misdemeanor, upon the third complaint, you would be
making the rounds of the bail bondsmen via pay phone from inside the
Martinez tank and wondering if you could scrounge up enough cash to pay
the fine (no checks).

So, go ahead and "pull up next to your yuppie ass" with your straight
pipes. I'll warm up the Sheriff so he'll expect you with a hearty
Contra Costa County welcome. Would you like hot dogs with your beans?
Hey, "We'll leave the light on for you."

"Vroom, Vroom," Joe

Richard

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:43:52 -0700
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE Small - Bashin'

>Wait a second, isn't an explorer a soccer mom's, shopping mall >cruisin', yuppie mobile anyway? ;-)

Ours never see off road duty,guy down the street has one set up for off
roading.Depends on what you want to do with it.Very versatile vehicle
If I wanted my Explorer to be bashed,I would have signed up for a bl*zer
list tho.....

Regarding the noise thing,I have a neighbor with a very radical and loud
chev*lle,another with a l*v with a loud blown out exhaust.
The ch*velle owner cruises by at 25 as quiet as he can ,the idiot in the
l*v races by as fast as he can.Which one do you think pi**es me off.
Comes down to maturity,courtesy and respect of others.
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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 17:56:05 -0400
From: "Stephen Bozzone"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Antisocial Behavior

I think the problem is that he wants a person other than him to think "wow,
that's a souped up explorer". You should modify your car based on your
needs and wants, not what the kid next to you at the stop light is thinking

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Subject: FTE Small - Antisocial Behavior


>From: "Joe Gill"
>Subject: Re: FTE Small - "I want More Noise"
>"Damn dude sorry but there are more of us out there who want noise."
>
>More of who?
>
>"I want to be able to pull up next to your
>yuppie ass and have you be like damn that Explorer is lifted and god
>that
>exahust is loud."
>
>I understand that you want me to "be like damn that Explorer is lifted."
>(Perhaps you can explain how I, too, can like 'damn lift" my Aerostar.
>I might enjoy my 'damn lifted' Aerostar.)
>
>However, since you seem to take pleasure in making other people
>miserable, my "yuppie ass" wishes to inform you that in my county here
>in California, this is what would happen when you went"vroom vroom"
>around here with your straight pipes:
>
>Since Disturbing the Peace (defined as noise that bothers anyone in
>their own home) is a misdemeanor, upon the third complaint, you would be
>making the rounds of the bail bondsmen via pay phone from inside the
>Martinez tank and wondering if you could scrounge up enough cash to pay
>the fine (no checks).
>
>So, go ahead and "pull up next to your yuppie ass" with your straight
>pipes. I'll warm up the Sheriff so he'll expect you with a hearty
>Contra Costa County welcome. Would you like hot dogs with your beans?
>Hey, "We'll leave the light on for you."
>
>"Vroom, Vroom," Joe
>
>Richard
>
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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:01:39 -0700
From: Adam McLaughlin
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Bashin'

Kidding aside,

Yeah, I know. My Bronco II for some reason (which I have never been able to track down) is the loudest
fuel injected mother than you will ever hear. The headers are good, and the exhaust is fine... I got it
that way and I didn't do much to soup it up. But it's so loud that when I come home late at night while
going down the suburbian street into the housing I get out and push while the motor idles so as not to
make the neighbors irate... When I leave late at night I'll put it into nuetral and go down the street
past the houses before I hit the starter.. Just some common courtesy to the people whom I share my
planet with. Not everyone appreciates the sound of a flowmaster series 50 and 2.5" pipes near midnight
or close to dawn.

Adam



"J.S.H." wrote:

> >Wait a second, isn't an explorer a soccer mom's, shopping mall >cruisin', yuppie mobile anyway? ;-)
>
> Ours never see off road duty,guy down the street has one set up for off
> roading.Depends on what you want to do with it.Very versatile vehicle
> If I wanted my Explorer to be bashed,I would have signed up for a bl*zer
> list tho.....
>
> Regarding the noise thing,I have a neighbor with a very radical and loud
> chev*lle,another with a l*v with a loud blown out exhaust.
> The ch*velle owner cruises by at 25 as quiet as he can ,the idiot in the
> l*v races by as fast as he can.Which one do you think pi**es me off.
> Comes down to maturity,courtesy and respect of others.
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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:29:04 EDT
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Bashin'

LOL adam and then when ya get to the corner do ya lay like fifty feet of
rubber ??? LOL with my neighbors I sure would
Bob
ROlson1039 aol.com
99Ranger 2wd 4 cyl ( cant get out of its own way)
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 00:23:40 -0500
From: Christopher J Abele
Subject: FTE Small - Re: Making an Explorer FAST

Hey. . . with all the talk of Explorer's sounding fast I was wondering if
anyone can help me out. . .

What can be done to the engine of a pre 94 explorer to add a little
"pep?" I really DON'T want the "my car is louder than yours" effect, but
at the same time want a bit more speed. Underdrive pulleys? K&N Air
Filter? (I plan to make a cold-air induction rather than simply a K&N,
but we'll see when I finally have my truck how it works out!)

Can the Explorer be tricked enough in terms of engine (without adjusting
the noise level) to beat out a Mustang with a 3.8 V6, or is this a
complete impossibility? With four on the floor is there any chance in
hell I'd be able to dust my little brother's Mustang?

Christopher J. Abele
CCRC Head Coach and Moderator
1562 Archwood Lane
Toledo, OH 43614
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:38:01 +0200
From: "Ucen, Thomas, PRE"
Subject: AW: FTE Small - Aerostar Sparkplugs

At 30,000 mls I installed Motorcraft platinum plugs into my '93 =
Aerostar
3.0L. The car ran great until someone told me to take them out. They =
were
not made for this sort of engine and could damage it, the spark is too
strong and blabla...
Is that true? Can platinum plugs damage my engine? I installed regular =
Bosch
plugs and the car also runs great. What do you guys recommend I should =
use?
Changing the plugs on the Aerostar is the worst job I ever had to do. =
Even
the beetle's plugs were easier to change.

Tom
'93 Aerostar Ext. 3.0L

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Von: rgstein pacbell.net [mailto:rgstein pacbell.net]
Gesendet am: Sonntag, 17. Oktober 1999 09:47
An: Ford Truck List
Betreff: FTE Small - Aerostar Sparkplugs

A question for you people with 3.0s and in general.

With my engine missing badly, I took my '92 Aerostar 3.0 into the shop,
where I was sold a set of wires (that I needed) and a set of plugs =
(that
I didn't). After having done the contortionist routine to replace my
cap & rotor, I was aching too badly to attempt any more ignition work,
so took it in. I got the car back a few hours later, and it runs =
great.

Now, about a year and 8,000 miles ago, I had a set of Autolite Platinum
(the "ordinary" grade) installed. This time, I asked for my old parts
back. One of my Autolite ignition wires was burned to a crisp about
halfway through. OK: cause for missing.

The old plugs tips, however, look outstanding: white-tan, gaps right on
spec, a tiny amount of black fluff on the threaded ends. I conclude
that these plugs are, in fact, in great condition and didn't need
replacement. =20

One curiosity though: three of the plug bodies are quite rusty, and =
have
a basic black gun-metal appearance. My brain says that this is simply
the wrong metal for a plug. Yeah, it looks sexy when new, but honestly,
I've never had Japanese plugs in the past that went rusty on the =
outside
like this. This looks like trouble to me: I have visions of rust =
seizing
and rust particles working onto the insulator, causing the spark to
ground out. Oh, the shop put in the exact same Autolite numbers that
they took out.

I read someplace a while back that the basic Autolite Platinum was a
junky plug, but that their newer, tonier, "Platinum Pro" (which I note....


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