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In this issue:

FTE Small - 4x4 sport appearance
FTE Small - RE: 91 Explorer anti-freeze smell
Re: FTE Small - Please take me off list
RE: FTE Small - 83 Ranger broken timing belt
FTE Small - 88 Bronco II- Running Rich
RE: FTE Small - 88 bii overheating update
RE: FTE Small - 83 Ranger broken timing belt
FTE Small - To tailgate or not to tailgate
RE: FTE Small - 88 Bronco II- Running Rich
Re: FTE Small - 4x4 sport appearance
Re: FTE Small - To tailgate or not to tailgate
Re: FTE Small - To tailgate or not to tailgate
Re: FTE Small - RE: 91 Explorer anti-freeze smell

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 05:32:18 PDT
From: "John Smith"
Subject: FTE Small - 4x4 sport appearance

I was looking to buy 2000 Ranger and have been
looking here for info for the past 3 months.
My local dealer ordered one to my specs (as he was
putting together his first order, no obligation to
buy he said). It was built during the second week
of August and was received this week.
Its a 4x4 XLT Toreador Red. Very nice looking.
Major difference with 99, fog lamps incl and better
looking wheels( my opinion).
Before ordering I thought it would look nice with
Sports Appearance (color keyed grille,bumpers and
wheellip mouldings). Althought not available
because of colour , my dealer said he could
probably have it done by ordering parts and having
them painted by their body shop.
Now that I have seen it , I am not as convinced I
should have it done since I have not seen many 4x4
with sports appearance.
Finally my question:
Does anyone have a 4x4 sports appearance from
factory or customized and could I see pictures?
Sorry for the lenght of message.

JC




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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:55:11 +0300
From: Bolte Brent
Subject: FTE Small - RE: 91 Explorer anti-freeze smell

Note: subject was FTE Small - 88 bii overheating update

Ken,
On the early Explorers ( 1991-1992 ) you should take
a close look at the radiator. The early Explorers had a nasty
problem with anti-freeze leaking from the radiator where the
end caps are connected to the core. The Explorer radiators
are made of an aluminum center core with ABS plastic end
caps. The end caps are crimped on to the center core with
some type of a seal in between the two. What usually happens
is that the seal between the center core and the end caps gets
weak and starts to leak. The actual leak normally occurs when
the engine is cooling down because the center aluminum core
and the plastic end caps contract at different rates and since
there is still pressure in the cooling system from the engine
running, any weak spot in the seals will allow anti-freeze to
leak out. The smell however usually occurs shortly after startup
since the radiator once again gets hot and "burns" off the anti-
freeze residue. After running the Explorer for a while, making
sure the engine gets up to full operating temperature, shut it off
and let it sit for an hour. Once its cooled off a bit, check the
bottom of the radiator and all around the end caps where they
are crimped tight to the center core for any signs of anti-freeze.
This may be where your leak is coming from. The only real
fix for this is to replace the radiator, the stop leak products
won't fix this because the uneven expansion and contraction
of the end caps and the center core will keep breaking any
seal the stop leak products try to make. Supposedly the newer
radiators have a different seal system in them and are much
less prone to this problem.


On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Kenneth St.John

> I have a '91 Explorer that has the smell of anti-freeze
> only at startup, also. Does this mean it's only a head
> gasket problem? I don't have any....


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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:50:54 -0700
From: "Alan Wilson"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Please take me off list

Take YOURSELF off. Read the message below.

WCirbus aol.com wrote:

> Please take me off list. I don't want anymore small list. Thank you RLCirbus

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:54:50 -0500
From: Mike Harms
Subject: RE: FTE Small - 83 Ranger broken timing belt

What you should do is call your local dealer's repair shop and ask them if
your year and model truck has an "interference engine" design. If yours
does, there is a chance a valve or piston has been damaged. If not, then
don't worry about it.

I couldn't find much on the web that discusses it, but this site had some
makes and models with interference engines:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.auto-truck.com/library/belts/belts1.asp


>Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:31:28 PDT
>From: "Joey Ramsey"
>Subject: FTE Small - 83 Ranger broken timing belt

>Hey,
> I broke my timing belt going down the road the other day, and was
wodering
>if theres enough clearance in an 83 2.3 liter to were the pistons wouldnt
>hit the valves.
...
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:39:42 PDT
From: "Wayne Signs"
Subject: FTE Small - 88 Bronco II- Running Rich

My Bronco II seems to be running rich. You can smell the gas in the
exhaust. I have a new Distributor, Cap, Rotor, Wires, Plugs and Fuel Pump.
The truck runs great except for this.
Any Ideas?
It has a Fuel Injected 2.9 Litre and I get about 19/mpg. Is this about
right?



>From: Mike Harms
>Reply-To: small-list ford-trucks.com
>To: "'small-list ford-trucks.com'"
>Subject: RE: FTE Small - 83 Ranger broken timing belt
>Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:54:50 -0500
>
>What you should do is call your local dealer's repair shop and ask them if
>your year and model truck has an "interference engine" design. If yours
>does, there is a chance a valve or piston has been damaged. If not, then
>don't worry about it.
>
>I couldn't find much on the web that discusses it, but this site had some
>makes and models with interference engines:
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.auto-truck.com/library/belts/belts1.asp
>
>
> >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:31:28 PDT
> >From: "Joey Ramsey"
> >Subject: FTE Small - 83 Ranger broken timing belt
>
> >Hey,
> > I broke my timing belt going down the road the other day, and was
>wodering
> >if theres enough clearance in an 83 2.3 liter to were the pistons wouldnt
> >hit the valves.
>...
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:53:21 -0500
From: "Campbell, Carl "
Subject: RE: FTE Small - 88 bii overheating update

My 88 BII was blowing white smoke intermittently at startup a couple of
years ago. I found that it was sucking automatic trans fluid through a blown
vacuum modulator. Is yours an automatic? If so, check your fluid level.

> ----------
> From: Mike Harms[SMTP:MikeH bechamp.com]
> Reply To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 2:42 PM
> To: 'small-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: RE: FTE Small - 88 bii overheating update
>
> White smoke is from water. Blueish gray smoke or black smoke is from oil.
>
>
> I wouldn't worry about it if it just happens at startup. Could just be
> the
> condensation vaporizing. Just keep your eye on your Anti-freeze level to
> make sure it isn't dropping. It could be a crack in the head, or a
> weeping
> head gasket that when it warms up closes and thus only leaks when it's
> cold.
>
> >Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 22:25:08 -0400
> >From: "Stephen Bozzone"
> >Subject: Re: FTE Small - 88 bii overheating update
> ...
> >The mechanic scared me with talk of a possible blown head gasket. He
> said
> >white smoke may be a precursor. I do have white smoke from the exhaust..
> >but only at startup, and after that it doesn't appear again. Sounds like
> my
> >good 'ol 2.9 burnin' oil. (I hope!!)
> ...
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:56:20 PDT
From: "Joey Ramsey"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - 83 Ranger broken timing belt

Hey,
I ran a compression test after I put the new belt in, and all cylinders
were well over 100.
-Thanx for the help,
Joe

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:06:59 -0800
From: "Alex Cline"
Subject: FTE Small - To tailgate or not to tailgate

To all who shall see these presents greetings,
I am on my second full size truck the first was an '86 F-150 4x4 with a =
fuel injected 302, my current truck is a '79 F-250 Supercab with a 460 =
and both of these trucks benefitted greatly from running around with the =
tailgate down or off. I also drove a 92 Ranger for about 5 months for my =
job and put on about 350 miles a night. If I drove with the gate up I =
had to stop for gas during the night if I had it down I would top off in =
the morning for the next driver.
Alex
79 F-250 Supercab

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:08:01 -0500
From: "Campbell, Carl "
Subject: RE: FTE Small - 88 Bronco II- Running Rich

It could possibly be the O2 sensor. I barely passed emissions testing last
year and my 88 BII ran sluggish. This Summer I replaced the O2 sensor
after reading Kunz's 2.9L tip of the week
(http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ford ranger. com/totw.hmtl). It was as if I was driving a new
vehicle. Very responsive trottle and my emissions numbers were better than
five years ago. According to Kunz, these sensors should be be replaced at
about 70K. Mine had 170k!

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> From: Wayne Signs[SMTP:wsigns3 hotmail.com]
> Reply To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 2:39 PM
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE Small - 88 Bronco II- Running Rich
>
> My Bronco II seems to be running rich. You can smell the gas in the
> exhaust. I have a new Distributor, Cap, Rotor, Wires, Plugs and Fuel
> Pump.
> The truck runs great except for this.
> Any Ideas?
> It has a Fuel Injected 2.9 Litre and I get about 19/mpg. Is this about
> right?
>
>
>
> >From: Mike Harms
> >Reply-To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> >To: "'small-list ford-trucks.com'"
> >Subject: RE: FTE Small - 83 Ranger broken timing belt
> >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:54:50 -0500
> >
> >What you should do is call your local dealer's repair shop and ask them
> if
> >your year and model truck has an "interference engine" design. If yours
> >does, there is a chance a valve or piston has been damaged. If not, then
> >don't worry about it.
> >
> >I couldn't find much on the web that discusses it, but this site had some
> >makes and models with interference engines:
> >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.auto-truck.com/library/belts/belts1.asp
> >
> >
> > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:31:28 PDT
> > >From: "Joey Ramsey"
> > >Subject: FTE Small - 83 Ranger broken timing belt
> >
> > >Hey,
> > > I broke my timing belt going down the road the other day, and was
> >wodering
> > >if theres enough clearance in an 83 2.3 liter to were the pistons
> wouldnt
> > >hit the valves.
> >...
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:55:59 EDT
From: Bakend aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 4x4 sport appearance

In a message dated 9/16/99 6:39:38 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
privatejc hotmail.com writes:

> was looking to buy 2000 Ranger and have been
> looking here for info for the past 3 months.
> My local dealer ordered one to my specs (as he was
> putting together his first order, no obligation to
> b
I also have been looking at the 2000 Rangers and personaly like the XLT
package with chrome better than the painted. Cost is a factor for me though.
The Ranger sport comes with the painted grill and etc. How much are you
paying and where are you located? Here in Denver they seem to be getting
around 20K or more.
Dennis Baken
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:00:06 -0500
From: "John Becker"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - To tailgate or not to tailgate

So whats the difference between "stopping for gas"
and " topping off" ? one gallon?


- -----Original Message-----
From: Alex Cline
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, September 16, 1999 15:09
Subject: FTE Small - To tailgate or not to tailgate


To all who shall see these presents greetings,
I am on my second full size truck the first was an '86 F-150 4x4 with a fuel injected 302, my current truck is a '79 F-250 Supercab
with a 460 and both of these trucks benefitted greatly from running around with the tailgate down or off. I also drove a 92 Ranger
for about 5 months for my job and put on about 350 miles a night. If I drove with the gate up I had to stop for gas during the night
if I had it down I would top off in the morning for the next driver.
Alex
79 F-250 Supercab

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:40:48 -0400
From: Christopher J Abele
Subject: Re: FTE Small - To tailgate or not to tailgate

This one seems simple enough, and I don't even have a truck yet!

If he is driving the same distance and filling up less it means he is
getting better gas mileage. Though he still has to "top it off" he is
spending LESS money on gas.

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:00:06 -0500 "John Becker"
writes:
>So whats the difference between "stopping for gas"
>and " topping off" ? one gallon?

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:03:51 -0700
From: "Kenneth St.John"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - RE: 91 Explorer anti-freeze smell

I forgot to mention that it's a new radiator. Yet, it acts just like my old
one. In fact, when I brought the truck down to the mechanic to replace my
valve cover gaskets, he too could smell the radiator fluid. He thought I
might have a cracked head so he put some type of additive to the radiator
coolant then had a special light at the exhaust. He said it was fine and
that it was a false alarm but couldn't explain the smell.
I'll do as you suggest but I'm not sure what area your talking about on the
radiator. You stated where the end caps are connected to the core.
Also, I've looked numerous times for any types of leaks and didn't find any
so what your talking about is the coolant leaking then evaporating on the
core???
I'll do some searching to see what I can find.

Thanks for your help with this.
Ken
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From: Bolte Brent
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Cc: ken integrityonline3.com
Date: Thursday, September 16, 1999 6:12 AM
Subject: FTE Small - RE: 91 Explorer anti-freeze smell


>Note: subject was FTE Small - 88 bii overheating update
>
>Ken,
> On the early Explorers ( 1991-1992 ) you should take
>a close look at the radiator. The early Explorers had a nasty
>problem with anti-freeze leaking from the radiator where the
>end caps are connected to the core. The Explorer radiators
>are made of an aluminum center core with ABS plastic end
>caps. The end caps are crimped on to the center core with
>some type of a seal in between the two. What usually happens
>is that the seal between the center core and the end caps gets
>weak and starts to leak. The actual leak normally occurs when
>the engine is cooling down because the center aluminum core
>and the plastic end caps contract at different rates and since
>there is still pressure in the cooling system from the engine
>running, any weak spot in the seals will allow anti-freeze to
>leak out. The smell however usually occurs shortly after startup
>since the radiator once again gets hot and "burns" off the anti-
>freeze residue. After running the Explorer for a while, making
>sure the engine gets up to full operating temperature, shut it off
>and let it sit for an hour. Once its cooled off a bit, check the
>bottom of the radiator and all around the end caps where they
>are crimped tight to the center core for any signs of anti-freeze.
>This may be where your leak is coming from. The only real
>fix for this is to replace the radiator, the stop leak products
>won't fix this because the uneven expansion and contraction
>of the end caps and the center core will keep breaking any
>seal the stop leak products try to make. Supposedly the newer....


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