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small-list-digest Monday, September 13 1999 Volume 03 : Number 236



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Small - 2 WD does not suck...
Re: FTE Small - Re: FTE Small-MSD Ignition
FTE Small - 88 bii overheating!!
FTE Small - Power Chips
Re: FTE Small - 88 bii overheating!!
Re: FTE Small - Power Chips
Re: FTE Small - Power Chips
Re: FTE Small - Power Chips
Re: FTE Small - 2 WD does not suck...
FTE Small - tailgate / mileage Q
FTE Small - Tire & Rim Question
Re: FTE Small - Power Chips
Re: FTE Small - help!! (blow up under the hood)
AW: FTE Small - oil leak and worn bushing

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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 07:32:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ed Knight
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 2 WD does not suck...

Ivan Stewart class drivers and all! Whew, those are rare... ;)

The debate over 2WD vs. 4WD is a no-brainer. The more wheels that you have control over, the better. PERIOD. If you have one wheel getting traction (as in 2WD) then you're way better off with two wheels getting traction (4WD). Add a locking rear with 2WD and get two wheels pulling also, or three with 4WD. Keep adding wheels that pull and get better traction with each step. All the way up to all wheels pulling - and the more the better.

This is not to say that there aren't uses for all types - 2WD is better at getting good mileage and general driving on the highway. And yes, there are pre-runners and classes that race 2WD. These may even be faster that 4WD in certain situations, such as some desert races. But less face it, these are hard packed trails, where speed is kept up. A light, fast moving vehicle is what is needed to "skim" along the surface. A 4WD system is more geared to low-end pulling through slippery or loose material off road. Let's get some of those 2WD's out on a mud-run, rally, or off-road trek and see what happens...

Problems with 4WD - more expensive, heavier, higher maintenance, and tends to give inexperienced wheelers over-confidence, so they get themselves in bad situations. Same with driving on ice. Ice gives no special treatment to 4x4's. A lot of people will figure that since they have 4WD, they can just zoom along without a care. They soon get educated. But, as I said before, the more wheels that pull, the better your chances that one might find traction somewhere.

Each system has good and bad points, but what it will be used for will determine which system is better. All it takes is a little common sense...

Ed


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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:56:14 -0700
From: Adam McLaughlin
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re: FTE Small-MSD Ignition

Hi Tom,

Eddie Vedder wrote a song for me about my car. It's called Animal and sold
under the album title of the same name, alhough you may have to look under
the Pearl Jam section of your local best buy..

Yeah, I have a 1988 BII. This engine runs so good, that the local shop here
in town that did my replacement of the rear diff tape recorded the audio of
it idling.... Still doesn't use any oil. I did crunch my rear differential
showing stock trucks and japanese stuff what's up, though...

I use the MSD-6A and a blaster 2 Ford TFI coil. I think the coil was $65 and
the MSD box was $170 here in town. Then I put in new Champ Truck Plugs and
splitfire wires. ($80). Cap and rotor were $15. I can tell you I have a
little more low end grunt when whinching and driving at the same time, but
other than that all it really does is give you better throttle response. As
with anything else, what this exactly does for you is dependent on the other
conditions existing on your truck.

It seems like every sunday I end up over/under the little baby bronc. Mine is
so far from stock that I don't really know what it alone would do for you,
but I sure liked having it in there. It may work pretty well for you. I'm
happy with mine. I would recomend it for a slight improvement in stability,
but don't look to getting one to "hot-rod" your ranger...

Best of luck,

Adam

Tom Ewing wrote:

> So Adam I see you're using the MSD ignition. What year is your truck?
> I have a 92 Ranger with the distributorless ignition, and I was wondering
> if it would work for me. Are you happy with the MSD?
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam McLaughlin
> To: small list
> Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 4:22 PM
> Subject: FTE Small - Vacuum assist fuel pumps
>
> >I am getting about 14 MPG with new plugs, wires, MSD Ignition, Mobile 1
> >Tri-synthetic, Flowmasters, 31" BFG and an engine that doesn't leak or
> >burn any oil...
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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:14:18 -0400
From: "Stephen Bozzone"
Subject: FTE Small - 88 bii overheating!!

My BII has always run hot.. always around the N or O in Normal. Just
recently the Check Engine light has been flashing on when it starts getting
very hot (in the red)... sometimes the Engine light comes on in unison with
the oil light. I just had the oil changed yesterday.. problem is still
there. I was running very hot after a 20 mile drive.. barely made it. I
popped the hood, and the hose that goes into the radiator from the reserve
was dripping. My radiator was nearly empty.. I had no antifreeze so I used
good old h20 by itself. Let the car sit for 4 hours, then attempted to
drive home. On the highway.. had to pull over after 10 miles.. the car
turned off, it was past the red... needless to say, it wasn't very happy.
Then there was steam like no one's business, followed by boiling in the
reserve tank.. brown liquid bubbling out onto the ground. It was a mess.

There's also an issue coupled with this: when I turned on the heat in the
beginning (before it got incredibly hot), it worked (it blew hot air)
However, when It became very hot, the heat did not work anymore.. it blew
cool air in. Does this mean something?

I had to repeat this process several times before I got back. What should I
be looking for?

Thanks,


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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:05:49 -0700
From: Adam McLaughlin
Subject: FTE Small - Power Chips

Has anyone tried anything with these power chips? I am wondering what
kind of upgrade am I getting for my $300? Noticeable? I have a 1988
BII...

Thanks,

Adam
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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:25:23 -0400
From: "David A. Cooley"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 88 bii overheating!!

Steve,
That is water pump time.
Replace the thermostat and radiator cap while your at it to ensure nothing
else goes bad.

At 03:14 PM 9/12/99 -0400, you wrote:
>My BII has always run hot.. always around the N or O in Normal. Just
>recently the Check Engine light has been flashing on when it starts getting
>very hot (in the red)... sometimes the Engine light comes on in unison with
>the oil light. I just had the oil changed yesterday.. problem is still
>there. I was running very hot after a 20 mile drive.. barely made it. I
>popped the hood, and the hose that goes into the radiator from the reserve
>was dripping. My radiator was nearly empty.. I had no antifreeze so I used
>good old h20 by itself. Let the car sit for 4 hours, then attempted to
>drive home. On the highway.. had to pull over after 10 miles.. the car
>turned off, it was past the red... needless to say, it wasn't very happy.
>Then there was steam like no one's business, followed by boiling in the
>reserve tank.. brown liquid bubbling out onto the ground. It was a mess.
>
>There's also an issue coupled with this: when I turned on the heat in the
>beginning (before it got incredibly hot), it worked (it blew hot air)
>However, when It became very hot, the heat did not work anymore.. it blew
>cool air in. Does this mean something?
>
>I had to repeat this process several times before I got back. What should I
>be looking for?

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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:27:36 -0400
From: "David A. Cooley"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Power Chips

At 01:05 PM 9/12/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Has anyone tried anything with these power chips? I am wondering what
>kind of upgrade am I getting for my $300? Noticeable? I have a 1988
>BII...


There have been quite a few posts in the past... Depends on who's chip, but
the majority said they got no real benefit except a higher rev limiter.

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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:20:30 -0700
From: Adam McLaughlin
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Power Chips

What rev limiter? Should there be one stock? One time, my TPS froze open at WOT
and I mistakenly depressed the clutch for a half second. You should have heard
that engine as the 7000 RPM Tach hit the stop and the engine screamed towards
infinity. Thank god for fresh, hot, Mobile 1 synthetic oil..... No damage was
done and to this day the motor has yet to consume a drop of the oil or develop a
tick/knock/tap noise...

Adam

"David A. Cooley" wrote:

> At 01:05 PM 9/12/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >Has anyone tried anything with these power chips? I am wondering what
> >kind of upgrade am I getting for my $300? Noticeable? I have a 1988
> >BII...
>
> There have been quite a few posts in the past... Depends on who's chip, but
> the majority said they got no real benefit except a higher rev limiter.
>
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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:06:15 -0400
From: "David A. Cooley"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Power Chips

At 03:20 PM 9/12/99 -0700, you wrote:
>What rev limiter? Should there be one stock? One time, my TPS froze open
>at WOT
>and I mistakenly depressed the clutch for a half second. You should have heard
>that engine as the 7000 RPM Tach hit the stop and the engine screamed towards
>infinity. Thank god for fresh, hot, Mobile 1 synthetic oil..... No damage was
>done and to this day the motor has yet to consume a drop of the oil or
>develop a
>tick/knock/tap noise...


Stock computers all have rev limiters... Not sure what RPM... also, if
you're using the MSD ignition it may ignore the timing etc signals from the
EEC that perform tasks like rev limit... If that's the case that MSD box
is dangerous!

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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:02:26 EDT
From: DJ250r aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 2 WD does not suck...

If you think that desert racing is all hard pack then you have never been in
one.
Go and pre run a race and you will see that the ROAD changes quickly.
I started in on this 2x thing to back up these trucks because every one
THINKS
that these trucks have no propose off the paved roads. THESE TRUCKS can be a
blast in the snow, sand, river bottoms and it doesn't take a lot of $ to
build them up
Dwayne Jackson
95 f150 2X4
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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:21:44 -0400
From: "Will Brown"
Subject: FTE Small - tailgate / mileage Q

Will lowering the tailgate, or replacing fixed tailgate with one of
those "cargo nets" improve or worsen gas mileage?

Also, to the fellow with the lumpy idle... I just replaced my fuel
filter at 34k (94 - 2.3l) and it seemed to help a fair amount.
IIRC you said yours was replaced at 30k, but seemed like you were up
to almost 60k miles.... seems like fuel filter might be candidate
again for replacement.

The other day I suggested PCV valve for the lopey idle... I checked
mine and it was clean and rattly (after I'd bought a replacement) so
no help for me there. (mine is still a tad rough sometimes but the
fuel filter got rid of a "lot" of problems)

\/\/

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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:17:43 -0700
From: Kenny Paul
Subject: FTE Small - Tire & Rim Question

Howdy!

I'm considering getting a set of 18 X 8.5 rims with 285/50-18
Pirelli Scorpion Zeros on my Explorer Sport.

I'd be interested in hearing from anyone that has experience
in general with the Scorpions, (tread life, etc.) or from anyone
that is running a similar size configuration.

Thanks.

Until Next Time, Party Safe!
Kenny Paul, Mini-Truck Mailing List Administrator
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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:28:58 -0700
From: Adam McLaughlin
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Power Chips

No, That happened many months and miles ago, before the MSD helper...

Adam

"David A. Cooley" wrote:

> At 03:20 PM 9/12/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >What rev limiter? Should there be one stock? One time, my TPS froze open
> >at WOT
> >and I mistakenly depressed the clutch for a half second. You should have heard
> >that engine as the 7000 RPM Tach hit the stop and the engine screamed towards
> >infinity. Thank god for fresh, hot, Mobile 1 synthetic oil..... No damage was
> >done and to this day the motor has yet to consume a drop of the oil or
> >develop a
> >tick/knock/tap noise...
>
> Stock computers all have rev limiters... Not sure what RPM... also, if
> you're using the MSD ignition it may ignore the timing etc signals from the
> EEC that perform tasks like rev limit... If that's the case that MSD box
> is dangerous!
>
> ===========================================================
> David Cooley N5XMT Internet: N5XMT bellsouth.net
> Packet: N5XMT KQ4LO.#INT.NC.USA.NA T.A.P.R. Member #7068
> Sponges grow in the ocean... Wonder how deep it would be if they didn't?!
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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:10:01 -0800
From: "Tom Watson"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - help!! (blow up under the hood)

> From: Tom Kirkbride
> Subject: Re: FTE Small - help!!
>
> i checked the ignition module at autozone; all good. But, when i pulled
> the cap off, i noticed a giant hole in it. Somehow, it blew up. I have
> never heard of such a thing. Help?
>

I assume that you mean distrubuter cap. What MIGHT happen is that the
vacuum advance diaphram has a leak, and being as how the intake manafold
(which has fuel and air) causes the vacuum, some of the fuel-air mixture
leaked back into the distrubuter. When enough (it probably doesn't take
much) is there (for whatever reason), and a spark happens (gee, points??),
then the mixture ignites and thus the "blow up".

This especially manes sense if the magic module checks out OK.

Of course if you don't have a distrubuter, or vacuum advance, take the
words of Emily Litella and say "Never mind".

To check, attempt to force air back to the vacuum advance (blow), and see
if you hear (feel) a leak. If so, replace the diaphram as well as the other
things that went boom.

p.s. I heard about this as a puzzler on car talk a (long) while ago.

Good luck...
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:17:18 +0200
From: "Ucen, Thomas, PRE"
Subject: AW: FTE Small - oil leak and worn bushing

Is that the seal where the driveshaft starts? My seal leaks too, but =
the
transmission sits tight.=20
When you change the seal, let me know how much of an effort it was.=20

Tom
1993 Aerostar Ext. 3.0L

- -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Victor L Moran [mailto:vlmoran cse.Buffalo.EDU]
Gesendet am: Montag, 6. September 1999 20:41
An: small-list ford-trucks.com
Betreff: FTE Small - oil leak and worn bushing

Hello,
My 87 aerostar has an oil leak in the real main seal.
This weekend I found that one of the bushings that holds up a beam
that supports the transmission is worn out and is allowing the tranny =
to
sag down on the right side of the car. Could this worn out bushing be
part of the reason that the oil is leakin? (Perhaps a stress is being =
put
on the engine-transmission joint and causing the leak?)
Does this make sense? I would like to try changing this bushing
first before I pay to have the transmission pulled out and the seal....


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