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small-list-digest Thursday, September 9 1999 Volume 03 : Number 232



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Small - Aftermarket I-beams
Re: FTE Small - mileage query
FTE Small - SOHC stumbles at idle
Re: FTE Small - SOHC stumbles at idle
Re: FTE Small - Steering question
Re: FTE Small - Steering question
FTE Small - Inertia Switch
Re: FTE Small - Inertia Switch
Re: FTE Small - Inertia Switch
FTE Small - Long Arm Suspension
Re: FTE Small - Long Arm Suspension
Re: [Re: FTE Small - 88 Bronco II sporadically dies]
RE: FTE Small - Long Arm Suspension
Re: FTE Small - Aftermarket I-beams

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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 07:40:56 -0400
From: daner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Aftermarket I-beams

I drag race my 5.0L ext-a-cab - and I want to lighten the front end, so I
can transfer
weight to the back wheels for traction. If I can get the front wheels off
the ground
that's 100% weight transfer, which equals traction.




At 01:11 AM 9/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>just wondering ? why would u want to lightin it ?
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 07:41:25 -0400
From: Thomas McKillop
Subject: Re: FTE Small - mileage query

I had a 90 Ranger with that engine and got as much as 30 mpg on long
trips. I usually averaged 27-28 mpg. I got rid of the truck early this
year after 215,000 miles with never a problem.

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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 08:14:42 -0400
From: Chris Hunt
Subject: FTE Small - SOHC stumbles at idle

My 97 Explorer SOHC w/39k miles seems to be stumbling at idle. Only the
volt meter shows a flicker when this happens.
Ideas?
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 09:14:20 -0400
From: David Cooley
Subject: Re: FTE Small - SOHC stumbles at idle

At 08:14 AM 9/8/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>My 97 Explorer SOHC w/39k miles seems to be stumbling at idle. Only the
>volt meter shows a flicker when this happens.
>Ideas?


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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:24:57 EDT
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Steering question

Michael.. just for the heck of it.. what "other" strange noises are you
getting from your truck so i can listen to them with my truck?.. Also i spoke
to the dealer today where i bought the truck and hes telling me its "normal
for the steering noise as the parts are "working in" seems odd to me but he
claims his explorer does it too..
Bob
Rolson1039 aol.com
99 Ranger 2wd
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 15:53:27 -0700
From: "Michael D. Sheridan"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Steering question

ROlson1039 aol.com wrote:
>
> Michael.. just for the heck of it.. what "other" strange noises are you
> getting from your truck so i can listen to them with my truck?.. Also i spoke
> to the dealer today where i bought the truck and hes telling me its "normal
> for the steering noise as the parts are "working in" seems odd to me but he
> claims his explorer does it too..
> Bob
> Rolson1039 aol.com
> 99 Ranger 2wd

Hi Bob:

So typical of a dealer to give us this old *Working In* baloney when
they don't have an answer or care. What it all boils down to is that
I was born before WW2 and I've heard all this stuff so many times, you
know, so...

The other noises are a bunch of buzzing that takes place in
first gear after you leave a light that has just turned green. The
sounds seem to come from up front under the hood but could be under
the dash. The noises take place about 1500 RPM and go away after
that. It's like everything up front is vibrating or the thing is
pinging or something.

I've taken foam rubber pieces and placed under this and that
thinking it's vibrating but can't find the thing. I'll live with
it as I really believe that the dealer will cause more damage to
my truck trying to find this problem than good and in the end
I'll still have the problem and a bunch more and my time will have
been totally wasted as usual with stuff like this.

If you have the center arm rest it will soon sound like it's
breaking every time you put your elbow on it and may scare you
the first time but don't worry. For that I will demand a new
lid when I someday have to take the truck to the dealer for other
repairs under warrantee.

If you have an automatic you may get the buzz noise so bad at
highway speeds that you'll have to stick cotton in your ears
or something or go nuts like was reported to me by another owner
of our trucks so watch for that.

The truck came to me new with the front end out of alignment
so my front tires are looking bad at 9000 miles but I'll demand
new tires and a fix for that someday, you know.

If you have the regular cab and want a topper just forget
it as they made the bed smaller and nothing worth having
will fit right unless you want it hanging over the sides and
looking stupid. In time perhaps someone will make a topper to
fit right but for now I don't see anything. A LID will fit
however but be sure they measure everything and check with the
maker.

Michael
1999 Mazda B2500 Reg Cab 4 Cylinder 2.5L 5 speed.
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 17:26:57 PDT
From: "Wayne Signs"
Subject: FTE Small - Inertia Switch

Where is the inertia switch(fuel shutoff)???? I do not have a owner's
manual(there is a sticker that says look in the owners manual) and this
seems to be giving me and others problems...

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:40:29 -0400
From: "Will Brown"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Inertia Switch

> Where is the inertia switch(fuel shutoff)???? I do not have a
> owner's manual(there is a sticker that says look in the owners
> manual) and this seems to be giving me and others problems...

Probably depends on the year and model (just guessing) but on a 94
Ranger, it's in the pax floorboard, up on the firewall, just
underneath the carpet, towards the xmission hump

\/\/

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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:41:18 EDT
From: Bakend aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Inertia Switch

In a message dated 9/8/99 6:33:14 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
wsigns3 hotmail.com writes:

> Where is the inertia switch(fuel shutoff)???? I do not have a owner's
> manual(there is a sticker that says look in the owners manual) and this
> seems to be giving me and others problems...
>
Mine was under the carpet on the passenger side just below the heater etc. I
would guess that it varies by year. My truck is 1987 Ecab and it had to be
replaced at 120K miles.
Dennis Baken
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 21:03:32 -0400
From: J Cope
Subject: FTE Small - Long Arm Suspension

Does my '88 BII have the famed Long Arm Twin I Beam suspension?

JC
'88 BII XLT
235/70R15s
10k tow hooks
40ch CB
Removed airbox
K&N
Light bar
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:52:42 -0400
From: "4xFord"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Long Arm Suspension

A '83-97 4x4 Ford Bronco II/Ranger has what Ford called the Twin Traction
Beam (TTB) suspension. 4x2's had the Twin I beam suspension...basicly the
same thing.

Bryce



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Subject: FTE Small - Long Arm Suspension


> Does my '88 BII have the famed Long Arm Twin I Beam suspension?
>
> JC
> '88 BII XLT
> 235/70R15s
> 10k tow hooks
> 40ch CB
> Removed airbox
> K&N
> Light bar
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 19:23:27 -0700
From: Adam McLaughlin
Subject: Re: [Re: FTE Small - 88 Bronco II sporadically dies]

This is the spout connector, and it lets the computer advance the timing when it
needs to. There should be a jumper there...

Adam

Wayne Signs wrote:

> Okay, The saga continues...
> I am getting spark from the coil to the Distributor.
> I am getting no spark out of the distributor.
> I have had the ignition module tested, and it is good.
> I bought a new distributor and installed it.
> There is a disconnected 2 wire connector (1 Yellow/w' Green Stripe wire, 1
> Yellow/w' Blue Stripe wire), that I believe is the problem. This connector
> is on the same wire harness that goes to the ignition module.
> I cannot see a place to connect this connector. Can somebody with a 1988
> 2.9 Litre (mine is a Bronco II) tell me where this connector goes to????
> I used a voltage light(not a multimeter) to see if there is power coming
> from the ignition module harness; Going from Black over to the right:
> 1)No Power
> 2)Continuous Power
> 3)Continuous Power
> 4)Power when key is turned
> 5)No Power (yellow wire w' Green stripe)
> 6)No Power
> I can take a picture if that helps...
> PLEASE HELP!!!!!
>
> P.S.
> Great post Tim!
>
> >From: Tim Turner
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> >Subject: Re: [Re: FTE Small - 88 Bronco II sporadically dies]
> >Date: 2 Sep 99 22:36:26 EDT
> >
> >"Wayne Signs" wrote:
> > > Okay, I heard back from the dealership. They are saying it may be the
> >Ignition Module
> >
> >
> >Most likely, but still hard to be *sure*, it's good form to replace the
> >distributor at the same time as if the pick-up inside is failing it may
> >burn
> >up the new module in a few weeks.
> >
> > > (better answer than ENGINE)
> >
> >MUCH better, but I still dont know how they came up with that diagnosis!
> >
> > > I will replace a ignition module myself, first
> >
> >Not hard to do, the bolts involved are 5.5MM head (7/32" will work),
> >depending
> >on the thickness of your socket you might neet to grind (file?) the bottom
> >1/2" or so to a smaller overall diameter to get inside the hole s of the
> >module.
> >
> > > (can you believe he quoted $300 parts/labor to replace this???).
> >
> >Since they wanted to shotgun an engine at it... yeah. At my shop you could
> >have the module, distributor, and some routine services done for that with
> >change left over from that $300. (Of course my area has the lowest
> >regional labor rates but even at $100/Hr it sounds pretty high; at the $44
> >we
> >charge I'm umm.. wondering.)
> >
> > > bought my BII a week ago with the intentions of fixing everything so it
> >would be a very reliable vehicle.
> >
> >I hope you enjoy it as much as I do mine. :-)
> >
> > > continue today, but the service manager's first comment was "It needs a
> >new
> >motor, because it has too much blow by". This vehicle has 78,000 miles and
> >the engine sounds GREAT!
> >
> >Time to find a better place to go. Service writers dont need to make more
> >than a *very* prelim. diagnosis of the situation and certainly not one of
> >that
> >magnitude. Remember.. if he was that good at diagnostics he'd be *IN* the
> >shop rather than greeting you. (Barring of course cases where good tech's
> >became disabled by flying fans, falling engines or any of the myriad of
> >hazards faced every day in the shop and is now doing the selling instead
> >of
> >the wrenching.
> >with
> >awsome flames and open fuel lines, then after that's all done another
> >starts
> >*in gear* on the alignment lift.. No real damage to anything, but just like
> >having a lift fall onto the safety latch it makes me think about selling
> >all
> >$15-20K of my equipment and do something else.>) But I digress; forgive
> >me.
> >:-)
> >
> > > I am not buying the "New Motor" story.
> >
> >Nor am I!
> >
> > > I was expecting one of the following: EGR, O2 Sensor, Catalytic
> >converter.
> >
> >Add fuel pump, FP or main relay, EEC-IV computer itself and any of the
> >other
> >sensors not mentioned so far; but agreed that the ignition module is
> >likely.
> >The Ignition coil itself is possible, but I've probably replaced 75 modules
> >for every Ford TFI Ign. coil I've seen bad. (Good odds!) ;-)
> >
> > > Not "New Motor". Anybody have any ideas of what the problem may be from
> >experience?
> >
> >I've shared thoughts from 14 years of doing diagnostics; if possible would
> >the
> >technician involved tell you the codes he retrieved during testing? Off
> >the
> >top of my head I'd say that if 14 &/or 18 (? might be faulty memory on the
> >18,
> >possibly 21/24?) were involved the TFI (ignition) would be the first place
> >to
> >look. Main words to look for in the code definitions would be SPOUT or PIP
> >erratic. (PIP being the signal from the pick up in the distributor and
> >SPOUT
> >being the modified signal sent to the dizzy from the computer.)
> >
> >Thanks!!
> >
> >Hope this helps! Sorry for the length.
> >
> >Tim
> >
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:05:18 -0400
From: J Cope
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Long Arm Suspension

Call me uneducated, but could someone explain exactly what TTB is and how it
works?
Thanks!

JC
'88 BII XLT
235/70R15s
10k tow hooks
40ch CB
Removed airbox
K&N
Light bar

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A '83-97 4x4 Ford Bronco II/Ranger has what Ford called the Twin Traction
Beam (TTB) suspension. 4x2's had the Twin I beam suspension...basicly the
same thing.

Bryce



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> Does my '88 BII have the famed Long Arm Twin I Beam suspension?
>
> JC
> '88 BII XLT
> 235/70R15s
> 10k tow hooks
> 40ch CB
> Removed airbox
> K&N
> Light bar
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