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From: owner-small-list-digest To: small-list-digest Subject: small-list-digest V3 #219 Reply-To: small-list Sender: owner-small-list-digest Errors-To: owner-small-list-digest Precedence: bulk small-list-digest Thursday, August 26 1999 Volume 03 : Number 219 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Ranger, Explorer, Bronco 2 and Aerostar Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe small-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: FTE Small - 4wd auto [none] RE: FTE Small - 4wd auto Re: FTE Small - Re: Tires Re: FTE Small - Re: Tires Re: FTE Small - OBDII tools FTE Small - re: coupla questions (newie content) FTE Small - Shifting into Neutral Re: FTE Small - Shifting into Neutral FTE Small - Shocks FTE Small - Bronco II Hesitation Re: [FTE Small - Bronco II Hesitation] FTE Small - Oops.. Re: FTE Small - Shifting into Neutral Re: FTE Small - Shifting into Neutral ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:24:54 +0300 From: Bolte Brent Subject: Re: FTE Small - 4wd auto David's right, if you are having problems with vehicle control because of hydroplaning the way to properly correct the problem is to SLOW DOWN. On the 1995 and 1996 Explorers with Control Trak the standard driving mode is 2WD ( they have a slightly different Control Trak system than the 1997 and newer Explorers have ). On these Explorers when you have the system in 2WD mode, the front drive shaft is actually disconnected from the front wheels by a vacuum operated disconnect in the front differential ( giving you true 2WD ). Switching to 4WD AUTO makes the disconnect in the front differential engage which "turns on" the transfer case and gives you computer controlled 4WD ( on 1997 and newer Explorers they did away with the front axle disconnect and made the standard driving mode 4WD AUTO ). While in 4WD AUTO ( on all Control Trak Explorers ) you end up with somewhat of an AWD system since, because of residual friction in the variable lockup clutch pak in the transfer case, you always have a minimum of about 5% of the torque being sent to the front axle. On my 1995 I find it helpful to switch from 2WD mode to 4WD AUTO mode when driving in heavy rain to help with traction problems, but this is normally to help prevent the rear wheels from spinning when taking off from stop lights, not to keep the front end under control. You may find that putting the Explorer in 4WD AUTO will help with your control problem slightly when driving on rain soaked roads since ( once again because of the residual friction in the variable lockup clutch pak in the transfer case), a small amount of torque is always being sent to the front axle which will lessen the tendency of the front tires to slow down or stop turning when running in deep water at highway speeds. Because of the variable lockup capability of the Control Trak transfer case when driving in 4WD AUTO you will not harm the system when driving on dry road conditions and normally will not be able to feel any difference in vehicle operation between driving in 2WD mode or 4WD AUTO mode. On 1997 and newer Explorers with Control Trak you don't have the choice of true 2WD mode as 4WD AUTO is the standard driving mode ( they have no 2WD setting on the dash switch ). Common sense however will tell you that doing this will only help cover up an already unsafe driving condition and the correct way to remedy this situation is to slow down. Later, Brent Bolte On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, David A. Cooley wrote: > Hydroplaning isn't a function of 4WD or 2WD. It's the > tires and the conditions. If you are hydroplaning it > means SLOW DOWN. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:39:03 -0400 From: SKrobath Subject: [none] This is a first-time post to the list, so be nice:-> I have a '91 Explorer that is losing transmission fluid slowly. There are no spots on the ground. I have been told that it is a 'vacuum modulator valve'? I have been able to find a vacuum line that appears to go down to the transmission, but I can't find the valve. I have the two volume shop manual set but I only find a passing reference to the valve in there, not its' location. Can anyone shed any light on this? TIA, Steve....... == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:52:05 -0500 From: "Tony Rio (Chicago)" Subject: RE: FTE Small - 4wd auto We bought our 95 Explorer EB about 18 months ago and when my best friends wife saw, she decided they had to have one. Matt purchased a 94 limited, and soon found out the hard way about what 4wd really does. Similar to the wet traction scenario... After skidding off the highway, through a wood fence, and into a farmers field in Indiana he learned that you cannot just flip on 4wd and still do 65-70 over snow packed roads. When a friend of my father bought a Hummer a few years ago he said that the saleman did a really good job of summing up a 4wd system. As he explained it, 4wd provides a far greater degree of "increased mobility" than it did "increased traction". To piont, what he meant was 4wd will get you in and out of places that a 2wd vehicle can't. However, 4 powered wheels do you very little good on sheer ice or similar surfaces. If the rear wheels won't grab, chances are neither will the front ones. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:18:35 -0400 From: Michael Paul Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re: Tires A 30X9.50/15 goodyear wrangler RTS($100/tire) or fisk phantom ($60/tire) would be fit the bill very well.A BFG longtrail ($100/tire) is a little more aggressive, but will still handle well onroad. A michelin ltx ms is an excellent mild tread tire for treadwear, sound, traction, and hauling capacity. It will run about $100 per tire. These prices are based on a 235/75R15 tire size. You truck will accomodate tires as large as 31X10.50/15, but you'll notice a small loss of mileage and power with a tire that big. For your needs a 235 would work best. "Jesse A. Edwards" wrote: > Morning Michael, > > Read your e-mail and would like to ask your input. My '94 Ranger Splash, extend > cab, 4x4, auto, 4.0, 55,500 miles will need tires in the near future. The > tires on the truck are Firestone Wilderness ATX. I don't use the truck off road > but do haul items, i.e.: plants, mulch, furniture. What I like in a tire is > quietness, smooth ride, traction (we don't have extreme snow/ice in this area > but I would like as maximum as possible on wet roads), decent mileage (both tire > wear and gas) and won't break the bank! > > Any suggestions you have will be appreciated - thanks. > > Jesse Edwards > Asheville, NC > Phubby > > Michael Paul wrote: > > > 88biixlt > > > > > BFG has a new tire line > > > out. It's called the BFG AT T/A KO. I guess it's a new and improved > > > version of the original AT T/A. > > > > The new T/A (traction advantage) has a different rubber compound, tractions > > sipes, and a rim guard. Pretty cool, but is given to chronic vibrations on a > > narrow rim. The sidewinder AP is a great tire. Expect a more aggressive, > > self-cleaning tread pattern, 40,000k tread life (with 6-8k rotations), and > > about $80 less on the wallet. Pretty good bang for the buck. As a tire tech. > > at Discount Tire, I reccomend this tire for anyone who does a lot of on-road > > travel, but wants the ability to hit the trails with some teeth on their > > tires. I run a 30X9.50/15 on my Bronco II and have been REALLY impressed > > with what they do offroad, and how the behave on road as well. > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > This Message was Powered by Xcel Communications > > > Sign up for your FREE EMAIL account today at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mailroom.com > > > Give your FAX machine an email address http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.faxroom.com > > > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Michael Paul > > * My ICQ# is 11332453 > > * Check out my site at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://i.am/danger-clown > > * Send an E-mail directly to my screen 11332453 > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html - -- - ---------------------------------------------------- Michael Paul * My ICQ# is 11332453 * Check out my site at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://i.am/danger-clown * Send an E-mail directly to my screen 11332453 - ---------------------------------------------------- == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:57:31 -0400 From: "Jesse A. Edwards" Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re: Tires Hi Michael - Thanks for the info! Will definitely use it when shopping for the tires!! Peace. Jerry Edwards Michael Paul wrote: > A 30X9.50/15 goodyear wrangler RTS($100/tire) or fisk phantom ($60/tire) would be > fit the bill very well.A BFG longtrail ($100/tire) is a little more aggressive, but > will still handle well onroad. A michelin ltx ms is an excellent mild tread tire for > treadwear, sound, traction, and hauling capacity. It will run about $100 per tire. > These prices are based on a 235/75R15 tire size. You truck will accomodate tires as > large as 31X10.50/15, but you'll notice a small loss of mileage and power with a > tire that big. For your needs a 235 would work best. > "Jesse A. Edwards" wrote: > > > Morning Michael, > > > > Read your e-mail and would like to ask your input. My '94 Ranger Splash, extend > > cab, 4x4, auto, 4.0, 55,500 miles will need tires in the near future. The > > tires on the truck are Firestone Wilderness ATX. I don't use the truck off road > > but do haul items, i.e.: plants, mulch, furniture. What I like in a tire is > > quietness, smooth ride, traction (we don't have extreme snow/ice in this area > > but I would like as maximum as possible on wet roads), decent mileage (both tire > > wear and gas) and won't break the bank! > > > > Any suggestions you have will be appreciated - thanks. > > > > Jesse Edwards > > Asheville, NC > > Phubby > > > > Michael Paul wrote: > > > > > 88biixlt > > > > > > > BFG has a new tire line > > > > out. It's called the BFG AT T/A KO. I guess it's a new and improved > > > > version of the original AT T/A. > > > > > > The new T/A (traction advantage) has a different rubber compound, tractions > > > sipes, and a rim guard. Pretty cool, but is given to chronic vibrations on a > > > narrow rim. The sidewinder AP is a great tire. Expect a more aggressive, > > > self-cleaning tread pattern, 40,000k tread life (with 6-8k rotations), and > > > about $80 less on the wallet. Pretty good bang for the buck. As a tire tech. > > > at Discount Tire, I reccomend this tire for anyone who does a lot of on-road > > > travel, but wants the ability to hit the trails with some teeth on their > > > tires. I run a 30X9.50/15 on my Bronco II and have been REALLY impressed > > > with what they do offroad, and how the behave on road as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This Message was Powered by Xcel Communications > > > > Sign up for your FREE EMAIL account today at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mailroom.com > > > > Give your FAX machine an email address http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.faxroom.com > > > > > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > > > > > -- > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > Michael Paul > > > * My ICQ# is 11332453 > > > * Check out my site at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://i.am/danger-clown > > > * Send an E-mail directly to my screen 11332453 > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------- > Michael Paul > * My ICQ# is 11332453 > * Check out my site at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://i.am/danger-clown > * Send an E-mail directly to my screen 11332453 > ---------------------------------------------------- > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:19:03 -0500 From: Paul Olson Subject: Re: FTE Small - OBDII tools In 1995 some of the Rangers started to have some of the OBDII features. I believe that one of the features is the connector located under the stearing wheel. If it is like my Explorer, it has a cover over the connector. The site at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.obdii.com/connector.html has some more infomation on what to look for. Hope this helps, Paul SpyderLv81 > > It doesn't have a plug under the hood for the scan tool. I have a scanner > that I have used on others and the box says it doesn't work on 95 rangers. > > Spyder2 > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 99 16:15:15 EDT From: conan Subject: FTE Small - re: coupla questions (newie content) >> If these shocks are 1/4 the cost of your Miata shocks and you don't mind >>paying the Miata shock price, check out Edelbrock Performer IAS shocks. IMHO... ;-) Better yet would be Bilstein. Last I heard they were still running their special ~$60/each for truck shocks, and I believe Explorers qualify. My local source is Auto Sport Gallery 1-800-868-2002 and they will ship. Disclaimer: Owner IS a friend of mine. NO monetary connection though. Ed in NC == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:48:38 -0400 From: Robert Iserman Subject: FTE Small - Shifting into Neutral My '98 Explorer XLT (SOHC, 5-speed automatic, Control-Trac, limited slip) has 12,000 miles on the odometer. Sometimes when I try to quickly accelerate from a standing start, entering a highway for instance, the transmission disengages and the engine just races. No power gets to the wheels. The same thing happens when I floor the throttle to kick down into passing gear. It feels like the transmission is shifting into neutral. In both cases, If I then take my foot off the gas and allow the engine to slow down, the drivetrain reconnects with a clunk and I can drive again provided I don't floor it. My dealer has checked the transmission fluid level (normal) and run computer checks all to no avail. Does anyone have any idea as to what specifically is the problem? Thanks, Bob Iserman == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:08:34 -0400 From: "David A. Cooley" Subject: Re: FTE Small - Shifting into Neutral At 04:48 PM 8/25/99 -0400, you wrote: >My '98 Explorer XLT (SOHC, 5-speed automatic, Control-Trac, limited slip) >has 12,000 miles on the odometer. > >Sometimes when I try to quickly accelerate from a standing start, entering >a highway for instance, the transmission disengages and the engine just >races. No power gets to the wheels. The same thing happens when I floor >the throttle to kick down into passing gear. It feels like the >transmission is shifting into neutral. > >In both cases, If I then take my foot off the gas and allow the engine to >slow down, the drivetrain reconnects with a clunk and I can drive again >provided I don't floor it. > >My dealer has checked the transmission fluid level (normal) and run >computer checks all to no avail. > >Does anyone have any idea as to what specifically is the problem? The trans itself =========================================================== David Cooley N5XMT Internet: N5XMT Packet: N5XMT Sponges grow in the ocean... Wonder how deep it would be if they didn't?! =========================================================== == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:42:47 -0500 From: Kevin Bice Subject: FTE Small - Shocks > Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:48:27 -0400 > From: "Will Brown" > Subject: Re: FTE Small - coupla questions (newbie content) > "I found the Edelbrocks for $75/ea or so in Summit... As a point of > reference, I just bought a set of 4 Konis at $110/ea for the Miata. > Next step up, which I did contemplate, is GAB (not Gabriel) at > $180/ea. You guys got it lucky!!" > I Found the Edelbrock shocks online for $54.39 ea. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.carpartsonsale.com/ But was unsure about doing business with them. I called Summit racing and gave them this web site to see if they would price match. They did and in addition they're sending me a rebate coupon for $27.00 which I can redeem through Edelbrock. I know Summit is a reputable company, this is why I decided to go with them. I am suppose to get my shocks tomorrow and really looking forward to seeing how they will perform. Kevin 94 Ford Explorer Sport 4x4 92 Ford Ranger > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:20:56 -0700 From: "Ryan Miller" Subject: FTE Small - Bronco II Hesitation I'm having a small (for now) but annoying problem with my '87 Bronco II (2.9, 4x4, AT). After sitting for awhile (i.e., overnight), the truck will run fine then suddenly bog down. It will recover if I give it a lot of gas. This goes on for the first couple of miles, then stops and runs fine. The engine runs smoothly through all of this, it just loses power momentarily. In fact, when I pull out and stop to close the gate, the idle will usually drop for a moment then go back up. The suddenness of the change makes me think this is electronics related, perhaps a sensor. Could this be the throttle position sensor? Any other ideas? Thanks, Ryan == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: 25 Aug 99 20:56:29 EDT From: Tim Turner Subject: Re: [FTE Small - Bronco II Hesitation] "Ryan Miller" wrote: > I'm having a small (for now) but annoying problem with my '87 Bronco II= > (2.9, 4x4, AT). After sitting for awhile (i.e., overnight), the truck w= ill > run fine then suddenly bog down. It will recover if I give it a lot of = gas. > This goes on for the first couple of miles, then stops and runs fine. = Look on the FTE site for retrieving the codes of the EEC-IV system and le= t us know what you come up with. = For guessing I'd suggest the coolant temp. sensor and/or intake temp. sen= sor; possibly a healthy build up of carbon on the valves/throttle/injectors th= at cleaning could remove. Tim ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://webm= ail.netscape.com. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: 25 Aug 99 21:14:48 EDT From: Tim Turner Subject: FTE Small - Oops.. I'm back.. new address and such; sorry if anyone got bounced mail over= the last week or two. First my ISP decided I didn't exist and wants $$ to re= store me and then lightning wiped out all my computer and radio equipment so it= 's been an interesting time. Happily the B-II is still alive and kicking! ;-) Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic Custer Auto Repair Wilmington NC ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://webm= ail.netscape.com. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:35:24 -0400 From: Jean Marc Chartier Subject: Re: FTE Small - Shifting into Neutral Robert Iserman wrote: > > My '98 Explorer XLT (SOHC, 5-speed automatic, Control-Trac, limited slip) > has 12,000 miles on the odometer. > > Sometimes when I try to quickly accelerate from a standing start, entering > a highway for instance, the transmission disengages and the engine just > races. No power gets to the wheels. The same thing happens when I floor the > throttle to kick down into passing gear. It feels like the transmission is > shifting into neutral. > > In both cases, If I then take my foot off the gas and allow the engine to > slow down, the drivetrain reconnects with a clunk and I can drive again > provided I don't floor it. > > My dealer has checked the transmission fluid level (normal) and run > computer checks all to no avail. > > Does anyone have any idea as to what specifically is the problem? > > Thanks, > > Bob Iserman > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html Bob, Sounds like the T-case is slipping. Have they checked it out? Regards Jean Marc Chartier == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:08:02 -0400 From: Robert Iserman Subject: Re: FTE Small - Shifting into Neutral Hi Jean Marc, What is a "T-case?" Do you mean the transmission housing or some part I am not familiar with? Bob Iserman At 12:35 AM 8/26/99 -0400, you wrote: >Robert Iserman wrote: > > > > My '98 Explorer XLT (SOHC, 5-speed automatic, Control-Trac, limited slip) > > has 12,000 miles on the odometer. > > > > Sometimes when I try to quickly accelerate from a standing start, entering > > a highway for instance, the transmission disengages and the engine just > > races. No power gets to the wheels. The same thing happens when I floor the > > throttle to kick down into passing gear. It feels like the transmission is > > shifting into neutral. > > > > In both cases, If I then take my foot off the gas and allow the engine to > > slow down, the drivetrain reconnects with a clunk and I can drive again.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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