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small-list-digest Wednesday, August 25 1999 Volume 03 : Number 218



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In this issue:

FTE Small - 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Re: FTE Small - 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Re: FTE Small - Explorer w/ 4.10 gears
RE: FTE Small - MAF Sensor
FTE Small - 4wd auto
Re: FTE Small - 4wd auto
Re: FTE Small - 4wd auto
Re: FTE Small - coupla questions (newbie content)
Re: FTE Small - coupla questions (newbie content)
Re: FTE Small - coupla questions (newbie content)
Re: FTE Small - OBDII tools
Re: FTE Small - OBDII tools
FTE Small - [Fwd: TIMING MARKS]

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:31:22 -0500
From: mike youther
Subject: FTE Small - 80-96-list ford-trucks.com

What grade of gasoline I should use in an '83 Ranger with a 2.3L engine?

thanks,

Michael L. Youther
Dept. of Physiology
Southern Illinois University
Carbondale, IL 62901


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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:39:39 -0400
From: David Cooley
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 80-96-list ford-trucks.com

At 08:31 AM 8/24/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>What grade of gasoline I should use in an '83 Ranger with a 2.3L engine?


87 is what it was designed for. If you have to run higher to keep it from
pinging, then there is a problem that needs addressed.

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:23:44 +0300
From: Bolte Brent
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer w/ 4.10 gears

The 1991-1993 Explorers ( which was the years that Mark
Biederbeck mentioned he would be interested in ) only
came with one engine option and that was the OHV 4.0L
V6. The Explorers also never came with anything but
a full size spare tire that is mounted up under the rear
cargo area, so that really won't tell you anything either.
Back in 1991-1993 the towing option provided a top axle
ratio of 3.73 ( with 3.55 or in some areas 3.28 being the
normal standard axle ratio ). The auxiliary transmission
cooler is a good way to tell if the towing package was
installed as it only came as part of the towing package.
The thing you have to be careful of with the transmission
cooler is that you are looking for the correct thing. All
Explorers with automatic transmissions have a basic
transmission cooler as standard equipment. Ford runs
the transmission fluid through lines up to the end tank
of the radiator where the fluid runs through a coil inside
the tank and is "cooled" by the water in the radiator.
With the towing package an additional cooler is mounted
in front of the radiator and A/C coil ( if it has A/C ) and the
transmission fluid is run through both the radiator cooler
and the extra auxiliary cooler. I don't believe 4.10 axle
ratios were available as standard option until 1995 or
1996 but even then were only available with certain
option/trim/engine packages ( although you may have
been able to special order them from the factory in years
before that ).

Thanks, Brent Bolte

On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Jeffery G. Conrad wrote:

>First, towing capacity depends upon your engine/trans/gear
>combo. I don't have the OM for the older Explorers, but a 3.0
>(or 2.9) equipped with 4.10 gears probably came with a towing
>package. One easy way to tell is if the spare is full size. If it
>is, then check for a transmission cooler. If originally equipped
>with both, then it is a good bet that it has a tow package. If
>that's the case 3000 pounds should be fine ( I think they are
>rated to 5000 pounds.)


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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:58:00 -0500
From: Mike Harms
Subject: RE: FTE Small - MAF Sensor

This guy has covered his bases pretty well already. He tried the standard
chip makers (as during his performance upgrade, he has already replaced the
chip on his original ECM) but apparently they were not interested. He is
aware that it is a non-trivial request he is making, which is why he was
trying to find someone with the expertise.

Last I heard, he is going to try a system from a different car that came
with the larger injectors. At issue, I believe, is that the size of
injector he is using is a little large for what any other V6 applications
have used. I could be mistaken though. But this is what makes it hard to
match up.

That's the wall you hit with a MAF system. While you gain variability in the
intake and exhaust portion of the system, the computer still has some hard
values it must have. Until they start putting flow sensors on each injector,
the injector attributes will continue to be hard coded.

>Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:58:13 -0400
>From: Dave Slotter
>Subject: RE: FTE Small - MAF Sensor

>>Nope, there is not a commercially packaged MAF management system for the
2.9
>>Ford (and probably never will be)
>>
...
>>issue with the computer calibrated for a different injector than he is
>>running and he has not been able to find anyone willing to reprogram the
>>computer. There are tips on the board from him that tell ya how to do it
if

>I am a software engineer and I can tell you that reprogramming the
>computer is non-trivial *even for me* since (on the EEC-IV at least -
>don't know the type of computer he has) the computer is an
>embedded-processor and doesn't have a "standard" interface type. Now,
...
>There are also companies such as SuperChips which specialize in
>supplying custom EEC ROMs, so he may want to check them out - at $250
...
>The last alternative is to swap in an EEC-IV for a different vehicle
>(with similar engine characteristics) but with this guy's
>modifications, there may not be one that's right for him.
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:27:39 -0400
From: "Steinbrook, Steve"
Subject: FTE Small - 4wd auto

Is it harmful for the vehicle to use 4wd auto on hard surfaces in the rain
while driving at high speeds? I have a 1996 Explorer Sport that fishtails
and hydroplanes in wet weather. Is it OK to use the 4wd auto mode while on
the highway in this weather? What else can I do to combat this (add weight
to the rear of the truck?)? I am going to get new tires which should help.
Thanks for any advice.
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:40:32 -0400
From: "David A. Cooley"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 4wd auto

At 05:27 PM 8/24/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Is it harmful for the vehicle to use 4wd auto on hard surfaces in the rain
>while driving at high speeds? I have a 1996 Explorer Sport that fishtails
>and hydroplanes in wet weather. Is it OK to use the 4wd auto mode while on
>the highway in this weather? What else can I do to combat this (add weight
>to the rear of the truck?)? I am going to get new tires which should help.
>Thanks for any advice.


Hydroplaning isn't a function of 4WD or 2WD. It's the tires and the
conditions. If you are hydroplaning it means SLOW DOWN. Your tires aren't
able to move the water out from under them. A different tire may help.
If you have the control trac, you have no choice but to use 4WD auto on the
highway... 4WD High or Low on pavement or any hard surface will destroy the
transfer case and differentials. 4WD Auto is a 2wd system until it detects
rear tire slip.

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:38:02 -0400
From: "Stephen Bozzone"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 4wd auto

You probably need new tires, check the treads. If you don't, get better
ones. That's usually the biggest problem with wet traction.

Steve Bozzone
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From: Steinbrook, Steve
To:
Sent: 24/8/99 5:27 PM
Subject: FTE Small - 4wd auto


>Is it harmful for the vehicle to use 4wd auto on hard surfaces in the rain
>while driving at high speeds? I have a 1996 Explorer Sport that fishtails
>and hydroplanes in wet weather. Is it OK to use the 4wd auto mode while on
>the highway in this weather? What else can I do to combat this (add weight
>to the rear of the truck?)? I am going to get new tires which should help.
>Thanks for any advice.
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:59:42 -0400
From: "Anthony Rifici"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - coupla questions (newbie content)

>b) Common wisdom on decent shocks: Gabriel, Rancho, others? This
>thing wallows like a beached whale... ((aside: My other car is a
>Miata, and the prices you guys pay for shox are amazing... in that
>they're about one-fourth what I gotta pay for decent parts...))


I put Monroe Gas Magnum Plus (Sensa-trac for trucks) on 30,000 miles
ago. They ride a little rougher than stock, which I don't mind. They have
held up very well considering the roads where I live, which are in really
poor condition. I think Gabriel is Monroe's lower priced name, I have heard
good things about them.
If these shocks are 1/4 the cost of your Miata shocks and you don't mind
paying the Miata shock price, check out Edelbrock Performer IAS shocks.

Tony
'94 Ranger Supercab, 4.0L, 5-Speed.



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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:54:36 EDT
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - coupla questions (newbie content)

Just to correct you Gabriel is NOT monroe..
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:48:27 -0400
From: "Will Brown"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - coupla questions (newbie content)

Anthony Rifici wrote:

> I put Monroe Gas Magnum Plus (Sensa-trac for trucks) on 30,000
> miles ago. They ride a little rougher than stock, which I don't
> mind. They have held up very well considering the roads where I
> live, which are in really poor condition. I think Gabriel is
> Monroe's lower priced name, I have heard good things about them.

Thanks (to all!) for the input - Good to hear Gabriels are "OK" - I
still can't get over seeing them for $25/ea

> If these shocks are 1/4 the cost of your Miata shocks and you
> don't mind paying the Miata shock price, check out Edelbrock
> Performer IAS shocks.

I found the Edelbrocks for $75/ea or so in Summit... As a point of
reference, I just bought a set of 4 Konis at $110/ea for the Miata.
Next step up, which I did contemplate, is GAB (not Gabriel) at
$180/ea. You guys got it lucky!!

Anyone got any ideas on times for shock replacement on the Ranger?
Eyeballing the manual and the truck itself, looks like 15 minutes a
corner? Again, a better deal by at least 75% than on a Miata. Even
once you know what you're doing, it takes about 4-6 hours as a DIY
project....

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:58:45 EDT
From: SpyderLv81 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - OBDII tools

It doesn't have a plug under the hood for the scan tool. I have a scanner
that I have used on others and the box says it doesn't work on 95 rangers.

Spyder2
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:10:39 -0400
From: "David A. Cooley"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - OBDII tools

At 09:58 PM 8/24/99 -0400, you wrote:
>It doesn't have a plug under the hood for the scan tool. I have a scanner
>that I have used on others and the box says it doesn't work on 95 rangers.


Strange... Have to look in a service manual, as I thought they continued
the underhood diags thru 96

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:40:34 -0700
From: Kenny Paul
Subject: FTE Small - [Fwd: TIMING MARKS]

Howdy!

I hope that I'm not violating protocol here. This question was
asked on one of the lists that I run and I figured that the small
truck list would be the best place for Tony to get this question
answered, so I'm forwarding it...


> This Mail was sent to mini-truck by Ntty426020 aol.com.
> ******
>
> CAN ANYONE TELL ME THE TIMING MARKS FOR A 85 FORD V6 2.8LTR BRONCO2 I THINK
> ITS LIKE 10 DGREES OFF
> TONY

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Until Next Time, Party Safe!
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