From: owner-small-list-digest ford-trucks.com (small-list-digest)
To: small-list-digest ford-trucks.com
Subject: small-list-digest V3 #204
Reply-To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Sender: owner-small-list-digest ford-trucks.com
Errors-To: owner-small-list-digest ford-trucks.com
Precedence: bulk


small-list-digest Thursday, August 12 1999 Volume 03 : Number 204



=======================================================================
Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Ranger, Explorer, Bronco 2 and Aerostar
Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
To unsubscribe, send email to:
majordomo ford-trucks.com
with the words "unsubscribe small-list-digest" in the body of the
message.
=======================================================================
In this issue:

Re: FTE Small - 99 Ranger 4l litre
Re: FTE Small - 99 Ranger 4l litre
Re: FTE Small - 99 Ranger 4l litre
Re: FTE Small - 99 Ranger 4l litre
Re: FTE Small - 99 Ranger 4l litre
Re: FTE Small - 99 Ranger 4l litre
Re: FTE Small - The 1988 B-II with the chattery start..
Re: FTE Small - Seats
Re: FTE Small - Running on Alcohool - ethanol
Re: FTE Small - Replacing the Radius Arm Bushing
FTE Small - knocking 99 Ranger
Re: FTE Small - Shudder in Bronco 2
Re: FTE Small - knocking 99 Ranger
RE: FTE Small - knocking 99 Ranger
RE: FTE Small - knocking 99 Ranger
RE: FTE Small - knocking 99 Ranger
FTE Small - 84 Bronco II

=======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:03:18 -0400
From: "william.hickey"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 99 Ranger 4l litre

I had a 93 Ranger 2.3 before my 99 4.0 and have found that the 2.3 was much
quieter than the 4.0. When I sold my 93 it had 135k and the engine still
sounded like new ........ of course I always changed the oil every 2-3k miles.
Good luck with your 97 ... I think you'll find that the 2.3 is a VERY reliable
engine as long as you keep the oil changed.




owner-small-list ford-trucks.com on 08/08/99 02:01:54 AM
Please respond to small-list ford-trucks.com SMTP
To: small-list ford-trucks.com SMTP
cc:
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 99 Ranger 4l litre

Ijust bought a 97 mazda pu with a 2.3 liter engine... and me and several of
my friends know where you are coming from. At times it sounds just like a
diesel.. and it only has 26k miles on it. Anyways... I know what you mean!
== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html


== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:03:16 -0400
From: "william.hickey"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 99 Ranger 4l litre

Ditto for me ........ I have a 99 with the 4.0 engine and have had the same
experience ......... a very noisy engine including the intermittent racket
coming from the crankcase ...... a very diesel sounding engine for sure .......
but so far everyone has said that these sounds are normal for the 4.0 engine
.......... How about you other 4.0 owners ...... are they all really this noisy
?





owner-small-list ford-trucks.com on 08/07/99 08:27:05 PM
Please respond to small-list ford-trucks.com SMTP
To: small-list ford-trucks.com SMTP
cc:
Subject: FTE Small - 99 Ranger 4l litre

I bought a brand new 99 Ranger 4 litre V6. I had a 90 4 litre V6, (both
automatics) which was the best vehicle
I ever owned. It had lots of pep and the only engine noise was the intake
which sounded good.
My 99 sounds like a diesel at some speeds and sounds like the valves are
floating at higher speeds.
I want back to Ford thinking surely I was going to get a new engine out of
this. The mechanic test drove
it and didn't think it sounded out of the ordinary. I asked to test drive a
new one off the lot. Sure enough
it made the same racket as my 99. I was told that the exhaust system layout
was different on the 99's.
I was wondering if I could reduce the noise with dual exhaust or some other
way. I am not keeping this
truck for nine years , that is for sure.



== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html


== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:30:29 -0400
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 99 Ranger 4l litre

william.hickey wrote:
>
> Ditto for me ........ I have a 99 with the 4.0 engine and have had the same
> experience ......... a very noisy engine including the intermittent racket
> coming from the crankcase ...... a very diesel sounding engine for sure .......
> but so far everyone has said that these sounds are normal for the 4.0 engine
> .......... How about you other 4.0 owners ...... are they all really this noisy
> ?

Yes, my sisters explorer makes the same rachet. The SOHC is 10 times
better. When is Ford going to WAKE UP and put this in the Ranger. Even
the Jap truck 3.X liters are putting out more HP than the std 4.0 at
this point.

OX
== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:54:24 -0400
From: David Cooley
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 99 Ranger 4l litre

At 04:30 PM 8/11/1999 -0400, you wrote:

> Yes, my sisters explorer makes the same rachet. The SOHC is 10 times
>better. When is Ford going to WAKE UP and put this in the Ranger. Even
>the Jap truck 3.X liters are putting out more HP than the std 4.0 at
>this point.


heck,
look at GM... The 3800 V6 makes 215HP and almost 300 Lb/ft torque normally
aspirated. Supercharged it makes 240 or 245HP and 330-340 lb/ft... I had
the NA version in a Buick LeSabre (Not much lighter than the explorer!) and
routinely got 29-31 MPG on the freeway at 70-75 with the AC running... The
S10 Blazers use the 4.3L V6 and they were rated 200HP in 93, and are now
195HP. They also get 25MPG on the freeway...
One thing I have found out about Ford, is they like to drown the engine in
fuel and retard the timing to keep it from pinging, then have to use 2
catalytic convertors to get emissions clean enough to pass. My 93 Blazer I
used to have wound up with a JET chip, K&N air filter, Edelbrock TES
headers and a 3" exhaust with no cat... Emissions on a sniffer were clean
enough to pass, but it would fail visual due to the lack of a cat... It
also ran 14.5 sec's in the 1/4 mile and 0-60 was 7.1 sec's. (much improved
over stock!) and still got the 25 MPG.


===========================================================
David Cooley N5XMT Internet: N5XMT bellsouth.net
Packet: N5XMT KQ4LO.#INT.NC.USA.NA T.A.P.R. Member #7068
We are Borg... Prepare to be assimilated!
===========================================================

== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:30:36 -0400
From: "Anthony Rifici"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 99 Ranger 4l litre

>Ditto for me ........ I have a 99 with the 4.0 engine and have had the same
>experience ......... a very noisy engine including the intermittent racket
>coming from the crankcase ...... a very diesel sounding engine for sure
.......
>but so far everyone has said that these sounds are normal for the 4.0
engine
>.......... How about you other 4.0 owners ...... are they all really this
noisy
>?

>I had a 90 4 litre V6, (both automatics) which was the best vehicle
>I ever owned. It had lots of pep and the only engine noise was the intake
>which sounded good.


My 94 4.0L is the same way and I also thought that something was wrong
until I spent some time listening to other people's Rangers and Explorers in
parking lots and at stop lights. Anybody know what changed in the 4.0L
between 90 and 94? I know that 1993 was a body change and 1995 marked the
onset of OBDII and a few changes, but I didn't think much was different in
the drivetrain between 90 and 94.

Tony
94 Ranger, 4.0L, 5-Speed


== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:17:00 -0400
From: Phil Snider
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 99 Ranger 4l litre

I have a '98 w/ 4.0 and it does sound dieselly, most especially right after an oil
change. I'm using the recommended 5W30...Pennzoil.

Phil


"william.hickey" wrote:

> Ditto for me ........ I have a 99 with the 4.0 engine and have had the same
> experience ......... a very noisy engine including the intermittent racket
> coming from the crankcase ...... a very diesel sounding engine for sure .......
> but so far everyone has said that these sounds are normal for the 4.0 engine
> .......... How about you other 4.0 owners ...... are they all really this noisy
> ?
>
> owner-small-list ford-trucks.com on 08/07/99 08:27:05 PM
> Please respond to small-list ford-trucks.com SMTP
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com SMTP
> cc:
> Subject: FTE Small - 99 Ranger 4l litre
>
> I bought a brand new 99 Ranger 4 litre V6. I had a 90 4 litre V6, (both
> automatics) which was the best vehicle
> I ever owned. It had lots of pep and the only engine noise was the intake
> which sounded good.
> My 99 sounds like a diesel at some speeds and sounds like the valves are
> floating at higher speeds.
> I want back to Ford thinking surely I was going to get a new engine out of
> this. The mechanic test drove
> it and didn't think it sounded out of the ordinary. I asked to test drive a
> new one off the lot. Sure enough
> it made the same racket as my 99. I was told that the exhaust system layout
> was different on the 99's.
> I was wondering if I could reduce the noise with dual exhaust or some other
> way. I am not keeping this
> truck for nine years , that is for sure.
>
> == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html
>
> == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:48:48 EDT
From: Bakend aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - The 1988 B-II with the chattery start..

In a message dated 8/10/99 9:57:40 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
manic1 bellsouth.net writes:

> Well, it was back there again this morning when I went off to visit a
> > friend's house. The chattery feeling as though the rear end is popping
> > when I let out the clutch.
Might want to take a look at those rear leaf springs. My 87 Ranger did the
same thing and I eliminated it (mostly) by clamping the leaf pack where the
original straps had broken. My leaf springs were wrapping way up and then
turning loose again......then wrapping way up again etc.
D Baken
== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:12:25 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Seats

rgstein pacbell.net wrote:
>
> The normal
> contours of the seat make me recline too much with no solution. The
> seat reclines too much a full-upright position. Ford got it wrong: real
> wrong. One thing that I really hate is phony ergonomic chairs.

Amen.. Entirely too many vehicles of all makes do not go upright enough
for my taste. Of course as many vehicles as I get into every day with a
good percentage *reclined* maybe it's a moot point for drivers that
place comfort over safety.. Come to think of it a lot of the 'reclined'
seats are the same ones that deafen me when I start them and the
radio/amp kicks in. Driving blind AND deaf doesn't seem like defensive
driving to me.

> Something I tried successfully in my lamented Toyota was to shim the
> rear seat bolts with large washers, thereby rotating the seat to get a
> more upright sitting position. I keep meaning to do this with the
> Aerostar. Any suggestions?

Depending on finances I'm sure RECARO would have a seat that would suit
you, another possibility would be to have a machinist make new elbows
for the seat back with X number of degrees more bend; this way the seat
base would remain at the same level rather than sloping forward.

Tim
== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:22:54 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Running on Alcohool - ethanol

Famiglia Inoue wrote:
>

> The problem I am facing is the following - until the engine warms, it runs very poorly, gasping a lot, complete lack of fuel - as I guess programed to run on gas, which is "warmer", it really needed more fuel during the warming up period to be more smooth. One of the choices would be to increase the pump pressure, but that will bring all the mileage down - I that is not really desired - and the other is to remap the injection parameters, to have it deliver more fuel (pulses in the injector) until it warms up.

Just a thought.. try splicing a variable resistor into the wiring of
the coolant sensor to fool the computer into thinking the engine is
colder so it'll add more fuel. If this works during warm up, but hurts
fuel consumption you could eventually rig up a resistor of the
appropriate value with a switch and just have it on during warm up.
(This doesn't seem very clear.. if you're interested e-mail me and I'll
try to explain in much better detail.)

Tim
== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:47:48 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Replacing the Radius Arm Bushing

Bad Brian wrote:
>
> >I have an 87 Bronco II 4x4 and it was WELL worth the $135 dollars labor I
> >paid.

*I'd* pay it for someone else to do it and I'm a technician!

> It is not a fun job on these vehicles.

No it isn't.

> The explorer is very similar

Why in the world they put the converter so close to a rubber bushing is
beyond me.

> >I do all my work myself but this was one aggrevation I did not
> >need. Find someone to do the job for you. Preferably one that you can
> >watch like a small town shop where you know the mechanics.

Watch.. ugh... A double edged sword. Yes you see what's going on, but
my skilled hands turn to jelly and everything seems to go wrong when I'm
watched rather than left alone. I know very few techs that are
completely comfortable being watched. I dont mind if you come out and
talk for a bit to get to know me but leave me alone after that! ;-)
(Hey everybody has their own little phobia.. mine is strangers/crowds.)


> >been toying with the idea of doing them myself b/c Meineke wanted around
> >$200 for the job. I remember reading someone had them done at Goodyear for
> >around $70. Anyone else have any experience?? Please help.

If your weekend is worth less than $200 go for it. Otherwise give it a
shot and I hope the weather is a LOT cooler than it is in coastal NC as
you'll be sweating a lot. (Keep kiddies away too so they don't learn
new and inappropriate words...)

Tim
== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:43:10 -0400
From: "Joe Merchak"
Subject: FTE Small - knocking 99 Ranger

As some of you know, I have a problem with my 99 Ranger XLT 3.0 4X4. It has
an engine knock if I use any gas below 92. Well after taking to my selling
dealer 3 times without any luck, I took it to another dealer. It is now on
day 3 and they are still trying to figure out what is causing it ( at least
they know there is something wrong, unlike the original dealer) to knock.
They have had it on their $45k computer and it tells them there is nothing
wrong. They had the truck on the remote link, and the factory can't figure
it out. They told me I might get it back Friday and in the mean time I
driving a loaner (Contour). I thought this new OBDII computer was to be so
great, it has only caused me problems. Will keep you posted.

== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:55:30 CDT
From: "Bad Brian"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Shudder in Bronco 2

> > Larry
>
>I know you said you checked the U-joints, but did that include the front
>axle? My inner passenger side joint on the front is bad and gives me
>'odd' effects even in 2WD. ('85 B-II)
>
> >
the ujoint could do it when turning, and a bad or loose bearing or spindle
on the front will also do it. Lift each front tire off the ground
independently. check for play by grabbing the top and bottom of the tire
and shaking. checking for play.


_______________________________________________________________
Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.msn.com
== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 23:04:55 -0400
From: "David A. Cooley"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - knocking 99 Ranger

At 10:43 PM 8/11/99 -0400, you wrote:
>As some of you know, I have a problem with my 99 Ranger XLT 3.0 4X4. It has
>an engine knock if I use any gas below 92. Well after taking to my selling
>dealer 3 times without any luck, I took it to another dealer. It is now on
>day 3 and they are still trying to figure out what is causing it ( at least
>they know there is something wrong, unlike the original dealer) to knock.
>They have had it on their $45k computer and it tells them there is nothing
>wrong. They had the truck on the remote link, and the factory can't figure
>it out. They told me I might get it back Friday and in the mean time I
>driving a loaner (Contour). I thought this new OBDII computer was to be so
>great, it has only caused me problems. Will keep you posted.


With detonation, the only culprits are:
Poor octane (not in your case)
engine temp extremely hot
Extreme lean condition
crossfiring plug wires
deposits in the combustion chambers
oil leaking into the cylinders.


===========================================================
David Cooley N5XMT Internet: N5XMT bellsouth.net
Packet: N5XMT KQ4LO.#INT.NC.USA.NA T.A.P.R. Member #7068
Sponges grow in the ocean... Wonder how deep it would be if they didn't?!
===========================================================
== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 23:15:41 -0400
From: "Joe Merchak"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - knocking 99 Ranger

It's a new truck, has done it since I bought it......they think the computer
is screwed up

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-small-list ford-trucks.com
[mailto:owner-small-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of David A. Cooley
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:05 PM
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - knocking 99 Ranger

At 10:43 PM 8/11/99 -0400, you wrote:
>As some of you know, I have a problem with my 99 Ranger XLT 3.0 4X4. It
has
>an engine knock if I use any gas below 92. Well after taking to my selling
>dealer 3 times without any luck, I took it to another dealer. It is now on
>day 3 and they are still trying to figure out what is causing it ( at least
>they know there is something wrong, unlike the original dealer) to knock.
>They have had it on their $45k computer and it tells them there is nothing
>wrong. They had the truck on the remote link, and the factory can't figure
>it out. They told me I might get it back Friday and in the mean time I
>driving a loaner (Contour). I thought this new OBDII computer was to be so
>great, it has only caused me problems. Will keep you posted.


With detonation, the only culprits are:
Poor octane (not in your case)
engine temp extremely hot
Extreme lean condition
crossfiring plug wires
deposits in the combustion chambers
oil leaking into the cylinders.


===========================================================
David Cooley N5XMT Internet: N5XMT bellsouth.net
Packet: N5XMT KQ4LO.#INT.NC.USA.NA T.A.P.R. Member #7068
Sponges grow in the ocean... Wonder how deep it would be if they
didn't?!
===========================================================
== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 23:22:49 -0400
From: "David A. Cooley"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - knocking 99 Ranger

At 11:15 PM 8/11/99 -0400, you wrote:
>It's a new truck, has done it since I bought it......they think the computer
>is screwed up


That may very well be... Wonder if they've checked the CAL ID on the EEC-V
to make sure it's the proper one for you?
Could have been a factory slip... That could be trying to run too much
timing, not enough fuel etc.

===========================================================
David Cooley N5XMT Internet: N5XMT bellsouth.net
Packet: N5XMT KQ4LO.#INT.NC.USA.NA T.A.P.R. Member #7068
Sponges grow in the ocean... Wonder how deep it would be if they didn't?!
===========================================================
== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 23:43:32 -0400
From: "Joe Merchak"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - knocking 99 Ranger

Well I hope they looked at that, right now the factory has them performing
all these tests.

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-small-list ford-trucks.com
[mailto:owner-small-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of David A. Cooley
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:23 PM
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: RE: FTE Small - knocking 99 Ranger

At 11:15 PM 8/11/99 -0400, you wrote:
>It's a new truck, has done it since I bought it......they think the
computer
>is screwed up


That may very well be... Wonder if they've checked the CAL ID on the EEC-V
to make sure it's the proper one for you?
Could have been a factory slip... That could be trying to run too much
timing, not enough fuel etc.

===========================================================
David Cooley N5XMT Internet: N5XMT bellsouth.net
Packet: N5XMT KQ4LO.#INT.NC.USA.NA T.A.P.R. Member #7068
Sponges grow in the ocean... Wonder how deep it would be if they
didn't?!
===========================================================
== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 03:34:04 -0400
From: Tom Kirkbride
Subject: FTE Small - 84 Bronco II

Hey all:

I just bought a new Ford. This time an 84 Bronco II V6 4X4. It has a 3
speed auto with 133,000 miles. Its in exceptional shape for an 84. I....


To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts

Registration is free, easy and gives you access to more features.
If you are not registered, click here to register.
If you are already registered, you can login here.

If you are already logged in and are seeing this message, your web browser is blocking session cookies. Change your browser cookie settings to allow session cookies.




Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Policy - Jobs

This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.