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small-list-digest Monday, August 9 1999 Volume 03 : Number 201



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Small - 98 Explorer - UPDATE
Re: FTE Small - Switched 12 V outlet - Ranger
FTE Small - My 1988 B-II with the chattery start
re: FTE Small - list activity
Re: FTE Small - Switched 12 V outlet - Ranger
Re: FTE Small - Switched 12 V outlet - Ranger
FTE Small - Re: 99 Explorer Message Center Accuracy

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Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 10:50:01 +0100
From: "Neil Brownlee"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 98 Explorer - UPDATE

I have the codes at work Tim, but I'm not sure that they are ALL the codes
they got...one stating BANK 1 LEAN and the other stating BANK 2 LEAN. HEGO
sensors are +0.01v (i.e in range). I will post the P codes later. I suspect
they are lying to me, but hey!

Neil

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From: Tim Turner
To:
Sent: 08 August 1999 03:18
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 98 Explorer - UPDATE


>
>
>Neil Brownlee wrote:
>>
>> My rebuilt Explorer continues to cause concern. Since last week they have
>> been unable to stop the engine light from staying on.
>
>I presume the 'check engine' light?
>
>> They said it was a
>> manufacturers defect and changed the manifold gaskets. No change..they
>> change the HEGO sensors (which incidentaly reported within range on the
>> FDS/Star thing). No change.
>
>Sounds like BS to me..
>
>>
>> On a frame up rebuild...would you remove the exhaust manifolds??? I need
to
>> know, as if they did...they damaged them the first time...thus casuing
this
>> problem..thus making it THEIR problem and not the FMC....
>
>That depends on the man that did the work.. I look for which might be
>easier; sometimes the manifold(s) stay on and sometimes they dont.
>(During the engine removal..) I would certainly HOPE the manifolds
>came off at some point after the engine was out though. Any chance of
>getting what codes are reported by the computer and posting them for
>thoughts?
>
>Tim
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Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 10:05:13 CDT
From: "Bad Brian"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Switched 12 V outlet - Ranger

>Precedence: bulk
>
>
>
>Edwin B Yohe wrote:
> >
> > I just bought a radar detector for my 98 Ranger XLT extra cab.
> > Then I discovered that neither the lighter or the extra 12 volt outlet
> > are switched.
>
>Hack the plug off and go to a switched fuse in the fuse box. If you're
>determined to keep the lighter plug then go to Radio Shack and get an
>outlet and wire to suit your needs.
>
>Tim
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It also will not hurt to let it run all the time. I have had several radar
detectors that I still trust to this day and let mine run all the time
unless they get parked where they go off continously. It does not hurt a
thing to let them run. But hard wiring, as Tim said, wether on or switched
is a very good idea done neatly. But its all in opinion. :-)


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Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 10:20:02 -0700
From: Adam McLaughlin
Subject: FTE Small - My 1988 B-II with the chattery start

Hi Again,

Well this morning I was out getting greasy, working on the brakes...
(Now I know what Brake fluid tastes like!!) I flushed the entire system,
since I found out that when I disconnected the rear antilocks the
chattery start problem dissapeared.

Man! It took a LONG time to finally get clear fluid to come from the
right rear drum. That stuff was filthy! I was very surprised how dirty
it was. Took a lot of fluid and a lot of pumping, but it's finally
clear. I flushed all of the brakes, and then I went to work on the rear
ABS valve. It had air and dirty fluid in it too. After I flushed the
entire system and cleaned up the spills, the problem *seems* to have
gone away.

I hope it stays, I'll know for sure tomorrow morning when I go to leave
for work.

The wiring seems to be okay, allright and stuff. Making good contact and
all, no warning lights, and the computer is working.

Does anyone know how to get the diagnostic code from the computer?
Chiltons refers to the "black/orang" wire behind the washer pump. If I
disconnect it to ground it, the car won't start, even turn on or
anything. I look in teh harness for any other wires, but don't find
any... So, I just cleaned the connectors, put them back together and
then bled the system this morning.

Any ideas regarding the connector for the ABS computer?

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Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 10:38:45 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: re: FTE Small - list activity

>Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 21:24:11 -0400
>From: doggfarm erols.com
>Subject: FTE Small - list activity
>
>What happened to this list? I was a faithful subscriber awhile back (around
>the time Ken started splitting the lists) and was always impressed by the
>quality of interest and amount of traffic. I come back and it seems there
>is nobody here. I've received only 2 posts in 24 hours. What happened? Have
>the lists become so specialized that 2 posts per 24 hours for small trucks
>is the norm now?
>
>BTW, the Ford Truck page looks great, Ken. It had been a while since I last
>visited. I wasn't even sure it was the same page until I saw your name at
>the bottom. Things sure have changed since my last visit.

Summer is upon us and all the lists have slowed down. Its
harder to notice on the busier lists (61-79 list has so many
posts that it generates as many as 3 digests per day!).

Also, the web site message bbs has gotten popular. It
hasn't reduced the size of the lists, but it has slowed
their growth a little. I changed over the link for the
lists to blink on the main page last week and new
subscriptions have shot up.

Glad you like the new look of the site. I put in about
2 months worth of work getting it, the new chat, classifieds
and the bbs working together.

Glad to have you back!

Later,
Ken


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Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 14:10:33 -0700
From: "Alan Wilson"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Switched 12 V outlet - Ranger

How do you wire stuff to the fuse box on a 98 ranger? My supercab fuse box is
right next to the door. I do not see how anything could fit in there. Any
ideas?

Bad Brian wrote:

> >Precedence: bulk
> >
> >
> >
> >Edwin B Yohe wrote:
> > >
> > > I just bought a radar detector for my 98 Ranger XLT extra cab.
> > > Then I discovered that neither the lighter or the extra 12 volt outlet
> > > are switched.
> >
> >Hack the plug off and go to a switched fuse in the fuse box. If you're
> >determined to keep the lighter plug then go to Radio Shack and get an
> >outlet and wire to suit your needs.
> >
> >Tim
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>
> It also will not hurt to let it run all the time. I have had several radar
> detectors that I still trust to this day and let mine run all the time
> unless they get parked where they go off continously. It does not hurt a
> thing to let them run. But hard wiring, as Tim said, wether on or switched
> is a very good idea done neatly. But its all in opinion. :-)

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Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 21:04:25 CDT
From: "Bad Brian"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Switched 12 V outlet - Ranger

>How do you wire stuff to the fuse box on a 98 ranger? My supercab fuse box
>is
>right next to the door. I do not see how anything could fit in there. Any
>ideas?
>


You may have to go in behind the fuse box or take the radio out and try to
find space to run a wire from it. Just use a meter and get on the ignition
wire if you want it switched or the cont. wire for always on. This is
usually how i do it.


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Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 19:17:56 -0700
From: Richard Blakemore
Subject: FTE Small - Re: 99 Explorer Message Center Accuracy

Hi: New to the list. My second Explorer, '99 Limited, has a "Message
Center" in the console that claims to track mileage and fuel usage among
other things. Mine is anywhere from close to 22% low on fuel usage
which makes the rest of the calculations it performs useless. Ford
checks and says it is within the +/- 10% which passes muster for them.
Is this REALLY the low bar they set for themselves ? If I use 15
gallons, my truck might say it used 13.5 or 16.5 and still make Ford
happy. Any experience out there with getting the fuel consumption
tracking system accurate ? Not a big deal, but a nice toy.
Thanks, Richard Blakemore

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