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RE: FTE Small - TRansfer Cases and ATF
FTE Small - Ranger
Re: FTE Small - TRansfer Cases and ATF
RE: FTE Small - Ranger
Re: FTE Small - TRansfer Cases and ATF
Re: FTE Small - TRansfer Cases and ATF

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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:18:47 -0500
From: Mike Harms
Subject: RE: FTE Small - TRansfer Cases and ATF

My goodness, talk about an exercise in parts swapping. I hope you haven't
done all of that work just to track down the jumping! This type of problem
is a little hard to visualize, but I have to imagine if you would take the
vehicle to a good driveline shop they could track the cause of the jumping
down.

Sure, you can overfill a transfer case but overfilling wouldn't cause
jumping. Overfilling would just take a chance on blowing out a seal due to
higher than normal internal pressures. The Ranger/Bronco II use a transfer
case with a chain drive instead of all gears. If some teeth are missing off
gears or links are worn in the chain it could cause slipping which may feel
like popping.

Does this problem happen at all speeds or just when starting out? I would
think if something is slipping in the transfer case you should be able to
visually see this. Put a white chalk mark along the driveshaft and have
someone watch it while you let out the clutch. Normally it should be
spinning smoothly. If it seems to skip in time to the jumps then the
problem is somewhere ahead of that driveshaft.
(Transfercase/Transmission/Clutch/Flywheel). If the shaft is turning
smoothly, see if the same thing is happening at the tires. If the
driveshaft is smooth but the tires are jerking, then it's after the
driveshaft and in the Diff, or at the wheel ends. (Ring Gear, Clutch pack
on the positraction, worn axleshafts)

This is assuming the engine is producing smooth power and not dropping out
and in rapidly. Heck, this could even be a problem in the brakes, or front
end. Try and find a local shop to help you out in diagnosing the problem.

>Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 19:25:12 -0700
>From: Adam McLaughlin
>Subject: FTE Small - TRansfer Cases and ATF

>Can Transfer cases be over filled?

>During the last couple of months, I have been having some problems
>starting out in the morning. When I let the clutch out, the rear end
>jumps up as if I am popping the clutch about 8 to 10 times per second!
>To remedy this, I have replaced the clutch, throwout bearing, master and
>slave cylinders, flysheel, rear end and rear driveshaft. I have drained
>the transmission and put in fully synthetic fluid, and I have put
>synthetic in the new positraction rear end.
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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 10:06:24 -0700
From: "Hans Luckoff"
Subject: FTE Small - Ranger

Does anyone know if the 99 Ranger with the 3.0 V6 and Automatic comes
standard equipped with a transmission oil cooler. I am trying to set one up
to pull a 17 ft Travel Trailer that weighs 2800 lbs. I am trying to find out
if this is feasible and also what I need to put on the truck. TIA
Hans

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Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 17:38:35 CDT
From: "Bad Brian"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - TRansfer Cases and ATF

If you have the C.V. type drive shaft this is more than likely where your
problem is. If you do, replace it with a U-Joint type available from Dana
or your local carquest. I replaced five until i got the dana and have not
proken one yet. VERY strong setup. If you have this type already then you
might have rear-end problems suck as missing teeth. I did this to mine too.
The rear ends are not real strong but once you have problems just go to
the junkyard and get another one. make sure it has the antilock in it.

>From: Adam McLaughlin
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>Can Transfer cases be over filled?
>
>The truck here is a 1988 BII, 2.9, 5 speed. 4x4.
>
>During the last couple of months, I have been having some problems
>starting out in the morning. When I let the clutch out, the rear end
>jumps up as if I am popping the clutch about 8 to 10 times per second!
>To remedy this, I have replaced the clutch, throwout bearing, master and
>slave cylinders, flysheel, rear end and rear driveshaft. I have drained
>the transmission and put in fully synthetic fluid, and I have put
>synthetic in the new positraction rear end.
>
>The last thing that I haven't tried until now was the Transfer case. I
>recently opened the fill plug and found that it was overfilled by a good
>two cups of fluid! I let the excess drain out and then I put some more
>in until it started to pour out, then I put the fill plug back in. Could
>this be causing my rear end hopping?
>
>Any ideas welcome...
>
>Adam
>
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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:02:18 -0400
From: "Joe Merchak"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Ranger

I have an external transmission cool. I own a 99 XLT 3.0 Auto 4X4 Off road
with extended cab.

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Subject: FTE Small - Ranger

Does anyone know if the 99 Ranger with the 3.0 V6 and Automatic comes
standard equipped with a transmission oil cooler. I am trying to set one up
to pull a 17 ft Travel Trailer that weighs 2800 lbs. I am trying to find out
if this is feasible and also what I need to put on the truck. TIA
Hans

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Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 19:03:09 -0700
From: Adam McLaughlin
Subject: Re: FTE Small - TRansfer Cases and ATF

Hi Mike,

The problem ONLY happens right after I start it in the morning, while the rig is
very cold. It doesn't happen a little bit after I get moving, maybe a mile or so
after going down the road. If I have to stop between the time of one mile and
from starting, I experience this.

It isn't in the engine, the motor doesn't cough or even slow down while this is
happening. I think it is happening after my brand new clutch down.

The rear end is a brand new unit with posi, and I had the same results before
and after the new rear end was put in. There is also a new double cardigan
driveshaft in the truck.

I also installed a brand new front end in this truck, I put some new lower ball
joints, and tie rod ends on about two thousand miles ago... It could be the
brake lines, though. Those front lines don't look so spic and span as I would
have liked them to be. they are 11 years old, after all.....

I'm bewildered.... Maybe It's time that I replace the brake lines?

Adam

Mike Harms wrote:

> My goodness, talk about an exercise in parts swapping. I hope you haven't
> done all of that work just to track down the jumping! This type of problem
> is a little hard to visualize, but I have to imagine if you would take the
> vehicle to a good driveline shop they could track the cause of the jumping
> down.
>
> Sure, you can overfill a transfer case but overfilling wouldn't cause
> jumping. Overfilling would just take a chance on blowing out a seal due to
> higher than normal internal pressures. The Ranger/Bronco II use a transfer
> case with a chain drive instead of all gears. If some teeth are missing off
> gears or links are worn in the chain it could cause slipping which may feel
> like popping.
>
> Does this problem happen at all speeds or just when starting out? I would
> think if something is slipping in the transfer case you should be able to
> visually see this. Put a white chalk mark along the driveshaft and have
> someone watch it while you let out the clutch. Normally it should be
> spinning smoothly. If it seems to skip in time to the jumps then the
> problem is somewhere ahead of that driveshaft.
> (Transfercase/Transmission/Clutch/Flywheel). If the shaft is turning
> smoothly, see if the same thing is happening at the tires. If the
> driveshaft is smooth but the tires are jerking, then it's after the
> driveshaft and in the Diff, or at the wheel ends. (Ring Gear, Clutch pack
> on the positraction, worn axleshafts)
>
> This is assuming the engine is producing smooth power and not dropping out
> and in rapidly. Heck, this could even be a problem in the brakes, or front
> end. Try and find a local shop to help you out in diagnosing the problem.
>
> >Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 19:25:12 -0700
> >From: Adam McLaughlin
> >Subject: FTE Small - TRansfer Cases and ATF
>
> >Can Transfer cases be over filled?
>
> >During the last couple of months, I have been having some problems
> >starting out in the morning. When I let the clutch out, the rear end
> >jumps up as if I am popping the clutch about 8 to 10 times per second!
> >To remedy this, I have replaced the clutch, throwout bearing, master and
> >slave cylinders, flysheel, rear end and rear driveshaft. I have drained
> >the transmission and put in fully synthetic fluid, and I have put
> >synthetic in the new positraction rear end.
> ...
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Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 19:04:58 -0700
From: Adam McLaughlin
Subject: Re: FTE Small - TRansfer Cases and ATF

Hey Brian,

Yeah, my new driveshaft is a double cardigan U joint type. I also have a brand
new rear end with posi, and it sports the rear antilock setup....

Still bewildered....

Adam

Bad Brian wrote:

> If you have the C.V. type drive shaft this is more than likely where your
> problem is. If you do, replace it with a U-Joint type available from Dana
> or your local carquest. I replaced five until i got the dana and have not
> proken one yet. VERY strong setup. If you have this type already then you
> might have rear-end problems suck as missing teeth. I did this to mine too.
> The rear ends are not real strong but once you have problems just go to
> the junkyard and get another one. make sure it has the antilock in it.
>
> >From: Adam McLaughlin
> >Reply-To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> >To: small list
> >Subject: FTE Small - TRansfer Cases and ATF
> >Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 19:25:12 -0700
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> >Can Transfer cases be over filled?
> >
> >The truck here is a 1988 BII, 2.9, 5 speed. 4x4.
> >
> >During the last couple of months, I have been having some problems
> >starting out in the morning. When I let the clutch out, the rear end
> >jumps up as if I am popping the clutch about 8 to 10 times per second!
> >To remedy this, I have replaced the clutch, throwout bearing, master and
> >slave cylinders, flysheel, rear end and rear driveshaft. I have drained
> >the transmission and put in fully synthetic fluid, and I have put
> >synthetic in the new positraction rear end.
> >
> >The last thing that I haven't tried until now was the Transfer case. I
> >recently opened the fill plug and found that it was overfilled by a good
> >two cups of fluid! I let the excess drain out and then I put some more
> >in until it started to pour out, then I put the fill plug back in. Could
> >this be causing my rear end hopping?
> >
> >Any ideas welcome...
> >
> >Adam
> >
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