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small-list-digest Sunday, August 1 1999 Volume 03 : Number 193



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Small - 5 Spd Auto Woes...
Re: FTE Small - 87 Bronco II
Re: FTE Small - '88 BII Airbox
Re: FTE Small - A/C problems
FTE Small - 99 Ranger Aircleaner Removal
FTE Small - Re: My Explorer..a more detailed account!
Re: FTE Small - '88 BII Airbox

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:58:14 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 5 Spd Auto Woes...

"David A. Cooley" wrote:
>
> Well,
> Don't need to worry about the 5 speed auto problems anymore...
> Dealer admitted they couldn't fix it and didn't want to spend anymore time
> on it...

Damn good reason to avoid automatics huh?


Tim ;-)
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:02:46 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 87 Bronco II

Bad Brian wrote:
>

> a small c-4/302 flexplate if anyone has one they would part with. Having
> lots of trouble finding one. Thanks for any help.

Not sure of your meaning but if one from a 1980 LTD with a FMX would
work there's one on my parts car you can have for shipping costs and
Zero money.


Tim

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:08:55 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - '88 BII Airbox

Rngr86STX aol.com wrote:
>
> Ive also heard talk in here about cooler air stepping up the HP a little.
> Thats the only reason I havent done any cuttin or drillin. Im sure the air
> inside the engine compartment is much hotter that the air its taking in from
> the outside.
> On the same note, (people dont laugh I have a wild imagination)has anyone
> heard of anyone runnong a small hose(say 1/2" heater hose) from somewhere in
> the A/C airflow to the intake just before the throttle? Ive always noticed my
> 2.9L runs MUCH better in the winter than the summer.

Now that's just an interesting idea! There are sensors for the temp. of
the incoming air and of the engine itself; I'd be interested to see what
happened if you 'fooled' the intake sensor by blowing cool air it. I've
known people to splice in a resistor on the coolant sensor to make the
computer think it was cooler to get a richer mixture...

Tim
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:22:14 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - A/C problems

"Ucen, Thomas, PRE" wrote:
>
>
> My questions are: that piece of melted hose is connecting two metal tubes.
> Can it be simply replaced or is it fastened with hydraulic fittings that you
> cannot disconnect?

*IF* you can find a shop capable of making it's own hoses yes. With
proper crimping tools it's not hard to make a new hose using the
existing metal fittings. Beware hydraulic shops; what you get may not
be usable for A/C I can relate horror stories (and good experiences)
from doing so.

> I see no way any of the hoses can be disconnected and
> that the whole setup must be replaced - compressor to condensor and
> compressor to evaporator. Why does that steering part (I can see power
> steering lines going in and out) get that hot it melts away lines that are
> in contact with it? Is that normal?

Shouldn't be so close that damage would happen.. Here's a real good
site about A/C oriented towards the DIY or wondering.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.aircondition.com/wwwboard/index.htm You should find your
answers there. :-)

Tim
>
> Thanks for any input!
> Tom
> 1993 Aerostar 3.0L
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:45:44 -0400
From: "Joe Merchak"
Subject: FTE Small - 99 Ranger Aircleaner Removal

Does any one know how to remove the lower housing of a 99 Ranger air
cleaner? I was looking at it today, an the air inlet tube really narrows
down. I want to remove this tube to get more air into the box.

Thanks

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:22:49 -0300
From: "Willliam A. Hopkins"
Subject: FTE Small - Re: My Explorer..a more detailed account!

If you haven't yet signed a release for the vehicle, effectively
releasing the insurance company from the claim, then what's the
reason they're backing off from helping you resolve your problem.
If you have released the insurance company by signing the
settlement claim, then why would they want to help you now, since
they don't have anything to do? The claim is settled.
Now you probably only have recourse against the repair shop, not
FOMOCO. FOMOCO allowed you to purchase a vehicle you were
satisfied with before it was damaged. FOMOCO is not running
repair shops, over here, that's the domain of the dealers. Even
FORD dealer's repair shops are free to work on any cars they
chose to take in, regardless of make. Since FOMOCO does offer
training, some of the dealer mechanics get some FOMOCO training,
but can also get trained other places.
Some terms you've used that I don't understand, but then again I
only speak the American dialect of English, not true English,
are:

"wrong colour down the nearside"

"Ford garage after a lot of wrangling with the insurance company,
because Ford are not a recognised agent of theirs."
(I am figuring this out to mean that no Ford dealers have a
contract with the insurance company, you're right, it takes some
wrangling to get a repair shop that is out of the insurance
company's system, but even here, it can be done. Maybe because
the shop does such shoddy work, they can't get insurance
companies to approve them for repair contract status???)

"RAC recover" (Is this the same as a tow truck?"

"you can't have a replacement vehicle . . . because yours isn't
taxed"
(Are they claiming that it's not broken, even if {see above} it
had to be towed in?
If that's the case, have the guy drive it back to you.

"Garbage in act and trying to profit from it" (I've got no clue
what this means).

Remember, to FOrd MOtor COmpany, dealers are just that, guys that
sell their cars. They don't have much to say about the repair
side of the business, not even here. While it's true that
there's a closer relationship than I've just described, it mostly
concerns warranty agreements and really doesn't apply to your
case. I find it quite interesting that the shop would tackle the
work you've described had to be done and that the insurance
company didn't consider the damage to amount to a total loss.
Labor must be really cheap over there.

> On March 12th 1999, my shiny green not so un-offroaded Exploder was run off
> the road in the dark, on a rainy night by some pratt in a Mondeo driving
> down the wrong side of the road...upshot was 1 new chassis, new suspension,
> new steering rack and new nearside panels.....
>
> March 19th, said Exploder booked into a Ford garage after a lot of wrangling
> with the insurance company, because Ford are not a recognised agent of
> theirs...it arrived. I had to have it repaired there, because otherwise my
> extra cover was invalid. This annoyed said insurance company who washed
> their hands of the repair, claiming that they would only pay the bill.
>
> After many many many telephone calls, 2 chassis, several visits to the
> service department, 3 test drives, a forced inspection by the AA (which
> incidently was rubbish) it was delivered to my house some 21 weeks later,
> i.e. Friday 23rd. It had shoddy paint finish, the paint ws the wrong colour
> down the nearside, scratched glass, a torn tyre, badly fitted
> windscreen...the list was endless. I contact the insurance company and they
> don;t want to know. I shout scream kick threaten...I get a call back, a
> really friendly guy calms me down and takes on the case. 2 days later they
> inspect my vehicle and agree the work is crap.
>
> After their visit, I reverse the Explorer back up the drive. Since delivery
> it has down 200 yards..no more, no less - having to tax as yet! Here's what
> happened :-
>
> Rumble Rumble....crunch (brakes)...grind (dunno)...hisssssssss...clunk
> clunk..*check engine light*
>
> Got out checked the underside, water p*ssing out of the exhaust at the
> U-bolt. Next morning complained like hell, RAC recover said Exploder and
> it's taken back to the garage. This is where I lost it...
>
> The garage rang Ford Customer Care and claimed that there was no fault..as
> they couldn't find one..and they told the insurance company the same thing -
> good logic eh?. I rang up, shouted, and learned that the exhausts are
> SUPPOSED to leak water all along them, the hissing is a characteristic of my
> gearbox NOW (didn;t ever hiss before)..and after 2 days the computer still
> could not decode the engine warning....and to top it all...you can't have a
> replacement vehicle at the moment Mr Brownlee because your's isn;t
> taxed....ARGHHHH!
>
> There is apparently only one Ford garage in the whole of the UK. In
> Dagenham, all the others are pretend and don;t count as real Ford repairers.
> So I was told. I can't have my vehicle exchanged by Ford because it was
> repaired by Polar Ford, and not Ford Motor Company...er logic, what logic?
> Garbage in act and trying to profit from it.....we shall see what happens!
> And I've reported them to the Data Protection people for hiding behind the
> act and trying to profit from it.....we shall see what happens!
>
> Neil
>
> Fuming in Northampton

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:08:39 CDT
From: "Bad Brian"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - '88 BII Airbox

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>Rngr86STX aol.com wrote:
> >
> > Ive also heard talk in here about cooler air stepping up the HP a
>little.
> > Thats the only reason I havent done any cuttin or drillin. Im sure the
>air
> > inside the engine compartment is much hotter that the air its taking in
>from
> > the outside.
> > On the same note, (people dont laugh I have a wild imagination)has
>anyone
> > heard of anyone runnong a small hose(say 1/2" heater hose) from
>somewhere in
> > the A/C airflow to the intake just before the throttle? Ive always
>noticed my
> > 2.9L runs MUCH better in the winter than the summer.
>
>Now that's just an interesting idea! There are sensors for the temp. of
>the incoming air and of the engine itself; I'd be interested to see what
>happened if you 'fooled' the intake sensor by blowing cool air it. I've
>known people to splice in a resistor on the coolant sensor to make the
>computer think it was cooler to get a richer mixture...
>
>Tim
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What about actually running cooler air into it. Like a small hose or
something from the blower box. This would give you true cold air in it and
serve the original purpose.


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