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In this issue:

Re: FTE Small - Stall after starting
FTE Small - Power mirror meets truck tire at 75 mph
Re: FTE Small - Power mirror meets truck tire at 75 mph
FTE Small - Transmission Drain Plug
Re: FTE Small - Transmission Drain Plug
FTE Small - new tires
RE: FTE Small - Stall after starting
Re: FTE Small - new tires
FTE Small - Help
Re: FTE Small - Stall after starting
Re: FTE Small - Stall after starting
Re: FTE Small - Power mirror meets truck tire at 75 MPH
FTE Small - Code 335 Help?
Re: FTE Small - Power mirror down to $25
RE: FTE Small - Code 335 Help?
RE: FTE Small - Mass Air Flow Sensor
RE: FTE Small - Mass Air Flow Sensor

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:03:15 -0400
From: "David A. Cooley"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Stall after starting

At 12:05 AM 7/21/99 -0500, you wrote:

>Since I have had my 88 Ranger (2.9L, 100k) when I start the engine, it revs
>to 1200 rpm for 2-4 seconds and then drops back to idle.
>
>Lately, I have been having the following problem when it is hot and the
>truck has sat for more than 5-6 hours (morning and after work). After the
>truck revs to 1200 or so and then backs off instead of staying at an idle,
>it stalls. It will do this several times if I let it, but usually stops
>after I hit the gas a time or two.


Vacuum leak, bad PCV valve, throttle body dirty and gunked up, Idle air
control motor sirty and gunked up.

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:21:30 PDT
From: "David Goodwin"
Subject: FTE Small - Power mirror meets truck tire at 75 mph

I think it was David Cooley who said:

"You know, Insurance on vehicles have 2 deductibles...
Comprehensive, which
covers non-collision related damage (windshield Vs rock, Mirror
Vs. tire
etc) is usually much lower than the collision deductible. Also,
you may be
able to sweet talk the insurance company to cover it under
uninsured/underinsured motorist, which usually has 0 deductible."

Uninsured/underinsured motorist doesn't cover damage to your vehicle. It
covers damage to you. It is for medical costs. The damage to the vehicle
from debris on the road would most likely be covered by comprehensive. I
could carry a different deductable than collision, but that is determined by
the individual when he purchases his insurance.

Just thought I'd throw that in...



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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:00:43 -0400
From: David Cooley
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Power mirror meets truck tire at 75 mph

At 05:21 AM 7/21/99 -0700, you wrote:

>Uninsured/underinsured motorist doesn't cover damage to your vehicle. It
>covers damage to you. It is for medical costs. The damage to the vehicle
>from debris on the road would most likely be covered by comprehensive.

Hmm...
Got "run over" by a 3/4 ton pickup driven by a 14 year old... made a right
turn into me 4 times before he figured out I was there...
Uninsured/Underinsured paid for the repairs to my vehicle... all $4500.00
of them

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:06:21 -0700
From: Adam McLaughlin
Subject: FTE Small - Transmission Drain Plug

Next Week I plan to flush teh transmission of my 1988 B2, and install
synthetic fluid. When I go underneath the transmission, I notice that
teh drain plug has a wet circle of gear lubricant around the drain plug.

As I understand it, synthetic fluid is much more slippery than the
regular stuff. Now, can I put some gasket sealant on the drain plug
before I screw it in there to stop the seepage? Would this be a bad idea
due to particles breaking off and causing ruckus inside the
transmission?

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Adam

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:13:34 -0400
From: David Cooley
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Transmission Drain Plug

At 07:06 AM 7/21/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Next Week I plan to flush teh transmission of my 1988 B2, and install
>synthetic fluid. When I go underneath the transmission, I notice that
>teh drain plug has a wet circle of gear lubricant around the drain plug.
>
>As I understand it, synthetic fluid is much more slippery than the
>regular stuff. Now, can I put some gasket sealant on the drain plug
>before I screw it in there to stop the seepage? Would this be a bad idea
>due to particles breaking off and causing ruckus inside the
>transmission?


This must be a manual trans, right? The auto's don't have drain plugs from
the factory. Sure it's not the oil pan for the engine you're looking at?
They have O-Rings and/or o-ring washers that go on the drainplugs and they
wear out over the years as they are taken on and off the car.
You can get a replacement from the HELP rack at any auto store for a couple
dollars

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:18:01 -0600
From: "Steinbrook, Steve/PHL"
Subject: FTE Small - new tires

I want to install a set of Goodrich Radial All-Terrain TA/KO's on my 1996
Explorer Sport. I have the stock 15" rims with 235/75 tires. I wanted to
get a larger size tire, preferably the 31 X 10.50 or at least the 30 X 9.50.
I was told that I would have to get new rims because the stocks were not
wide enough. Is this true and does it have to do with the redesign of these
TA/KO's? Do I have to stick with the 235/75's? I was told by a local tire
dealer that the rims pull in on the tire causing it to not sit flat. If the
rims are 15 X 7, shouldn't they be wide enough at least for the 30 X 9.50's?
The BFGoodrich web site recommends a rim width range of 6.5-8.5 for the 30 X
9.50 tires and a range of 7.0-9.0 for the 31 X 10.50 tires. Any advice
would be greatly appreciated.

Stephen Steinbrook
215-563-4244 ext 322
ssteinbr ch2m.com

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:34:03 -0500
From: "Campbell, Carl "
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Stall after starting

Greetings Mr. Blanchard:
I own an 88 Bronco II XLT w/ 170K miles. I'm experiencing similar symtoms. I
believe this problem could be caused by a bad "air charge temp sensor" or
"engine coolant temp sensor." Does your engine run well after warming up ?
I believe what's happening (at least in my case) is that the EEC IV
processor doesn't "know" that the engine is cold and sets up the fuel/air
ratios too lean for a cold engine, thereby, causing it to starve. I plan to
change both of these sensors within the next week and I'll report back if
this corrects. BTW, have you changed out the exhaust O2 sensor? I did this
last week after learning that they wear out at about 70k miles. It greatly
improved throttle reponse and power output. Before, with moderate throttle
in overdrive, the engine acted as if the timing was moving around. What was
happening here was that the processor was getting erroneous O2 readings and,
again, couldn't set the correct F/A ratio for the driving conditions.
Carl

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> From: C R Blanchard[SMTP:cblanch siue.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 12:05 AM
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE Small - Stall after starting
>
>
> Since I have had my 88 Ranger (2.9L, 100k) when I start the engine, it
> revs
> to 1200 rpm for 2-4 seconds and then drops back to idle.
>
> Lately, I have been having the following problem when it is hot and the
> truck has sat for more than 5-6 hours (morning and after work). After the
> truck revs to 1200 or so and then backs off instead of staying at an idle,
> it stalls. It will do this several times if I let it, but usually stops
> after I hit the gas a time or two.
>
> Any quick ideas as to what could be causing this?
>
> Thanks,
> Rick
>
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:35:37 -0400
From: David Cooley
Subject: Re: FTE Small - new tires

At 09:18 AM 7/21/99 -0600, you wrote:
>I want to install a set of Goodrich Radial All-Terrain TA/KO's on my 1996
>Explorer Sport. I have the stock 15" rims with 235/75 tires. I wanted to
>get a larger size tire, preferably the 31 X 10.50 or at least the 30 X 9.50.
>I was told that I would have to get new rims because the stocks were not
>wide enough. Is this true and does it have to do with the redesign of these
>TA/KO's? Do I have to stick with the 235/75's? I was told by a local tire
>dealer that the rims pull in on the tire causing it to not sit flat. If the
>rims are 15 X 7, shouldn't they be wide enough at least for the 30 X 9.50's?
>The BFGoodrich web site recommends a rim width range of 6.5-8.5 for the 30 X
>9.50 tires and a range of 7.0-9.0 for the 31 X 10.50 tires. Any advice
>would be greatly appreciated.


The tire installer will want the wider rim to alleviate possible problems
and liability down the road. I talked a shop into installing a set of
295-50-15's on a set of 15X7 rims a few years back and they made me sign a
release stating they were not liable for ANY problems I may encounter due
to the narrow rim width.


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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:49:07 -0400
From: Robert Jenkins
Subject: FTE Small - Help

I've got a '94 Explorer, 4.0. When the "Check Engine" light came on I went
to the code reader and got 335, 327 & 332 trouble codes with KOEO. Also, I
got 326 KOER. This all points to the EGR valve/sensor/voltage. My
question is how do I diagnose which component it really is? I'm sure that
there is a way to check each of these with a multimeter but my Haynes
manual doesn't even mention any of these EGR components.

Any ideas, thanks.

Rob

Robert Jenkins
(516) 771-1200
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:37:40 -0700
From: "Alan Wilson"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Stall after starting

How do you prevent such things from happening? Or is it inevitable?


>
>
> Vacuum leak, bad PCV valve, throttle body dirty and gunked up, Idle air
> control motor sirty and gunked up.

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:22:41 -0400
From: "David A. Cooley"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Stall after starting

At 08:37 AM 7/21/99 -0700, you wrote:
>How do you prevent such things from happening? Or is it inevitable?


Eventually, from heat and age the vacuum hoses can crack/split... Basic
maintenance and looking them over every so often and replacing them when
they get bad... PCV valve is a maintenance item that is supposed to be
changed according to the maintenance schedule... not sure if it's 30,000
miles or 60,000 miles...
Throttle body and Idle Air Control motors get dirty with miles from oil
fumes from the PCV... GUNK makes a "air intake and throttle body" cleaner
safe for coated TB's like the explorer for $1.99/can... just spray a
little, wipe it out, start and let idle for a minute or two, spray again,
start & run, repeat until the can is empty... spray some into the idle air
control motor as well...

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:36:57 -0500
From: Guy Anderson
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Power mirror meets truck tire at 75 MPH

Sven Setterdahl wrote:
>
> > Subject: FTE Small - Power mirror meets truck tire at 75 MPH
> >
> > Here's the question: What are the chances that I can get away with just
> > buying the glass for the mirror ($60 as opposed to $200 for the whole
> > thing)? Is the glass supposed to come out the way it did or did I strip out
> > the threads on the electric motor?

I just saw stick-on replacement mirrors at Advance Auto Parts. Did
not notice the price, but the quality looked good. Hope this helps.
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:43:44 -0500
From: Guy Anderson
Subject: FTE Small - Code 335 Help?

Just purchased 94 Explorer 4wd 4.0. Scanner returns only code 335,
and neither the scanner manual nor Haynes help to identify or even
locate EGR components which could cause this code. Only other
symptoms are low (?) mpg: 15-17 mpg on first few tanks. Any & all
suggestions will be welcome to this newbie!

(Only mods so far are K & N filter and Maremont Vortex muffler, plus
new plugs/wires.)

Thanks!

Guy A.
Ripley, TN
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:28:19 -0400
From: "Anthony Rifici"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Power mirror down to $25

>Tony,
>
>Check with almost any commercial/residential glass company. They should be
>able to cut a piece of mirror to fit for peanuts compared to the $60 price
>mentioned.
>
>Craig
>


Just did that today and I found out some interesting things after a long
conversation with a commercial/residential glass company. Apparently, the
mirror glass that these companies stock is not suitable for the weather
conditions an automotive mirror would see. He said that it would not last
more than a couple months before it wore away. I thought if it would last
in my bathroom, it would last on the side of my truck, but I was mistaken.
The mirror that is used on automobiles is usually only stocked by a few auto
glass companies that also do mirrors. I called the only auto glass company
that advertised under mirrors and found that they can get replacement mirror
glass and install it for $25. I think that I'm going to give that a try.
Also, I don't think that mirrors count under my $0 glass deductible and
I am sure that I still have to pay the deductible under my un/under-insured
motorist coverage.

Thanks,
Tony
94 Ranger Supercab, 4.0L, 5-Speed

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:42:58 -0400
From: Robert Jenkins
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Code 335 Help?

Wow this is weird....I've got the same situation that's why I joined this
group. First off I think that gas mileage is normal, mine is identical,
I've got 82k on it now and have had it for about 10k. My check engine
light just went on and I get the 335 code, 327 and 332. I just spoke with
a dealer contact of mine and he says that these codes indicate that the EGR
system simply isn't getting the correct voltage, which means that it's
99.9% chance that the DPFE is bad. Apparently that's the silver box near
the EGR valve that has one electrical connector and two hoses going to it.

Before I start changing parts I would like to be sure that that is the
problem, can anyone tell me how to check this with a multimeter?

Also, is that mileage normal?


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Work (516) 771-1200
Home (516) 328-3039
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From: Guy Anderson [SMTP:ganderso lctn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 5:44 PM
To: Ford Trucks List
Subject: FTE Small - Code 335 Help?

Just purchased 94 Explorer 4wd 4.0. Scanner returns only code 335,
and neither the scanner manual nor Haynes help to identify or even
locate EGR components which could cause this code. Only other
symptoms are low (?) mpg: 15-17 mpg on first few tanks. Any & all
suggestions will be welcome to this newbie!

(Only mods so far are K & N filter and Maremont Vortex muffler, plus
new plugs/wires.)

Thanks!

Guy A.
Ripley, TN
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:46:16 -0600
From: "Kenneth St. John"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Mass Air Flow Sensor

I purchased this for my '91 Explorer a couple of years ago and have used in intermittently. When first installed (battery disconnected)the RPM's fluctuate +-200 from Idle. Once the engine "learns" it seems to settle down. However, it seems that I lack power unless I punch it (dirty injectors???). If I go back to my stock MAF the engine doesn't have that kick when punched down but runs better at the start(???). It also seems worse in colder weather so I've been swapping it in and out depending on the season. I used to get severe pinging until I put some extra holes in my Air Box (K & N filter also).
I noticed in the Latest performance magazine that Granatelli Motor Sports has included a MAF sensor also that provides a more accurate fuel mixture and timing calibration. This might be the one to purchase (it lists for $264.10)as opposed to the standard 70mm bored out MAF that requires the old MAF sensor.
Anyway, good luck with this.

Ken
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From: Ray Scheidnes
Reply-To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:56:09 -0700

>I was recently told that my '94 Ranger 4x4 has a 70mm MAF from the factory.
Stock hp is around 165 at 4500 rpm, I believe.

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> From: Eric Davis[SMTP:edavis1 mindspring.com]
> Reply To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 7:33 AM
> To: Ranger
> Subject: FTE Small - Mass Air Flow Sensor
>
> Does anyone out there have a 70mm MAF. I would like to know how much hp
> did
> you feel. Was it a good thing to get.
>
> Eric Davis
> 97 EB Expedition
> 99 F-150 Lariat
> 98 4x4 Ranger,
> Custom Exhaust with Edlebrock muffler,
> Superchip, K&N.
>
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:42:05 -0700
From: Ray Scheidnes
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Mass Air Flow Sensor

Well, I finally put together all the little extra pieces that I needed to
make the KKM air induction kit fit into my "94 Ranger 4.0. I can't believe
that these custom kits would advertise that this is supposed to be a quick,
easy way to hop up the power. Anyway, now I'm ready to put the kit in, just
gotta find the time. I think I'll wait to see how the motor runs after
putting in the KKM, before thinking about adding in a larger MAF.
I've heard a lot of good things from people here who have the KKM kit, so, I
hope it works for me!
Can anyone with the KKM kit (or something similar) say if the kit will
reduce pinging?

> ----------
> From: Kenneth St. John[SMTP:ken samuel.integrityonline3.com]
> Reply To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 5:46 PM
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: RE: FTE Small - Mass Air Flow Sensor
>
> I purchased this for my '91 Explorer a couple of years ago and have used
> in intermittently. When first installed (battery disconnected)the RPM's
> fluctuate +-200 from Idle. Once the engine "learns" it seems to settle
> down. However, it seems that I lack power unless I punch it (dirty
> injectors???). If I go back to my stock MAF the engine doesn't have that
> kick when punched down but runs better at the start(???). It also seems
> worse in colder weather so I've been swapping it in and out depending on
> the season. I used to get severe pinging until I put some extra holes in
> my Air Box (K & N filter also).
> I noticed in the Latest performance magazine that Granatelli Motor Sports
> has included a MAF sensor also that provides a more accurate fuel mixture
> and timing calibration. This might be the one to purchase (it lists for
> $264.10)as opposed to the standard 70mm bored out MAF that requires the
> old MAF sensor.
> Anyway, good luck with this.
>
> Ken
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Ray Scheidnes
> Reply-To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:56:09 -0700
>
> >I was recently told that my '94 Ranger 4x4 has a 70mm MAF from the
> factory.
> Stock hp is around 165 at 4500 rpm, I believe.
>
> > ----------
> > From: Eric Davis[SMTP:edavis1 mindspring.com]
> > Reply To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 7:33 AM
> > To: Ranger
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