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small-list-digest Wednesday, July 21 1999 Volume 03 : Number 182



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In this issue:

RE: FTE Small - whining/whirring noise
FTE Small - Shudder in Bronco 2
Re: FTE Small - Ranger Dual Exit Exhaust
Re: FTE Small - Power mirror meets truck tire at 75 MPH
Re: FTE Small - Power mirror meets truck tire at 75 MPH
Re: FTE Small - Power mirror meets truck tire at 75 MPH
Re: FTE Small - Power mirror meets truck tire at 75 MPH
FTE Small - Stall after starting
Re: FTE Small - Stall after starting

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:05:49 +0300
From: Bolte Brent
Subject: RE: FTE Small - whining/whirring noise

You mention that you were loading your boat about the time
that this noise started. The first thing that came to my mind
was that you engaged 4WD while pulling the boat out of the
water ( if this is a 4X4 Explorer ) and then once out of the
water, turned off the 4WD but didn't back up to disengage
the auto-locking hubs. On the older Explorers ( 1991-1994 )
the push-button dash switch only engaged and disengaged
the transfer case. The auto-locking of the front hubs is a
purely mechanical function triggered by the front drive shaft
turning which would cause the hubs to lock. When you turn
off the 4WD with the dash switch, only the transfer case
disengages automatically, the hubs you must "manually"
disengage by backing the vehicle up a few feet. In your
case, if you pulled the boat out of the water in 4WD, and
then turned the 4WD off but never backed up to disengage
the hubs, the hubs would have stayed locked which would
have kept your front drivelines spinning during the drive
home. This would account for the whirring noise you were
hearing. Once home you probably would have backed the
vehicle up which would have disengaged the hubs and the
noise would then have gone away. This is all assuming of
course that your Explorer is 4X4 and that you used the one
of the 4WD modes while loading your boat.

Thanks, Brent

> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:24:28 -0700
> From: IDPTV
> Subject: FTE Small - whining/whirring noise

> This weekend it was about 100 degrees and I needed to
> use the AC while I was loading our boat to keep the baby
> from melting. I turned it off once we were moving because
> I didn't think towing with the AC on was a smart thing to do.
> Once we were underway with the AC off and the windows
> down I could hear a whining/whirring noise, (like something?
> was straining or working too hard.) There didn't seem to be
> any loss of power and the tranny was still shifting smoothly
> as always. The noise continued throughout the 40 mile drive
> home. After the truck sat all night I drove it and the noise was
> still there but it magically went away after about a mile of
> driving, it just kind of faded away and sounded normal again.
> I have heard this sound once before and again it coincided with
> running the AC. Also my temp guage runs quite low, sometimes
> not even registering, when it does seem to be working it never
> gets to the N in the NORMAL range. The temp sensor was
> replaced six months ago and the heat works fine. Maybe these
> two things could be related? Anyway I'd be interested in any
> input... It's a 92 XLT with 97,000 miles, I've only had the truck
> for about 6 months now, and I really like it and don't want to
> screw it up.

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:15:23 -0500
From: "Larry Brown"
Subject: FTE Small - Shudder in Bronco 2

Help, I have been trying to find the cause of a shudder in my 84 Bronco 2
4WD. It occurs when I am pulling away from curbs or making a turn from a
stop, it is more pronounced turning to the left than the right (or at least
I notice it more). I have changed the shocks, inspected the u-joints and
bushings and have not found any noticeable slack. I don't want to just start
changing out parts to find this but am about to just to get rid of it.
Any suggestions would be great.
Larry

You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline.
It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons,
but at the very least you need a beer.
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:10:40 EDT
From: FrdRngrLvr aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ranger Dual Exit Exhaust

I just went to a local shop and had them do mine is cost me around 260 all
hung..


Jim
96 Ranger 160 hp 4-cylinder
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:04:40 -0400
From: "Anthony Rifici"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Power mirror meets truck tire at 75 MPH

> I think insurance will help you cover most of that cost if I'm not
>mistaken. Do you have full coverage.
>


I have full coverage w/ a $500 deductible. The mirror costs $196 in
parts and the scrapes on the side of the truck did not cut through the
paint, they could be buffed into non-existence. I would be hard pressed to
get a body shop to beat the $500 by enough to make it worth the claim.

I looked at the mirror a little more now that it has stopped raining.
It seems as though the only damage to the mirror (besides the scuffed
plastic) is the glass itself. I am going to see what it would cost for a
mirror shop to cut me a replacement.

Anybody know if Ford's auto recycling business is up and running yet?

Thanks for the response,
Tony
94 Ranger Supercab, 4.0L, 5-Speed.


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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:34:04 -0500
From: "Sven Setterdahl"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Power mirror meets truck tire at 75 MPH

> Subject: FTE Small - Power mirror meets truck tire at 75 MPH
>=20
> Here's the question: What are the chances that I can get away =
with just
> buying the glass for the mirror ($60 as opposed to $200 for the whole
> thing)? Is the glass supposed to come out the way it did or did I =
strip out
> the threads on the electric motor?

You might check with a salvage yard. You could probably get the whole =
ass'y for less than a dealer would charge for the glass, if they even =
sell it separately.=20


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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:05:54 -0400
From: "David A. Cooley"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Power mirror meets truck tire at 75 MPH

At 08:04 PM 7/20/99 -0400, you wrote:


> > I think insurance will help you cover most of that cost if I'm not
> >mistaken. Do you have full coverage.
> >
>
>
> I have full coverage w/ a $500 deductible. The mirror costs $196 in
>parts and the scrapes on the side of the truck did not cut through the
>paint, they could be buffed into non-existence. I would be hard pressed to
>get a body shop to beat the $500 by enough to make it worth the claim.


You know, Insurance on vehicles have 2 deductibles... Comprehensive, which
covers non-collision related damage (windshield Vs rock, Mirror Vs. tire
etc) is usually much lower than the collision deductible. Also, you may be
able to sweet talk the insurance company to cover it under
uninsured/underinsured motorist, which usually has 0 deductible.

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:53:21 -0700
From: "Craig Rubin"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Power mirror meets truck tire at 75 MPH

Tony,

Check with almost any commercial/residential glass company. They should be
able to cut a piece of mirror to fit for peanuts compared to the $60 price
mentioned.

Craig

- -----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Rifici
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, July 19, 1999 4:21 PM
Subject: FTE Small - Power mirror meets truck tire at 75 MPH


> It seems like every time I decide to make a performance modification,
>something breaks before I have a chance to buy the performance parts.
>Today, driving home from work, the car in front of me kicked up a chunk of
>truck tire. The tire struck my passenger side mirror, slamming it into the
>cab, then ricocheted off the side of the truck.
> DAMAGE REPORT: The mirror is glass shattered, there is a large scuff
>mark on the backside of the mirror, and there is 4' x 2.5' array of
>scratches on the side of the truck. Not good, but also not as bad as it
>could have been since it was hit by approx. 3 lb of rubber at 75 MPH.
> I figure that with some work, I could get the scratches out of the side
>of the truck and make the mirror scuff marks livable. They are power
>mirrors, so I pulled the glass out of the mirror and verified that the
>electrics still worked, they did. The glass came out with the metal screws
>that pivot it still attached.
> Here's the question: What are the chances that I can get away with
just
>buying the glass for the mirror ($60 as opposed to $200 for the whole
>thing)? Is the glass supposed to come out the way it did or did I strip
out
>the threads on the electric motor?
> BTW, I am still interested in any response on my dual exit exhaust
post.
>
> Thanks for the help,
> Tony
> 94 Ranger Supercab, 4.0L, 5-Speed.
>
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:05:42 -0500
From: "C R Blanchard"
Subject: FTE Small - Stall after starting

Since I have had my 88 Ranger (2.9L, 100k) when I start the engine, it revs
to 1200 rpm for 2-4 seconds and then drops back to idle.

Lately, I have been having the following problem when it is hot and the
truck has sat for more than 5-6 hours (morning and after work). After the
truck revs to 1200 or so and then backs off instead of staying at an idle,
it stalls. It will do this several times if I let it, but usually stops
after I hit the gas a time or two.

Any quick ideas as to what could be causing this?

Thanks,
Rick

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 01:44:19 EDT
From: INn311nNI aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Stall after starting

youve got gasket problems you need new gaskets....


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