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small-list-digest Tuesday, July 6 1999 Volume 03 : Number 167



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In this issue:

RE: FTE Small - many questions
FTE Small - Goodguys Street Rod Nationals
FTE Small - Motors running too cold?
Re: FTE Small - Motors running too cold?
Re: FTE Small - Goodguys Street Rod Nationals
Re: FTE Small - Motors running too cold?
Re: FTE Small - Motors running too cold?

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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 10:17:57 -0500
From: Mike Harms
Subject: RE: FTE Small - many questions

I have the same problem on my 89 2.9 Ranger with the manual (130K miles). I
trouble shot the problem further but haven't messed with it as I have a
cracked head that could be messing up a few things. I figured after I
rebuild the engine, if I still have the problem I'll hit it hard.

Here some more info, to see if it matches. It doesn't appear to be a stuck
throttle (or flaky cruise control) as stomping on the throttle and letting
up doesn't seem to affect it. I've disconnected the cruise throttle cable
with no change. The problem never happens when it is cold out (below 30f
degrees). It rarely happens when it is very hot out (above 85f degrees).
While the engine is doing it's thing with the clutch out and trying to idle
at 2500rpm if you shift into a higher gear the engine will get pulled down
to around 1100rpm (or whatever the gear requires for your speed) Only real
noticeable issue is that if you let off the throttle when the truck is doing
this, it won't slow down quickly at all. There is effectively no engine
braking occurring as the engine is trying to run at a higher rpm, just
doesn't have the power to do so.

This leads me to believe:
1. The throttle is not sticking
2. Air is leaking into the intake manifold somewhere raising the engine RPM
but not enough to put any power behind it (Gasket leak, worn throttle shaft,
vacuum hose leaking)
3. Injectors are leaking fuel (less likely as it seems like a very lean
condition the engine is in, not rich)

Anyone else with some thoughts?


>Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 12:46:30 -0500
>From: Matt Mayes
>Subject: FTE Small - many questions
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>1)Periodically for about the last week, my engine has been revving high
>(about 2000 or 2500 rpm) whenever I put the clutch in and coast to a stop.
>The only way it goes down is if I stop and let the clutch out (as if I was
>trying to kill the engine). I have been unable to find a reason for it as
>there seems to be no pattern to when it happens. Because it doesn't happen
>all of the time I have been reluctant to take it to the shop. Does anyone
>have any ideas about what I should do or what it could be?
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 13:40:25 -0400
From: "Anthony Rifici"
Subject: FTE Small - Goodguys Street Rod Nationals

If anybody is interested, one of the Goodguys Street Rod Nationals is
this coming weekend, July 9-11 at the Ohio Expo Center in Columbus, OH.
Last year, it drew around 10,000 1972 and earlier vehicles. It should be a
pretty good show this year also. It is especially fun for me, since I live
about a half mile from the fairgrounds.

Just thought I would let anybody who cares know,

Tony
94 Ranger Supercab, 4.0L, 5-Speed


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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 10:36:39 -0700
From: Adam McLaughlin
Subject: FTE Small - Motors running too cold?

I just removed the lower air dam from my 1988 BII. The motor now runs
noticeable cooler. If the engine temperature guage does mean anything
besides relativity, the meter used to sit on the high side of M, and now
it runs about the middle of the A in the word "NORMAL".

Would this cause any trouble later on down the road? Am I just staring
at nothing?

Seems to me that they wouldn't have put it on had they not needed it,
but I had to get rid of it to mount the warn bumper for the M8000 that
sits on the front of the vehicle. Since I have never seen a BII without
this, I didn't know what to expect or look for.

Now, where to mount that hi-lift......

Thanks,

Adam

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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 13:53:09 -0400
From: "David A. Cooley"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Motors running too cold?

At 10:36 AM 7/5/99 -0700, you wrote:
>I just removed the lower air dam from my 1988 BII. The motor now runs
>noticeable cooler. If the engine temperature guage does mean anything
>besides relativity, the meter used to sit on the high side of M, and now
>it runs about the middle of the A in the word "NORMAL".
>

If it used to sit on the high side of M and now sits in the middle of A,
that means the truck is running hotter...
Removing the air dam eliminates some of the "suction" that is created under
the truck as it moves down the road... this suction helps pull air through
the radiator and engine compartment. You may overheat if the cooling
system is marginal.
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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 15:09:16 -0400
From: daner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Goodguys Street Rod Nationals

Is it limited to '72 and earlier ONLY?

Or can I enter my '89 5.0L Ranger?? It is a drag racing event??




At 01:40 PM 7/5/99 -0400, you wrote:
> If anybody is interested, one of the Goodguys Street Rod Nationals is
>this coming weekend, July 9-11 at the Ohio Expo Center in Columbus, OH.
>Last year, it drew around 10,000 1972 and earlier vehicles. It should be a
>pretty good show this year also. It is especially fun for me, since I live
>about a half mile from the fairgrounds.
>
> Just thought I would let anybody who cares know,
>
> Tony
> 94 Ranger Supercab, 4.0L, 5-Speed
>
>
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:10:13 EDT
From: Rngr86STX aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Motors running too cold?

The letters on the temp guage read from top to bottom on his vehicle- if it
went from M to A the needle dropped . My 86 is the same way.
As for affecting the temp of the engine by taking it off I dont know - I
took mine off a few years back but didnt notice at the time if it affected it
or not, My truck runs very cool tho, running around the "A" (depending on
load) in the summer and barely leaving the peg in the winter. (Maybe I should
slap it back on there this winter and see if it warms up any quicker)Truck
still runs great 150,000 Mi and really dont see any problems from a cool
running 2.9L
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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 22:18:26 -0400
From: "David A. Cooley"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Motors running too cold?

At 09:10 PM 7/5/99 -0400, you wrote:
>The letters on the temp guage read from top to bottom on his vehicle- if it
>went from M to A the needle dropped . My 86 is the same way.
> As for affecting the temp of the engine by taking it off I dont know - I
>took mine off a few years back but didnt notice at the time if it affected it
>or not, My truck runs very cool tho, running around the "A" (depending on
>load) in the summer and barely leaving the peg in the winter. (Maybe I should
>slap it back on there this winter and see if it warms up any quicker)Truck
>still runs great 150,000 Mi and really dont see any problems from a cool
>running 2.9L

Wasn't aware of the guage being vertical... assumed it was a right-left...
If it does run cooler, it won't hurt anything... The thermostat sets the
minimum operating temp fore the engine anyway, so it will never run cooler
than the thermostat set temp.
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