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small-list-digest Friday, July 2 1999 Volume 03 : Number 165



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Small - 2.9
Re: FTE Small - Changing the odometer on a LCD dash
Re: FTE Small - Changing the odometer on a LCD dash
FTE Small - EEC-IV Computer Programming Sources
FTE Small - Parts sources
Re: FTE Small - Parts sources
Re: FTE Small - "Flag"-type side view mirrors...
Re: FTE Small - EEC-IV Computer Programming Sources
Re: FTE Small - Changing the odometer on a LCD dash
Re: FTE Small - check engine light

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 08:58:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: philkatie webtv.net (Phil Katie)
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 2.9

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Philip MacLaren
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Hi, been lurking for awhile. My 91 Ranger has about 60K of well taken
care of miles on it and it needs a rear main seal. I was wondering if
the 2.9 is prone to this. I want to put a 2.9 in another vehicle where
it will not be treated so well. TIA

Philip MacLaren
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 09:51:10 -0400
From: Daner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Changing the odometer on a LCD dash

Sorry I forgot to mention that the odometer is on a LCD (liquid crystal
display)
I don't think the actual EEC has the odometer reading stored in it. So it
must be
saved in the instrument cluster itself.

Daner

>>
>>My brother just got a used instrument cluster, for his '92 F-150 4x4 5.0L
>>truck, from the wreckers
>>(since it has a tach) and would like to change the odoemeter reading on the
>>used one to match that
>>what his truck says. (the used one from the wreckers reads 220,000 kms, and
>>his truck only has
>>104,000 km)
>
>Pull the old one out of his old cluster and put it in the new one.
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 10:16:07 -0400
From: David Cooley
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Changing the odometer on a LCD dash

At 09:51 AM 7/1/99 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Sorry I forgot to mention that the odometer is on a LCD (liquid crystal
>display)
>I don't think the actual EEC has the odometer reading stored in it. So it
>must be
>saved in the instrument cluster itself.

Should be a removeable module in the cluster that contains the Odometer etc.
if you swap them between the clusters, the mileage from the stock one
should appear in the "new" one.
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 15:40:44 -0700
From: "Bob Marrs"
Subject: FTE Small - EEC-IV Computer Programming Sources

Hi Folks,
I am looking for some inputs from anyone who can advise some experts to talk
with in the area of EEV-IV computer re-programming (not just adding external
chips). I am interested in re-mapping the advance table and air-fuel
calculation tables. Thanks for any inputs!!
Best Regards,
Bob Marrs (bmarrs abpac.com)

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:53:42 -0500
From: Larry Brown
Subject: FTE Small - Parts sources

Does anyone know of a good source for parts for the Bronco 2, I have
looked in JCWhitney and I an looking for other options
Thanks
Larry

"The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four people is
suffering from some form of mental illness. Think of your three best
friends. If they're okay, then it's you."
-Rita Mae Brown

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:09:41 EDT
From: Rngr86STX aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Parts sources

www.alltruckparts.com
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 22:13:47 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - "Flag"-type side view mirrors...

Adam McLaughlin wrote:
>
> I went down to the local junkyard and bought a set of the stainless steel
> kind. Cost me $20 and an hour of installing onto my 1988 BII. I'm very glad
> that I made the switch, as the steele ones are much better mirrors too.
>
> Adam
>

I agree with Adam; get the lo-mount door mirrors and be done with it.
The suggestion about the Testors wood glue was interesting as well..
sounds like an alternative.

Tim
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 99 19:19:10 PDT
From: don neomagic.com (Donald Paauw)
Subject: Re: FTE Small - EEC-IV Computer Programming Sources

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> Hi Folks,
> I am looking for some inputs from anyone who can advise some experts to talk
> with in the area of EEV-IV computer re-programming (not just adding external
> chips). I am interested in re-mapping the advance table and air-fuel
> calculation tables. Thanks for any inputs!!
> Best Regards,
> Bob Marrs (bmarrs abpac.com)
>
You may want to look at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu/diy_efi

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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 22:30:11 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Changing the odometer on a LCD dash

Daner wrote:
>
> Sorry I forgot to mention that the odometer is on a LCD (liquid crystal
> display)
> I don't think the actual EEC has the odometer reading stored in it. So it
> must be
> saved in the instrument cluster itself.
>
> Daner

Correct; it's called a PSOM (programmable speedometer odometer module)
and while the tire size is programmable in the field the mileage is
not. (for obvious reasons) A call to your Ford dealer should result in
the place you can sent the unit to for reprogramming. If they are un
helpful email me and I'll see what I can dig up for an address.

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Custer Auto Repair
Wilmington NC
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 22:42:45 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - check engine light

Bolte Brent wrote:
>
> We had the same problem on our '91 Explorer. When towing a trailer up
> long hills the check engine light would come on and then after topping the



> are open. The problem comes from the fact that because you are towing,
> the engine is under a larger load than normal which keeps the engine RPM's
> from increasing when you open the throttle. The engine computer is pumping
> extra fuel into the engine ( again because the throttle plates are opened up
> ),
> but since engine RPM's are not going up as they normally would when you
> open the throttle, air flow through the engine is less than it should be for
> how
> far the throttle plates are open. This results in an air/fuel ratio that is
> way off
> from what is should be. The air/fuel ratio imbalance causes the O2 sensor
> to
> get a reading that is out of the normal range for a long enough time that it
> finally trips the check engine light to come on. After you get to the top
> of the
> hill, the engine is able to get back to the proper air/fuel ratio for the
> RPM
> it is running, the O2 sensor readings go back to normal, and after they are
> normal again for a long enough time the check engine light goes back out.

Essentially correct. The computer looks for a sensor being out of it's
programmed range for X number of milliseconds and will set a code if
outside it's parameters. You *might* have an O2 sensor that's
borderline but I'd mostly ignore this problem if it's only during towing
and steep hills. As mentioned you need a richer mixture under load and
the extra fuel might keep the O2 reading rich long enough to trip the
MIL light. Ideally it should not since the MAP/MAF figure the load, but
the logic of the computer or a borderline sensor could skew things
enough to trip it.

> You shouldn't need to worry about this since it is a temporary situation and
> the computer is just warning you that it sees something it doesn't consider
> normal, but if the light stays on for an extended period after you top the
> hill,
> you may want have things checked out. Hope this helps, sorry it ended up
> being so long.

Exactly.. if there IS a problem developing it's slight now and only
brought on by the towing.

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Custer Auto Repair
Wilmington NC
>
> Thanks, Brent
>
> -- Original message
>
> > Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 06:29:13 -0700
> > From: IDPTV
> > Subject: FTE Small - check engine light
>
> > The check engine light on our 92 Explorer comes on occasionally when I
> > am towing our boat up hills. It only comes on after an exceptionally long
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