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small-list-digest Wednesday, June 23 1999 Volume 03 : Number 156

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In this issue:

Re: FTE Small - Ticking Noise
Re: FTE Small - "New" old Ranger needs a boost!
Re: FTE Small - Ticking Noise
Re: FTE Small - Ticking Noise
Re: FTE Small - "New" old Ranger needs a boost!
Re: FTE Small - "New" old Ranger needs a boost!
FTE Small - Automatic transmissions
FTE Small - Need Advice Regarding Fixing or Replacing Manual Tranny
FTE Small - Explorer A/C question
Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question
Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question
Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question
Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question
Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question
Re: FTE Small - Automatic transmissions
Re: FTE Small - Need Advice Regarding Fixing or Replacing Manual Tranny
Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question
RE: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question
Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question
Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question
RE: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question
RE: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question
Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question
Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question
RE: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question
FTE Small - OT congrats to retiring
Re: FTE Small - Need Advice Regarding Fixing or Replacing Manual Tranny
FTE Small - Starting with low fuel
FTE Small - Rear tire/ignition kit
Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question
Re: FTE Small - Rear tire/ignition kit
Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question
Re: FTE Small - "New" old Ranger needs a boost!
RE: FTE Small - Starting with low fuel

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:03:50 -0400
From: David Cooley
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ticking Noise

At 01:34 AM 6/22/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi all, new to the list and thought I would ask a question. I have a 1991
>Ford Ranger with the 2.3L 4 cyl. Lately when I start it up, the engine ticks
>loudly for about 1 to 2 minutes. After that the noise dies off and eventually
>is gone. Does anyone know what could be the cause and how to fix it? Thanks a
>lot....

When was the last time you changed the oil and filter?
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com has some links in the links section, search for
>the word turbo and you will find several links. I believe a place called
>Ranger Power Sports sells a turbo kit for around $1000, not sure how well
>it works though. If you really want to do it right, go get an engine
>and computer out of a Merkur, Mustang SVO, or tbird turbocoupe. I know
>that superchips sells a chip for those engines that raises the boost to 25
>pounds if you really want to get it moving. I have thought about this
>swap for my ranger, as well as a 302. The thing I like about this swap is
>the mileage would stay up and it wouldn't be a heavy so it would handle
>better.

25PSI?
I think not... not unless you run 117 octane VP race fuel all the time. I
had a turbo coupe... at 15 PSI it would ping on 93 octane pretty bad. I
had to turn it down to between 12-13 and the knock would go away. Spent a
TON of money on mods and go fast goodies, had it running low 13 second 1/4
miles and on 100 octane unleaded couldn't squeeze more than 20 PSI without
severe detonation.
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:03:14 -0500 (CDT)
From: Sandman
Subject: Re: FTE Small - "New" old Ranger needs a boost!

Hmmm....that must be the top pressure the engine can take. I remembered
seeing that somewhere. The chip I saw is at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.superchips.com/350must.htm and it says the boost is around 14.
Sorry about that.

On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, David Cooley wrote:

> 25PSI?
> I think not... not unless you run 117 octane VP race fuel all the time. I
> had a turbo coupe... at 15 PSI it would ping on 93 octane pretty bad. I
> had to turn it down to between 12-13 and the knock would go away. Spent a
> TON of money on mods and go fast goodies, had it running low 13 second 1/4
> miles and on 100 octane unleaded couldn't squeeze more than 20 PSI without
> severe detonation.

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:07:48 -0400
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE Small - "New" old Ranger needs a boost!

Sandman wrote:
>
> Hmmm....that must be the top pressure the engine can take. I remembered
> seeing that somewhere. The chip I saw is at
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.superchips.com/350must.htm and it says the boost is around 14.
> Sorry about that.
>

This article does not sound all that professional. I tend to question
superchips HP/Torque figures about anything. A while back (when I knew
didly about turbos), I got one of their graphic boost controllers and
their ad had rediculous claims for torque increases just from raising
boost. At least superchips is using the service port to actually
reprogram the EEC's, unlike their original attempts where the "chips"
were bascially nothing (maybe slight timing changes).

OX
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:30:07 -0700
From: "meb8100"
Subject: FTE Small - Automatic transmissions

Does anyone have any recommendations for "beefing-up" automatic
transmissions for towing? I have a 91 Ranger 4.0/4x4/auto (100,000 miles)
and a 93 Aerostar 4.0/AWD/auto (70,000 miles). Both have 3.73 axle ratios.
Worst conditions will be towing over mountain passes in up to 95-100 degree
heat. The load is expected to be about 3,000 pounds. Are the stock trans
coolers sufficient? How about switching over to synthetic lube?

Also, if anyone has any comments regarding towing this weight with either
vehicle I'd like to hear your experiences. I am initially going to try this
w/o trailer brakes. Is that risky? I believe the owner's manual states
brakes required over 2,000 pounds but I see many applications where people
tow over that w/o them.

Thanks for any help,
Mark Biederbeck

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:08:44 -0400
From: Dave Slotter
Subject: FTE Small - Need Advice Regarding Fixing or Replacing Manual Tranny

Hi.

I have had my wife's 1986 Bronco II (5 speed w/ overdrive and 4WD
manual hubs) out of service a while while I have been trying to
figure out the least-expensive, but most reliable way to fix its
transmission. I believe the original transmission was manufactured by
Mitsubishi and I have heard many negative opinions regarding this
tranny.

It only has fourth gear working on it and as a result we believe that
the countershaft and/or countershaft bearings are shot. Also trying
to drive this back home after a failure resulted in ruining what was
left of the clutch. :-(

A transmission rebuild will cost $800 - $1200. If I remove and
reinstall the tranny myself, I may be able to save a bit if I go to
the right place. I have never done this before, so it is a bit
daunting - but economic forces are good about forcing these kinds of
changes, and who knows, maybe I'll learn something in the process.
;-)

I need to get this truck operating reliably and that is my most
important goal. Saving money is the second goal, but should not
interfere with reliability.

Buying a new transmission for $2500 and up is out of the question.
What would be the most cost effective way of getting this truck back
up and running? Should I rebuild the Mitsubishi or replace it with a
tranny from the junkyard and hope for the best? If it was a junkyard
tranny, I would go for a vehicle which was in a collision and had
relatively low miles. Any solution has to be compatible with the fact
that we do use the 4WD in the winter and occasionally use it to tow
small trailers.

All help is appreciated, and if there is a request for it, I could
summarize to the list.

- -Dave Slotter
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:14:54 -0700
From: George Freese
Subject: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question

I have a '98 XLT. Looking at the vent selector with "OFF" at the top, and
I turn it 1 to the right, that selects the vents pointing at the head and
feet. In this position the A/C is turned on. I did this looked at the A/C
and it was on. We haven't had the Explorer for long, and aren't sure it
this is normal. The A/C also functions normally when turned to the A/C and
Max A/C settings.

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:39:34 -0700
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question

George Freese wrote:
>
> I have a '98 XLT. Looking at the vent selector with "OFF" at the top, and
> I turn it 1 to the right, that selects the vents pointing at the head and
> feet. In this position the A/C is turned on. I did this looked at the A/C
> and it was on. We haven't had the Explorer for long, and aren't sure it
> this is normal. The A/C also functions normally when turned to the A/C and
> Max A/C settings.
>

normal or not, my '97 Ranger does the same thing
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:32:59 -0700
From: "Alan Wilson"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question

I have a 98 Ford Ranger. From what I understand all the settings automatically
turn on the A/C except for the OFF position and the VENT(Air directly at head).

George Freese wrote:

> I have a '98 XLT. Looking at the vent selector with "OFF" at the top, and
> I turn it 1 to the right, that selects the vents pointing at the head and
> feet. In this position the A/C is turned on. I did this looked at the A/C
> and it was on. We haven't had the Explorer for long, and aren't sure it
> this is normal. The A/C also functions normally when turned to the A/C and
> Max A/C settings.
>
> thanks,
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- --
Alan Wilson - Wilshire Associates, (310) 451-3051 x3750
(310) 260-7350 Direct
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:37:52 -0400
From: "Kenneth J. Nagy"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question

My '96 works that way as well, although I never really understood why the
compressor kicked on. I thought that selection was for outside air (vent)
to enter.

Ken

- ----- Original Message -----
From: George Freese
To:
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 11:14 AM
Subject: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question

> I have a '98 XLT. Looking at the vent selector with "OFF" at the top, and
> I turn it 1 to the right, that selects the vents pointing at the head and
> feet. In this position the A/C is turned on. I did this looked at the
A/C
> and it was on. We haven't had the Explorer for long, and aren't sure it
> this is normal. The A/C also functions normally when turned to the A/C
and
> Max A/C settings.
>
> thanks,
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:51:20 +0100
From: "Neil Brownlee"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question

Typical Ford...A/C runs on all settings except one. Since my Explorer is
*off road*...I can't remember which one is off, I think it's the face
only...but hey! You can HAVE mine, the vents have all stopped working since
Ford fixed it.... :-)

Neil

Kit Exploder

- ----- Original Message -----
From: George Freese
To:
Sent: 22 June 1999 16:14
Subject: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question

> I have a '98 XLT. Looking at the vent selector with "OFF" at the top, and
> I turn it 1 to the right, that selects the vents pointing at the head and
> feet. In this position the A/C is turned on. I did this looked at the
A/C
> and it was on. We haven't had the Explorer for long, and aren't sure it
> this is normal. The A/C also functions normally when turned to the A/C
and
> Max A/C settings.
>
> thanks,
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:52:18 +0100
From: "Neil Brownlee"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question

One thing...it ONLY turns the A/C on at above 4 (or is it 9) degrees
celcius...anything below and it's OFF. Okay?

Neil

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Wilson
To:
Sent: 22 June 1999 16:32
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question

> I have a 98 Ford Ranger. From what I understand all the settings
automatically
> turn on the A/C except for the OFF position and the VENT(Air directly at
head).
>
> George Freese wrote:
>
> > I have a '98 XLT. Looking at the vent selector with "OFF" at the top,
and
> > I turn it 1 to the right, that selects the vents pointing at the head
and
> > feet. In this position the A/C is turned on. I did this looked at the
A/C
> > and it was on. We haven't had the Explorer for long, and aren't sure it
> > this is normal. The A/C also functions normally when turned to the A/C
and
> > Max A/C settings.
> >
> > thanks,
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> --
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> (310) 260-7350 Direct
> (310) 458-2842 FAX
>
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:52:46 -0400
From: David Cooley
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Automatic transmissions

At 07:30 AM 6/22/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Does anyone have any recommendations for "beefing-up" automatic
>transmissions for towing? I have a 91 Ranger 4.0/4x4/auto (100,000 miles)
>and a 93 Aerostar 4.0/AWD/auto (70,000 miles). Both have 3.73 axle ratios.
>Worst conditions will be towing over mountain passes in up to 95-100 degree
>heat. The load is expected to be about 3,000 pounds. Are the stock trans
>coolers sufficient? How about switching over to synthetic lube?
>

I'd recomend at least an aftermarket trans cooler...
this will remove some of the heat load from the radiator as well...
Synthetic fluid may help longevity of the fluid itself...

>Also, if anyone has any comments regarding towing this weight with either
>vehicle I'd like to hear your experiences. I am initially going to try this
>w/o trailer brakes. Is that risky? I believe the owner's manual states
>brakes required over 2,000 pounds but I see many applications where people
>tow over that w/o them.

The reason the book states trailer brakes are needed if you tow over 2000
lbs is because the vehicles brakes will not be safe to stop that amount of
weight... it's for your safety and the safety of others...

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> Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question
>
>
> At 02:09 PM 6/22/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >So glad I'm retired at 34...life does have better moments
> than listening to
> >grown men banter back and forth about their employers
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> >here>...guess I should back to work on the 41 Ford...keep up
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> >fellas and the great and informative posts
>
> I'm hoping to be retired by 40... 4 more years of slavery!
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:14:14 -0400
From: Mason Phillips
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Need Advice Regarding Fixing or Replacing Manual Tranny

The Chiltons Manual gives a teardown of the 5 speed 4x4 tranny.It list the tools
needed to do the job. My opinion is to rebuild it. I happen to have a spare. After
of course I had the one in my truck rebuilt. Who knows what your getting with a
salvage yard tranny. Where do you live? Id be willing to sell my spare for the
right price.

Mason Phillips

Dave Slotter wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I have had my wife's 1986 Bronco II (5 speed w/ overdrive and 4WD
> manual hubs) out of service a while while I have been trying to
> figure out the least-expensive, but most reliable way to fix its
> transmission. I believe the original transmission was manufactured by
> Mitsubishi and I have heard many negative opinions regarding this
> tranny.
>
> It only has fourth gear working on it and as a result we believe that
> the countershaft and/or countershaft bearings are shot. Also trying
> to drive this back home after a failure resulted in ruining what was
> left of the clutch. :-(
>
> A transmission rebuild will cost $800 - $1200. If I remove and
> reinstall the tranny myself, I may be able to save a bit if I go to
> the right place. I have never done this before, so it is a bit
> daunting - but economic forces are good about forcing these kinds of
> changes, and who knows, maybe I'll learn something in the process.
> ;-)
>
> I need to get this truck operating reliably and that is my most
> important goal. Saving money is the second goal, but should not
> interfere with reliability.
>
> Buying a new transmission for $2500 and up is out of the question.
> What would be the most cost effective way of getting this truck back
> up and running? Should I rebuild the Mitsubishi or replace it with a
> tranny from the junkyard and hope for the best? If it was a junkyard
> tranny, I would go for a vehicle which was in a collision and had
> relatively low miles. Any solution has to be compatible with the fact
> that we do use the 4WD in the winter and occasionally use it to tow
> small trailers.
>
> All help is appreciated, and if there is a request for it, I could
> summarize to the list.
>
> -Dave Slotter
> --
>
> ICQ# 16458879 AOL/AIM ID: "Mac XR"
> 1986 Ford Bronco II Gray Manual 2.9 V6 123K Pittsburgh PA
>
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:09:59 -0400
From: "Anthony Rifici"
Subject: FTE Small - Starting with low fuel

My 94 Ranger 4.0L has just developed an annoying problem. It won't
start on the first try when there is less than 1/4 of a tank (20 gal tank)
and it has been sitting awhile (overnight or while I am at work). Starts
fine on the second try or if I crank it longer than normal on the first try
and it will restart fine after the initial start. It has always been parked
on level ground when this happened. The gas cap seems to hold pressure, as
it still hisses when I open it after driving.
Now that I know that it almost always does this under the above
conditions, I am going to to pressurize the fuel lines by turning the key
and not starting it for a 30 or so seconds the next time I am under a 1/4 of
a tank, to see if there is any change.
I just filled up today, so does anybody have any ideas while I am
burning this tank off??? BTW, I have just replaced the fuel filter, the
condition existed before and after I replaced it.

Thanks, any help is appreciated,
Tony
94 Ranger Supercab,
4.0L, 5-Speed

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:43:14 +0900
From: douglas forster
Subject: FTE Small - Rear tire/ignition kit

I just had a James Duff System 3 lift installed on my 1986 Bronco II
(2.9/5spd) with all new polyurethane bushings, steering stabilizer--the
whole enchilada. It's a very sweet ride now but I have a very annoying
spare tire hitch that won't stop rattling. Has anyone found a way to
keep the outside hitch and spare from making so much noise? Also, I
installed a K & N filter but I want to get as much performance out of my
engine as possible. Does anyone have any experience with Jacobs
Electronics ignition kits on a BII? Any feedback would be appreciated.

Doug Forster

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:26:33 -0400
From: Jean Marc Chartier
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question

George Freese wrote:
>
> I have a '98 XLT. Looking at the vent selector with "OFF" at the top, and
> I turn it 1 to the right, that selects the vents pointing at the head and
> feet. In this position the A/C is turned on. I did this looked at the A/C
> and it was on. We haven't had the Explorer for long, and aren't sure it
> this is normal. The A/C also functions normally when turned to the A/C and
> Max A/C settings.
>
> thanks,
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George,

The only non A/C positions are the OFF, Vent and Feet
position. All the others are A/C. It seems to be a Ford
thing.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:20:28 -0700
From: Adam McLaughlin
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Rear tire/ignition kit

I wouldn't mind hearing a solution to this one, since I also just went to a
James Duff 3" lift, with steering stabilizer and poly bushings. The rear
tire does rattle pretty good on mine too, but I'd bet that the jerry can
mounted on the tire back there doesn't help keep things quiet...

I installed this lift in my parents street, using only hand tools and a
grinder. Best part was, I didn't pay anybody for labor!! Very cool! Only
took two days!

Adam

At 09:43 AM 6/23/99 +0900, you wrote:
>I just had a James Duff System 3 lift installed on my 1986 Bronco II
>(2.9/5spd) with all new polyurethane bushings, steering stabilizer--the
>whole enchilada. It's a very sweet ride now but I have a very annoying
>spare tire hitch that won't stop rattling. Has anyone found a way to
>keep the outside hitch and spare from making so much noise? Also, I
>installed a K & N filter but I want to get as much performance out of my
>engine as possible. Does anyone have any experience with Jacobs
>Electronics ignition kits on a BII? Any feedback would be appreciated.
>
>Doug Forster
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 02:37:58 GMT
From: alannorthstar

mindspring.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer A/C question

On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:32:59 -0700, you wrote:

:I have a 98 Ford Ranger. From what I understand all the settings =
automatically
:turn on the A/C except for the OFF position and the VENT(Air directly at=
head).
:
it is also off in the one with the air blowing only at the feet.
That's the plain "heat" mode.

Later,
Alan
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:50:06 -0500
From: b.mccoy

baldeagle.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - "New" old Ranger needs a boost!

I think we are getting away from the actual request. He said "work
worthy not a drag racing demon. So, a turbo on a gas engine is
not the way to go. What he really needs it more grunt not more
ponies. I would say the cheapest rout would be to swap to a much
lower rear end ratio. You probably have something around the 3.54
to 4.10 range. If you go down to say a 5.18 or something like that
you will have great low end power and you will still be drivable in
5th gear on the highway. It will loose some speed on the top end
however. This will be far cheaper and a much quicker result than
ANY engine swap that is out there.

- -B

> At 7:25 AM -0400 6/21/99, David A. Cooley wrote:
>>At 01:19 AM 6/21/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>I recently bought a '90 Ranger XLT, 4-cyl., 5-spd. 9 years old it
>>only had 57,000 actual miles, never off a paved road...I love the
>>truck .....
>>mannered 4-cyl., what would it cost, and would it be worth it?
>>I'm looking for performance, but the kind that makes the truck a
>>work worthy machine, not a drag racing demon. Any other tips
>>will be appreciated!!!
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:31:35 -0500
From: "Whistance, Jeremy"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Starting with low fuel

My 92 Explorer was behaving in nearly the same way a month and a half ago.
No longer starting on the first try, but starting just fine on the second.
However, I couldn't find that mine was related to fuel level. It came on
very suddenly and just didn't feel right. I replaced my fuel filter as well
but it didn't help the situation, infact, after a couple of weeks it was
getting worse. It would no longer start on the second try but now started
cleanly on the third attempt. I attempted your suggestion of allowing it to
pressurize by turning and not starting....I heard the usual hum of the pump
priming for a couple of seconds, then waited 20 seconds or so and tried to
start and found no improvement, if it was the first attempt it would fail.

I took it to a garage here in town and they tested voltage across the pump....

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