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In this issue:

RE: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:
Re: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:
Re: FTE Small - Cleaning up
RE: FTE Small - Super Chip
FTE Small - re: help with explorer CD receiver
Re: FTE Small - AC Fire
Re: FTE Small - re: help with explorer CD receiver
FTE Small - Hot Bronco II
Re: FTE Small - Hot Bronco II
Re: FTE Small - help with Explorer and cd receiver
Re: FTE Small - help with Explorer and cd receiver
RE: FTE Small - Hot Bronco II
Re: FTE Small - Hot Bronco II

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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 07:17:24 -0700
From: Ray Scheidnes
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:

What about drilling holes in the airbox (before the filter, of course)?
In your opinion, is this benefitial to engine performance of a 4.0?

I know this topic has been discussed before, but you seem to understand this
issue of air induction pretty well, so I was curious to hear your thoughts.
Thanks.

> ----------
> From: Chris Slaw[SMTP:cslaw ptd.net]
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 4:53 PM
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:
>
> Ray Scheidnes wrote:
> >
> > Look up Kurtz Kustomz Motorsports on the internet. They've got
> replacement
> > air induction kits for Fords. I just ordered their kit for my Ranger
> 4.0
> > motor. Haven't put it in yet, but can't wait! My factory airbox
> currently
> > has the panel type K&N filter which has done quite well, but still too
> > restrictive...
>
> I've seen several problems with the tacked-on conical filter setups:
>
> #1 - the factory MAF meter is calibrated to the laminar airflow
> characteristics which the (on mine at least) panel filter creates. If you
> change from the panel to the conical filter, it throws off the calibration
> of
> the MAF meter. That's why you should specify if you want your MAF meter
> calibrated for the conical or panel filter when you order a bigger MAF
> from
> somebody like Pro-M. This normally only affects idle mixture, but can
> also
> have an affect at WOT. Generally speaking, the factory calibration is set
> too
> rich at WOT to help prevent detonation, so the leaned-out signal the MAF
> sends
> to the ecm is often beneficial for power production purposes (especially
> when
> running high octane gas), but at best the affect is unpredictable. If you
> already have a factory conical filter, you still have the following
> issues...
>
> #2 - underhood air can be very hot, compared to the fresh air being pulled
> in
> from outside by the factory airbox. Hot air is bad for power production,
> and
> induces detonation. As long as the airbox inlet is as large as, or larger
> than the smallest opening in the inlet tract, it is not possible that it
> is
> restricting airflow. I estimate that the airbox inlet tube can flow 600
> cfm, which is plenty for a 4.0 or 5.0 that never sees the high side of
> 5000
> rpm.
>
> #3 - the open filter element receives "prop wash" from the cooling fan,
> which
> throws it out of whack and screws up the idle strategy of the ecm.
>
> #4 - reduced splash protection makes it easier to ingest H2O.
>
> #5 - what are you getting for your $90? All I see is a $39 air filter and
> adaptor tube with a clamp?
>
> In other words - thanks, but no thanks. I'll stick with my panel filter.
>
> OTOH, it is nice to finally find info on the Dynomax exhaust kit. Thanks
> for
> the lead!
>
> --
> Chris Slaw
> --
> '97 Explorer V8 17k
> '93 626ES auto 49k
> '90 MustangGT 5spd 60k
> --
> "The ones whom you should try to get even with
> are the ones who have helped you."
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:43:16 -0400
From: Chris Slaw
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Intro and Explorer V8 Q:

Ray Scheidnes wrote:
>
> What about drilling holes in the airbox (before the filter, of course)?
> In your opinion, is this benefitial to engine performance of a 4.0?

I haven't tried this, so I can't comment on the effect. It would be easy
enough to try it though, and if you don't like the results just tape shut the
holes you drilled. I have a certain aversion to pulling in hot underhood air.
Stick a thermometer under there and take a long drive; you will probably see
temps approaching 140-160 degrees with the a/c blasting in city traffic! A
much cooler fangle (pardon pun) would be to cut a 3" hole in the bottom of the
box and pipe in additional cool outside air with some type of tubing like the
old carburetor air filter heat riser piping.
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:32:03 -0400
From: Dave Slotter
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Cleaning up

> > My mom and dad say that I can't do any more work on
>> the car until after I clean up the street. I've tried simple green, gunk
>> engine degreaser and the like, but I need to remove the dark spots.
>
>If all else fails find some paint of a similar color and paint the
>spots! ;-)

Actually, that gives me a similar idea. How about if this is
blacktop, try putting down some blacktop sealer to cover up your
little "mistake"?

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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:11:46 -0700
From: Ray Scheidnes
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Super Chip

Robert,

Kind of a late response to this old email, but, where is "4.0L Performance?"
Are they on the internet? I've also heard of another company called
"Pro-M." Does anyone know about them as well?

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> From: Robert Eberhardt[SMTP:RobertEberhardt worldnet.att.net]
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> Subject: RE: FTE Small - Super Chip
>
> >Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 06:18:31 -0700
> >From: Ray Scheidnes
> >Subject: RE: FTE Small - Super Chip
> >
> >Do you simply pull off the original MAF and replace it with this larger
> one?
> >Are there any other parts that you need to make it fit correctly with the
> >stock airbox?
> >Did you notice any improvement in the motor's performance with this
> larger
> >MAF?
> >
>
> I really couldn't tell any difference with it. I mainly purchased it with
> the intentions of adding headers and a larger throttle body as I got to
> them. I happened to sell my Ranger before I got to the rest. I purchased
> it
> first per 4.0L Performance's advise. The guy that runs the shop said that
> it
> was the most restrictive element on the intake side. He said the throttle
> body was a larger diameter so it wouldn't have done any good to go even
> larger since the airflow still had to make it through the restrictive
> stock
> mass air meter. It bolts right in place of the stock one. It does take
> some
> forcing to get it into the small openings but I put some Vaseline on both
> ends to help it. Once I got it on the first time it went on and off much
> easier the next time.
>
> Robert
>
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:43:37 -0600
From: "Steinbrook, Steve/PHL"
Subject: FTE Small - re: help with explorer CD receiver

I recently bought a 96 explorer sport and upgraded the sound system. I
originally bought a head unit from crutchfield and was all ready to install
it when I talked to a local auto radio dealer. The instructions from
crutchfield seemed adequate but the dealer told me that since I was putting
in a Sony unit I would not get the same warranty if I installed it myself.
By going through an authorized Sony dealer I have a warranty so that if the
head unit is ever stolen, with or without the car, I can get a new unit as
long as I hold the removable faceplate. Not a bad deal since I live in
Philadelphia and have to park on the street. The system I got included the
CD head unit, two new MB Quart front speakers and a JBL stealth box (sub
goes in that pocket in the rear wheel well) along with an amp. The sound
improvement is phenomenal. I was told this was the best I could do for the
money. As far as the factory amp, they set it up so that it only fires the
rear speakers. If I had not gotten the sub I would have used the head
unit's amp to power all the speakers. I was told that this would make the
sound better. Hope this helps.

- -steve

Stephen Steinbrook
215-563-4244 x322
ssteinbr ch2m.com

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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:42:26 -0500
From: "Mike Griffith"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - AC Fire

No need for you to get together the documentation for other than your own
incident. The National Highway Traffic Administration (NHTSA) has a web
form to report the problem for analysis.

I quote from this page at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/ivoq/default.htm :

" Use this form only to report a problem. If you prefer, call the DOT Auto
Safety Hotline at 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236) or 1-800-424-9393 and a
NHTSA representative will record your report. In either case, your report
will be entered into the NHTSA's vehicle owner's complaint database and used
with other reports to determine if a safety-related defect trend exists.
If a safety-related defect exists in a motor vehicle or item of motor
vehicle equipment, the manufacturer must fix it at no cost to the owner.
Your report is the first step in the process.
Government engineers analyze the problem. If warranted, the manufacturer is
asked to conduct a recall. If the manufacturer does not initiate a recall,
the government can order the manufacturer to do a recall.
We do not have to receive a set number of reports before we look into a
problem. We gather all available information on a problem. Your report is
important to us."


Send in reports for ALL vehicle safety related problems and potential safety
related problems, regardless of the age or warranty status of the vehicle,
for both the OEM and aftermarket markets.

One report is how a trend gets started!

Mike Griffith
mpgrif bellsouth.net



Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:11:33 -0400
From: Dave Slotter
Subject: Re: FTE Small - AC Fire

At 8:39 PM -0400 6/15/99, David A. Cooley wrote:
>Fred,
>If you can get enough documented cases to prove it's a common occurence,
>you can contact the federal trade commission and the Department of
>transportation and have Ford forced into a recall and grandfather making
>the repair a warranted item regardless of mileage.

This is easier said than done. I'd recommend that if Fred wants to push for
a recall then great. But if he just wants his vehicle fixed, then he should
contact his local dealer and see what they can do. If they can't or won't
fix the problem, then talk to Ford corporate and see what they are willing
to do. If this doesn't work, then I'd recommend seeking arbitration through
the Better Business Bureau and/or seeking a lawyer and taking Ford Motor
Company to court.
I am not a lawyer, however, and this is just my advice. I don't know if Fred
is the original owner and if he has different (or less) rights if he is not
the original purchaser of the vehicle.
I do know that your vehicle should *NEVER* catch on fire under "normal"
operation. You have every right to have a safe vehicle, Fred.
Let us know how you are able to resolve the situation. Good luck!
* Dave Slotter
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:27:18 -0700
From: Adam McLaughlin
Subject: Re: FTE Small - re: help with explorer CD receiver

But I thought that Philidelphia was the city of brotherly love?!

Adam

At 11:43 AM 6/17/99 -0600, you wrote:
>I recently bought a 96 explorer sport and upgraded the sound system. I
>originally bought a head unit from crutchfield and was all ready to install
>it when I talked to a local auto radio dealer. The instructions from
>crutchfield seemed adequate but the dealer told me that since I was putting
>in a Sony unit I would not get the same warranty if I installed it myself.
>By going through an authorized Sony dealer I have a warranty so that if the
>head unit is ever stolen, with or without the car, I can get a new unit as
>long as I hold the removable faceplate. Not a bad deal since I live in
>Philadelphia and have to park on the street. The system I got included the
>CD head unit, two new MB Quart front speakers and a JBL stealth box (sub
>goes in that pocket in the rear wheel well) along with an amp. The sound
>improvement is phenomenal. I was told this was the best I could do for the
>money. As far as the factory amp, they set it up so that it only fires the
>rear speakers. If I had not gotten the sub I would have used the head
>unit's amp to power all the speakers. I was told that this would make the
>sound better. Hope this helps.
>
>-steve
>
>Stephen Steinbrook
>215-563-4244 x322
>ssteinbr ch2m.com
>
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 18:56:02 -0700
From: "Ryan Miller"
Subject: FTE Small - Hot Bronco II

My '87 BII (4WD, 2.9, AT)is running hot. The needle stays in the upper
quarter of the temp gauge (around the "O" in "NORMAL", for those with the
same gauge). With the temperatures now getting into the '90's outside, I'm
getting a little nervous. The coolant and oil levels are good and I recently
changed out the thermostat, so I'm not sure what else to check. Radiator and
water pump? How do you check these, short of swapping them out? Any other
ideas?

Ryan

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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 23:24:28 -0400
From: "David A. Cooley"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Hot Bronco II

At 06:56 PM 6/17/99 -0700, you wrote:
>My '87 BII (4WD, 2.9, AT)is running hot. The needle stays in the upper
>quarter of the temp gauge (around the "O" in "NORMAL", for those with the
>same gauge). With the temperatures now getting into the '90's outside, I'm
>getting a little nervous. The coolant and oil levels are good and I recently
>changed out the thermostat, so I'm not sure what else to check. Radiator and
>water pump? How do you check these, short of swapping them out? Any other
>ideas?

Fan clutch.
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:52:39 -0500
From: Jordan Dean
Subject: Re: FTE Small - help with Explorer and cd receiver

>Well,
>Just pulled the inside pass. side rear cover... There it was!
>I guess this means the factory stereo has low level outputs... Guess I just
>need a bigger amp!

just fyi, my system sounds AWESOME in my explorer, and here is what I've
done, the head unit is a Clarion 30x4 (I merely bypassed the low quality
factory amp, and trashed the cd player). I replaced all 4 speakers in the
doors with pioneer 6x8's (the ones with the upgraded tweeter, from
Crutchfield). And then for bass I have an mtx thunderform box with a 10"
thunder 5000 sub (this is the most awesome 10" sub I have EVER heard), and
a U.S. Acoustics 200watt (rms) amp running the sub. It is mixed really
well and like I said, the bass can really hold its own.
Jordan

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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 23:59:49 -0400
From: "David A. Cooley"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - help with Explorer and cd receiver

At 10:52 PM 6/17/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>Well,
>>Just pulled the inside pass. side rear cover... There it was!
>>I guess this means the factory stereo has low level outputs... Guess I just
>>need a bigger amp!
>
>just fyi, my system sounds AWESOME in my explorer, and here is what I've
>done, the head unit is a Clarion 30x4 (I merely bypassed the low quality
>factory amp, and trashed the cd player). I replaced all 4 speakers in the
>doors with pioneer 6x8's (the ones with the upgraded tweeter, from
>Crutchfield). And then for bass I have an mtx thunderform box with a 10"
>thunder 5000 sub (this is the most awesome 10" sub I have EVER heard), and
>a U.S. Acoustics 200watt (rms) amp running the sub. It is mixed really
>well and like I said, the bass can really hold its own.

Is the sub in the right rear side where the amp hides or a seperate box
across the back?
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Packet: N5XMT KQ4LO.#INT.NC.USA.NA T.A.P.R. Member #7068
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:29:12 -0700
From: "Ryan Miller"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Hot Bronco II

>David Cooley wrote:

>Fan clutch.


Okay, what about it? I'm not sure what the norm is for these. Mine turns
fairly freely by hand. I mean, you can't spin it, but there's not a lot of
resistance. Is this how it's suppose to be? The fan also turns when the
engine runs. I don't have a lot of experience with this kind of fan. The
cars I've had in the past had electric fans.

Thanks,

Ryan

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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:49:49 -0700
From: Matthew Baldwin
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Hot Bronco II

A lot of small Ford engines, like my 2.8L Ranger have a clutch driven
fan. This is really not much more than a springloaded apparatus that
enagages the clutch (which drives the fan) when the engine temperature
reaches a certain operating temp (when your engine needs the cooling
effect of the fan). This, supposedly, reduces the work of the engine by
only having the fan operating directly from the engine as needed. There
are two usual malfunctions of the fan/fan clutch assembly. Either it is
stuck in the on position (always in drive) or it is not kicking in at
all. With the former situation you will notice a loss of performance,
with the latter you will notice overheating. A simple solution to all
of this is to get an electric fan conversion kit. However, if the
electrics of this apparatus go, you will be equally as hooped. There ia
the argument, however, that the electric fan will boost performance of
your engine by reducing the amount of work that the engine has to do.

I hope that this helps.

All the best,

Matt Baldwin,
303,000 Km on an '85 Ranger! Never looked better.



Ryan Miller wrote:
>
> >David Cooley wrote:
>....

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