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small-list-digest Wednesday, June 16 1999 Volume 03 : Number 149

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In this issue:

FTE Small - Tank Sealer
RE: FTE Small - Cleaning up
RE: FTE Small - Cleaning up
RE: FTE Small - Cleaning up
FTE Small - help with Explorer and cd receiver
FTE Small - AC Fire
FTE Small - Re:
Re: FTE Small - help with Explorer and cd receiver
Re: FTE Small - AC Fire
Re: FTE Small - help with Explorer and cd receiver

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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:39:51 -0700
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE Small - Tank Sealer

"The JC Whitney catalog shows two different liquid products intended to
seal up old gas tanks. The idea is that you drop the tank, dump the
stuff in, and rotate the tank a lot, sloshing it all around until it
dries, sealing everything."

A good motorcycle shop should have a similar product,of better quality.
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:53:26 -0500
From: Mike Harms
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Cleaning up

>>Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:36:18 -0700
>>From: Adam McLaughlin
>>Subject: FTE Small - Cleaning up

>>Does anyone have any ideas or tips on what I could do or use to clean up
my
>>street? I dropped some dirty brake fluid on it in front of the house when
I
>>...

What type of street is it? Blacktop or Concrete? If Concrete, check with a
local concrete company and see where you can get some stuff to clean up oil
stains. If blacktop, you can try to clean it, but remember, blacktop is an
petroleum based material that breaks down as the petroleum evaporates over
time. Any oil type material is going to be absorbed by the blacktop and may
never come off. A local blacktop company may give you some hits on flushing
it out but you probably will never get it back the way it was.
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:30:10 -0400
From: Dave Slotter
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Cleaning up

At 10:53 AM -0500 6/15/99, Mike Harms wrote:
> >>Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:36:18 -0700
>>>From: Adam McLaughlin
>>>Subject: FTE Small - Cleaning up
>
>>>Does anyone have any ideas or tips on what I could do or use to clean up
>my
>>>street? I dropped some dirty brake fluid on it in front of the house when
>I
> >>...
>
>What type of street is it? Blacktop or Concrete? If Concrete, check with a
>local concrete company and see where you can get some stuff to clean up oil
>stains. If blacktop, you can try to clean it, but remember, blacktop is an
>petroleum based material that breaks down as the petroleum evaporates over
>time. Any oil type material is going to be absorbed by the blacktop and may
>never come off. A local blacktop company may give you some hits on flushing
>it out but you probably will never get it back the way it was.

I have noticed over time that the blacktop will absorb the oil which
has dripped on to it... This is over a matter of months, however. I'm
sure that the rains help somewhat as well.

So if you do nothing, it will clear itself up over time if it's
blacktop. But you may want to see what you can do to help speed up
the process...

It is a street after all - not a driveway. If the street was pretty
clean beforehand, I can see your parent's viewpoint. But if the
street has other oil stains, then I don't see what the big deal is.

- -Dave
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:54:28 -0500
From: "Tony Rio (Chicago)"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Cleaning up

It's kinda nice to see someone clean up after themselves... It drives me
nuts when the kid from across the street parks his beater in front of my
house and I have to yell at the dog to keep him from licking at the oil spot
the kid's car left. It's like the dog has toxic radar. If it will make him
sick, he bee-lines for it.

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> Subject: RE: FTE Small - Cleaning up
>
>
> At 10:53 AM -0500 6/15/99, Mike Harms wrote:
> > >>Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:36:18 -0700
> >>>From: Adam McLaughlin
> >>>Subject: FTE Small - Cleaning up
> >
> >>>Does anyone have any ideas or tips on what I could do or use
> to clean up
> >my
> >>>street? I dropped some dirty brake fluid on it in front of the
> house when
> >I
> > >>...
> >
> >What type of street is it? Blacktop or Concrete? If Concrete,
> check with a
> >local concrete company and see where you can get some stuff to
> clean up oil
> >stains. If blacktop, you can try to clean it, but remember,
> blacktop is an
> >petroleum based material that breaks down as the petroleum
> evaporates over
> >time. Any oil type material is going to be absorbed by the
> blacktop and may
> >never come off. A local blacktop company may give you some hits
> on flushing
> >it out but you probably will never get it back the way it was.
>

>

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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:28:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: International Man of Mystery
Subject: FTE Small - help with Explorer and cd receiver

I was considering purchasing a cd receiver from
Crutchfield for my 1997 Explorer (non-JBL, 4-door,
with auto set button). Unfortunately, it requires (as
far as I understand) either a $90 accessory or a
bypass harness(?). I'd prefer to use the bypass
harness as it's free, but the Crutchfield site says
that I would then have to run a wire from the cd
receiver to the rear of my vehicle. Has anyone had to
do this and had good results? If so, is it worth it?
Is it difficult? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Matt Groff

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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:12:01 -0500
From: fwise

juno.com
Subject: FTE Small - AC Fire

I had a cheery little blaze erupt in my Ranger A/C evaporator plenum this
weekend. I smelled burning leaves, then had white smoke flood the cab
from the vents. Shut down the A/C, pulled over, popped the hood and put
out the fire.

In talking to another Ranger owner, I found that this is a fairly common
problem, with leaves apparently migrating from the cowl vents into the
plenum where they come in contact with some hot component. He took his to
the dealer, and they said, "Yeah, that happens a lot." The repair wasn't
cheap.

I have several questions:
1. Since this appears to be a frequent occurrence, does Ford offer any
type of extended warranty repair for what seems to be a design flaw
(Don't laugh, I figure it's worth asking about)?

2. Assuming the answer to #1 is no, does anyone know what parts I will
need, and whether the plenum is available for less than two arms and a
leg? I haven't checked the junk yards yet, but I will do that.

3. Is it going to be as much of a pain as it looks like to remove the
plenum?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated

Fred Wise
'94 Ranger Supercab 3.0L

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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:21:20 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: FTE Small - Re:

Larry Brown wrote:
>
> Does any one , or rather can any one tell me how to hook up my fog lights
> so they only work when the headlights are on?
> A wireing diagram would be nice also.

Go to the FTE web site and look at the article about using a relay to
boost the light output of older Ford trucks; this'll give you a good
diagram for how to wire a relay. With this in mind tap into the
headlight circuit and let *it* energize the relay going to the
fog/driving lights. Legally fog lamps should be wired into the low beam
circuit and driving lights on the high beamers. I wouldn't advise using
the headlight circuit itself to directly power the lights as most Ford
headlight switches are marginal for any extra current draw, hence the
relay. ;-)

To describe it another way:
1) Use the low beam circuit to power the coil of the relay
2) Wire your aux. light switch to the ground side of the relay coil and
to ground
3) Battery + to the main relay ckt
4) Other relay terminal goes to the power side of the lights

Hope this helps!

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Custer Auto Repair
Wilmington NC USA

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> suffering from some form of mental illness. Think of your three best
> friends. If they're okay, then it's you."
> -Rita Mae Brown
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:34:15 -0400
From: "David A. Cooley"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - help with Explorer and cd receiver

At 04:28 PM 6/15/99 -0700, you wrote:
>I was considering purchasing a cd receiver from
>Crutchfield for my 1997 Explorer (non-JBL, 4-door,
>with auto set button). Unfortunately, it requires (as
>far as I understand) either a $90 accessory or a
>bypass harness(?). I'd prefer to use the bypass
>harness as it's free, but the Crutchfield site says
>that I would then have to run a wire from the cd
>receiver to the rear of my vehicle. Has anyone had to
>do this and had good results? If so, is it worth it?
>Is it difficult? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Matt,
Did they say what the wire was for?
It's pretty easy to run a wire from front to back on the explorers... The
plastic that covers the entry on each side pops out of the floor, the
carpet peels back, and the factory wires are in a trough... easy to lay
another one in there.
Does your 97 have the cd changer or is that why your upgrading?

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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:39:56 -0400
From: "David A. Cooley"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - AC Fire

Fred,
If you can get enough documented cases to prove it's a common occurence,
you can contact the federal trade commission and the Department of
transportation and have Ford forced into a recall and grandfather making
the repair a warranted item regardless of mileage.

At 07:12 PM 6/15/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I had a cheery little blaze erupt in my Ranger A/C evaporator plenum this
>weekend. I smelled burning leaves, then had white smoke flood the cab
>from the vents. Shut down the A/C, pulled over, popped the hood and put
>out the fire.
>
>In talking to another Ranger owner, I found that this is a fairly common
>problem, with leaves apparently migrating from the cowl vents into the
>plenum where they come in contact with some hot component. He took his to
>the dealer, and they said, "Yeah, that happens a lot." The repair wasn't
>cheap.
>
>I have several questions:
>1. Since this appears to be a frequent occurrence, does Ford offer any
>type of extended warranty repair for what seems to be a design flaw
>(Don't laugh, I figure it's worth asking about)?
>
>2. Assuming the answer to #1 is no, does anyone know what parts I will
>need, and whether the plenum is available for less than two arms and a
>leg? I haven't checked the junk yards yet, but I will do that.
>
>3. Is it going to be as much of a pain as it looks like to remove the
>plenum?
>
>Any advice will be greatly appreciated
>
>Fred Wise
>'94 Ranger Supercab 3.0L
>
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