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In this issue:

FTE Small - Re:
FTE Small - Re:
FTE Small - Re:
FTE Small - not again!!
FTE Small - Aerostar wiring
FTE Small - body lift
Re: FTE Small - Re:
Re: FTE Small - STX/4WD Air dam w/ driving lights
Re: FTE Small - Re:
Re: FTE Small - not again!!
Re: FTE Small - Re:
Re: FTE Small - My Ford Explorer.
Re: FTE Small - Re:
Re: FTE Small - My Ford Explorer.

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:35:30 GMT
From: alannorthstar mindspring.com
Subject: FTE Small - Re:

On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:05:14 -0400, you wrote:

:Could anyone give me an idea what I would expect to pay for 2 new front
:clips on my 85 B2. I just got into an accident and need them. The left
:fender pinched the hood shut and the right fender pinched the door shut.=
=20
:Thanks.
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:36:10 GMT
From: alannorthstar mindspring.com
Subject: FTE Small - Re:

On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:52:04 -0500, you wrote:

:My '84 Bronco II has developed a problem.
:99% of the time when you start it and then let go of the key, the =
starter
:keeps running.
:I've replaced the starter solenoid and ingnition switch.

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:36:30 GMT
From: alannorthstar mindspring.com
Subject: FTE Small - Re:

On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:52:04 -0500, you wrote:

:My '84 Bronco II has developed a problem.
:99% of the time when you start it and then let go of the key, the =
starter
:keeps running.
:I've replaced the starter solenoid and ingnition switch.
:Also after starting it, if I pull the wire connected to the "s" terminal=
on
:the solenoid the starter quits and the motor continues running.
:One time out of 100 it starts o.k.
:
:The truck has:
:2.8 6 - cylinder
:Automatic
:Dura - spark ignition module
:
:The wiring has been gone over pretty well and much of it re-done.
:This was a $600 truck.
:It was working fine - then this started ( it maight have started after I
:replaced the alternator - not quite sure )
:oh, I forgot:
:Tried manualy starting with the ignition switch without it being =
installed,
:and it popped back from start position when I let go of it, but the =
starter
:continued to run. had to pull it back to " off " to stop the starter
:running
:I've unwrapped and inspected most of the wire
:( couldn't get to the bit in front of the radiator )
:but found nothing.
:
:
:Any help or suggestions welcomed.
:Thanks!
:
:
:
:SPECTRE
:
:IF YOU CANT DAZZLE THEM WITH BRILLIANCE,
:RIDDLE THEM WITH BULLETS.
:
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:18:02 -0500
From: "Charles Rogers"
Subject: FTE Small - not again!!

I know we have discussed this before, but I don't remember this aspect in
the conversation or I would just check the archives. I have the notorioius
'86 2.9L V6 in my Ranger. At 94K miles I am approaching the point where
this engine warps cylinder heads. My question is: Outside of proper
maintenance of the cooling system, what can I do to ward off this evil? Or
is my best bet to not worry, let it happen, and rebuild with aftermarket
heads?

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:39:41 +0200
From: Jonny Berkley
Subject: FTE Small - Aerostar wiring

Does anyone have a wiring chart for a '93 Aerostar?
I'm looking for the wire to the horn from where it leaves the steering column.

Jonny Berkley.
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:54:16 -0500
From: "Randy Collins"
Subject: FTE Small - body lift

i'm thinking of installing a small body lift, say 2" or so, on my 98 ranger
4x4. any suggestions on brand? expected cost? experiences? tia

ran
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:11:30 -0400
From: Tom Kirkbride
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re:

Dude, lay off the rum

On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:35:30 GMT alannorthstar mindspring.com writes:
> On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:05:14 -0400, you wrote:
>
> :Could anyone give me an idea what I would expect to pay for 2 new
> front
> :clips on my 85 B2. I just got into an accident and need them. The
> left
> :fender pinched the hood shut and the right fender pinched the door
> shut.
> :Thanks.
> :___________________________________________________________________
>
> Please don't ask questions by direct email -- please send them to
> the Ford Enthusiast's newsgroup, instead.
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>

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:36:53 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - STX/4WD Air dam w/ driving lights

Anthony Rifici wrote:
>
> I posted this a few days ago, but list activity seems to have been low
> and I got no responses, so I am re-posting in hopes that the weekend will
> bring some interest.

Probably nobody knows for sure! I'll speculate though. ;-)

> I have decided with putting on the front air dam and light setup from
> the STX/4WD Rangers.

> I saw that I have the electrical connectors under the front bumper
> already wired in from the factory, is this just a plug in installation? If
> so, is there also a connector for the fog light switch and where is it
> located? If it isn't just a plug in, what is involved?

Generally speaking most vehicles have the same wiring harness and the
accessories are plugged in as it's built; you probably do have the
requisite wiring in place but will need to get the switch and relay from
Ford. (Or use aftermarket equivalents.) I'd suggest doing a little
research with a wiring diagram and DMM; if everything is in place then
certainly do it 'OEM' style as the lights will work the way the DOT
prefers (requires?) that way.


Keep us posted!

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Custer Auto Repair
Wilmington NC
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:47:58 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re:

alannorthstar mindspring.com wrote:
>
> On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:52:04 -0500, you wrote:
>
> :My '84 Bronco II has developed a problem.
> :99% of the time when you start it and then let go of the key, the starter
> :keeps running.
> :I've replaced the starter solenoid and ingnition switch.
> :Also after starting it, if I pull the wire connected to the "s" terminal on
> :the solenoid the starter quits and the motor continues running.

When you replaced the solenoid how well did the screws seat during
tightening? The solenoid gets it's ground through them. You might also
want to re check the adjustment of the ignition switch; if you can turn
the key back just a hair from 'run' and the starter stops and the engine
keeps running then that's (likely) the problem.

Tim
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:59:24 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - not again!!

Charles Rogers wrote:
>
> I know we have discussed this before, but I don't remember this aspect in
> the conversation or I would just check the archives. I have the notorioius
> '86 2.9L V6 in my Ranger. At 94K miles I am approaching the point where
> this engine warps cylinder heads.

Actually.. cracks. :-(

> My question is: Outside of proper
> maintenance of the cooling system, what can I do to ward off this evil?

That's probably the key.. for some reason Fords like to turn the
coolant into mud without proper service

> is my best bet to not worry, let it happen, and rebuild with aftermarket
> heads?

Do the service(s) and if it happens replace the one that cracks with one
from 'world performance'; usually only one head will let go and the
other hangs in there just fine afterwards. Of course Ford denies having
any problem with these heads... By percentages maybe they dont, but
it's still common enough to be known.

Tim
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:50:34 -0500
From: "SPECTRE"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re:

I'll check it out, thanks

SPECTRE

IF YOU CANT DAZZLE THEM WITH BRILLIANCE,
RIDDLE THEM WITH BULLETS.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Turner
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re:


>
>
> alannorthstar mindspring.com wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:52:04 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> > :My '84 Bronco II has developed a problem.
> > :99% of the time when you start it and then let go of the key, the
starter
> > :keeps running.
> > :I've replaced the starter solenoid and ingnition switch.
> > :Also after starting it, if I pull the wire connected to the "s"
terminal on
> > :the solenoid the starter quits and the motor continues running.
>
> When you replaced the solenoid how well did the screws seat during
> tightening? The solenoid gets it's ground through them. You might also
> want to re check the adjustment of the ignition switch; if you can turn
> the key back just a hair from 'run' and the starter stops and the engine
> keeps running then that's (likely) the problem.
>
> Tim
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>

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:20:49 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - My Ford Explorer.

Neil Brownlee wrote:
>
> I need some help. I live in the UK, and my Explorer (1998) was involved in
> an accident. I have been waiting for a chassis for 6 weeks now.

Am I remiss in thinking that chassis is the UK equivalent of 'frame' in
the US? That must have been a pretty bad shunt..

> Ford USA
> (who are the suppliers) are telling me that I would have to wait the same
> amount of time in the US as here in the UK. This sucks. I will be without my
> Explorer for up to 3 months while they rebuild it!

I think I would ask for another vehicle.. raise Hell with Ford and your
insurance company. Tell them every minor thing you see will be right
back for repair until it's right. I've seen a $14,000 USD repair go to
$20,000 before the truck was 'close' to before and the 'total loss'
point was $15,000... His insurance company dropped the ball there!

>
> Has anyone else ever had an Explorer rebuilt on a new chassis? I don;t think
> the UK mechanics are up to it, and I'm worried.

Hell.. I dont think any mechanic is up to it; need a combo of a body
man, a frame man and a electronics man. In essence you're talking about
a COMPLTETE rebuild/restoration of the body. If I were doing it I'd ask
for 3 months of time. (A year for my own vehicle.. the 3 mo's. was
through the shop!)

> I need some addresses to
> complain to. I tried the customer assistance centre here in the UK, no
> result, and the US? No result. Argh!

That's umm... well... my mind boggles for words. It seems like so much
labor involved that it would have been much better to 'loss' the
vehicle. If you do get the vehicle back sell it ASAP!

Raise Hell and demand a Rover... settle for a new Explorer. ;-)

Tim
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:42:32 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re:

Tom Kirkbride wrote:
>
> Dude, lay off the rum
>

No.. that's my Fiancee; I like Icehouse and a tot of Jagermeister
myself. ;-)

Tim

Keyboards are as hard to work as vehicles after a few..
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:35:15 +0100
From: "Neil Brownlee"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - My Ford Explorer.

Tim,

Thanks for the advice. A frame is indeed the chassis. I am pushing soooooooo
hard here it is unreal, but still they won;t move. I am taking a mechanic
with me to check out the Explorer before I take it... I am the guy who
complains about a tiny squeak.....*grin*

Neil

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Turner
To:
Sent: 21 April 1999 04:20
Subject: Re: FTE Small - My Ford Explorer.


>
>
> Neil Brownlee wrote:
> >
> > I need some help. I live in the UK, and my Explorer (1998) was involved
in
> > an accident. I have been waiting for a chassis for 6 weeks now.
>
> Am I remiss in thinking that chassis is the UK equivalent of 'frame' in
> the US? That must have been a pretty bad shunt..
>
> > Ford USA
> > (who are the suppliers) are telling me that I would have to wait the
same
> > amount of time in the US as here in the UK. This sucks. I will be
without my
> > Explorer for up to 3 months while they rebuild it!
>
> I think I would ask for another vehicle.. raise Hell with Ford and your
> insurance company. Tell them every minor thing you see will be right
> back for repair until it's right. I've seen a $14,000 USD repair go to
> $20,000 before the truck was 'close' to before and the 'total loss'
> point was $15,000... His insurance company dropped the ball there!
>
> >
> > Has anyone else ever had an Explorer rebuilt on a new chassis? I don;t
think
> > the UK mechanics are up to it, and I'm worried.
>
> Hell.. I dont think any mechanic is up to it; need a combo of a body
> man, a frame man and a electronics man. In essence you're talking about
> a COMPLTETE rebuild/restoration of the body. If I were doing it I'd ask
> for 3 months of time. (A year for my own vehicle.. the 3 mo's. was
> through the shop!)
>
> > I need some addresses to
> > complain to. I tried the customer assistance centre here in the UK, no
> > result, and the US? No result. Argh!
>
> That's umm... well... my mind boggles for words. It seems like so much
....


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