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In this issue:

Re: FTE Small - re: BII Shocks
FTE Small - Self-test connector
Re: FTE Small - Self-test connector
Re: FTE Small - Self-test connector
Re: FTE Small - Self-test connector
Re: FTE Small - power steering gear leaking
Re: FTE Small - power steering gear leaking
Re: FTE Small - Check engine light
FTE Small - Squeeky Clutch Pedel
Re: FTE Small - Bronco II `88
Re: FTE Small - '98 Ranger Speedo correction?????
Re: FTE Small - 88 2.3 EFI Help
Re: FTE Small - '86 Ford Ranger Auto Trans
Re: FTE Small - Squeeky Clutch Pedel

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:27:51 EDT
From: FrdRngrLvr aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - re: BII Shocks

$35 a piece...if you go to auto zone you can get the SUV ones for $14.99 and
the heavy duty gas VST for $24.99. I have had them both the suv is better for
off-road because the VST is a stiff ride, but it is much better for on-road
hauling.


Jim
96 Ranger "wave" 160HP 4-cylinder
84 Ranger 4x4
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:04:16 -0700
From: "Tim J. Clevenger"
Subject: FTE Small - Self-test connector

Hi all.

I went hunting for the self-test connector on my '86 Ranger 2.3L last =
night. The Haynes manual mentions a six-pin connector and a one-pin =
connector somewhere on the passenger side of the engine compartment. I =
couldn't find anything like it. Anybody have a little more specific =
information, or is there a site I can look at?

Regards,

Tim Clevenger
'83 Ranger 2WD 2.3L (parts truck) 166k
'86 Ranger 2WD 2.3L (daily driver) 183k

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FTE Small - Bronco II Lift Kit?
FTE Small - Attack/Shocks
FTE Small - re: Shocks for B II -- Any recommendations?
FTE Small - re: BII Shocks

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:43:02 EDT
From: PNSWRNKEL aol.com
Subject: FTE Small - Bronco II Lift Kit?

Hey all. im new to the list, but not to off-roading. I have a 1988 =
Bronco=20
II. I am looking to put a 5" or 6" lift kit with a 3" body lift, and =
35"=20
Thornbird tires. Has anyone lifted their bronco II or know anything =
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parts I will have to replace, like driveshaft, tranny, etc......? If =
anyone=20
know anything to do with this, please let me know. Thanks alot.

Daniel.
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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:10:37 -0700
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE Small - Attack/Shocks

"I just have to ask, did you ever take an English class?"

Compleleteely unculled fer.Sum of us are just mur cumfertable wit
renches dan kayboards.(All mispelling deliberate just to irritate you.)

I have always had good luck with KYB shocks.
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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 99 18:10:00 EDT
From: CONAN RALVM8.VNET.IBM.COM
Subject: FTE Small - re: Shocks for B II -- Any recommendations?

Hi Keith,
I don't know how much other brands sell for, but I tend to put
Bilstein shocks on everything. :-) NORMALLY they are quite expensive,
as you mention, HOWEVER, Bilstein has been trying to build market share
in the truck market and have had real good pricing on -truck- sizes for
a good while now. Last I heard they were in the $50-60each range. I
can't say about other truck shocks but, for Bilsteins, that's cheap.
Auto Sport Gallery 1-800-868-2002 in Raleigh NC is who I order
from. They accept credit cards and will ship.
WARNING: The owner IS a friend of mine, but I get NO kickback. :-)
He (Tom Bishop) uses them on all his vehicles too.
Ed in NC
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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:28:54 PDT
From: "Joe Mitchell"
Subject: FTE Small - re: BII Shocks

From: "Pete Lawless"

>Replying to Keith Christensen

>Edelbrock's are also supposed to be very good (high-end $$)
>Later..... Pete

Replying to anyone who cares ;)

I recently (two days ago) replaced the shocks on my 91 Ranger. For my=20
driving (lots of bumps on road, mild off-roading, and usually driving=20
fast on both) purposes, I went with Gabriel. They are great for my=20
purposes, and were much cheaper than Edelbrocks. I looked into=20
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peice). Hey, I'm just 16. If you're looking to put more money than I=20
did into it, I would recomend Edelbrock's, as I know a few people=20
(4 or 5) with trucks/SUVS who use them and they are very good off and=20
on road. I would have got them on mine, but as i said, I'm only 16 and=20
just couldn't afford the price tag.... Oh, and the Gabriel shocks were=20
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:17:45 -0400
From: "Anthony Rifici"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Self-test connector

>I went hunting for the self-test connector on my '86 Ranger 2.3L last
night. The >Haynes manual mentions a six-pin connector and a one-pin
connector >somewhere on the passenger side of the engine compartment. I
couldn't find >anything like it. Anybody have a little more specific
information, or is there a site >I can look at?


I don't know about the older ones, but this might give you some idea of
where to look. My '94 4.0L has the larger connector attached to the relay
box on the drivers side inner fender. The smaller connector was taped up
into the wiring harness below the relay box, also on the drivers side. It
took forever to find it since it was almost completely wrapped in electrical
tape. By chance, I noticed the dirt cover for the connector poking through
the tape. Of course, I couldn't get the test to work when I found it, but
that's another story.

Good Luck,
Tony
'94 Ranger, 4.0L, 5-Speed


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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:31:34 -0600
From: "David Herron"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Self-test connector

>I went hunting for the self-test connector on my '86 Ranger 2.3L last
night. The >Haynes manual mentions a six-pin connector and a one-pin
connector >somewhere on the passenger side of the engine compartment. I
couldn't find >anything like it. Anybody have a little more specific
information, or is there a site >I can look at?

Hey -

I have an '86 Ranger 2.3, too, and I found it dropped down behind the air
filter assembly, on the passenger side. I had to dig around a bit, but it
had just dropped down pretty low. It should be a red connector, or at least
it was on mine. Hope that helps,

--Dave

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:20:32 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Self-test connector

"Tim J. Clevenger" wrote:
>
> Hi all.
>
> I went hunting for the self-test connector on my '86 Ranger 2.3L last night. The Haynes manual mentions a six-pin connector and a one-pin connector somewhere on the passenger side of the engine compartment. I couldn't find anything like it. Anybody have a little more specific information, or is there a site I can look at?

If you have the black cover on the passenger side fenderwell try looking
*under* it, it might have been tucked underneath. It's an odd shaped
connector, sort of like a house hit by a tree.

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:37:51 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - power steering gear leaking

Donald Paauw wrote:
>
> My '88 Ranger with 120k miles has a power steering gear that
> is leaking fluid; the pump & hoses are clean.
> It seems to be leaking even when the engine isn't running.
> Do I just replace the entire unit or is it repairable?

Is money an issue? If so then take off the gearbox and replace the
bottom (shaft) seal; you'll have to take the shaft out from the top
though and proper adjustment during the refit is a *MUST*. Too tight
and the steering will not return to center and too loose yields much
slop in the steering. (Did both on mine.. hasty repairs are
ill-advised.. nasty to drive with no return!) The seal is around $17 US
or so and a reman box is $150

> Also, are any special tools required and what's a reasonable
> cost.

Other than a description of the procedure to follow for setting the
sector shaft pre-load and whatever it requires no fancy tools involved.

Good luck; having done it 5X in my driveway (No procedure handy) in 100+
temps I'd get the box in retrospect. :-)

Tim
85 B-II
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 99 19:39:17 PDT
From: don neomagic.com (Donald Paauw)
Subject: Re: FTE Small - power steering gear leaking

>
> Good luck; having done it 5X in my driveway (No procedure handy) in 100+
> temps I'd get the box in retrospect. :-)
>

I think I'll shop for a box. Thanks.

- -- Don
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:55:28 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Check engine light

Bakend aol.com wrote:
>
> We took our first road trip in the 95 Explorer this weekend. It has the 4.0
> with automatic OD and 36K miles. We took off on a 450 mile trip and at 200
> miles the "check engine" light came on and stayed.

Turn the engine off for 10 sec. and restart to shut the light off for a
while on pre-96 vehicles. The light comes on when the computer sees a
fault in the FI system

> After another 100 miles it
> went off and stayed off the rest of the way to the Black Hills. All was fine
> driving around in the Hills until we started back. Then at 100 miles the light
> came on and stayed until we stopped and shut it off. We spent the night in
> Gillette Wyo and headed home the next day. Once again at about 100 miles out
> the light came on again. I drove the rest of the 300 miles home with the light
> occasionally going off and then right back on. Any one with the 4.0 ever have
> similar experience with the check engine light? Any cures?

Most likely would be a lazy Oxygen sensor from what you describe;
possibly a restricted fuel filter causing the O2 to see a constant lean
condition. If you can pull the codes from the computer it'd help in
diagnosing the culprit. If not I'd suggest replacing the O2 and fuel
filter.

> Any info is greatly
> appreciated because this is the first Ford that I have been able to get my
> wife to buy and she is giving me that "I told you so" look.

GM has the same light.. It just means there's a 'detected' problem
somewhere in the computer system; It'll probably drive OK but does need
to be diagnosed to prevent further problems.

>The vehicle runs
> great and gets about 20 mpg. Really nice road vehicle!

Welcome to driving the *real* American vehicle! ;-)

Tim
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:47:37 -0400
From: Jeffrey Kornfeld
Subject: FTE Small - Squeeky Clutch Pedel

I have a 96 Ranger Ext. Cab 2.3L 5spd. The clutch pedel squeeks when
ever I press and let up on it. I sprayed penetrating Lubricant on with
no improvement at all. Has anyone have any suggestions?

Jeff Kornfeld


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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:17:06 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Bronco II `88

Just opinions of course.. and only mine.

Stephen Bozzone wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> I've been reading the posts here for a few weeks and they are all
> interesting. Reason I joined this list is I'm planning on purchasing a 1988
> Bronco II Eddie Bauer Edition.

Avoid the Eddie crap. All the power stuff is neat when new, but painful
to have fixed when old. If you dont mind the extra repair costs of the
'conveniences' then go ahead.

> I'm buying it from a friend for $2500 -- it
> has 92,000 miles, auto transmission. Few probs: pushbutton 4WD doesn't
> work,

Strike 1 for power stuff. A manual hub and lever setup would be working
fine.

> and AC is weak (i suspect it's just in need of some freon).

It's leaked out somewhere.. given the price of R-12 either get it fixed
or convert to R-134a.. I can name 6 or 7 common leak points for 88
Fords.

> It has a
> minor dent in the side, but otherwise, the interior and the exterior are
> fine.
>
> What do you think? Is it a good buy, for my first car? I have a limited
> budget and i know this car is getting old, and older cars are more
> susceptable to breakdowns and repairs.

I'd look for one without all the power stuff myself.. I assume your
repair $$ would be limited and I'd hate to see 'em wasted on making a
window go up as opposed to an oil change. Given that warning it does
sound like a nice price and the mileage is attractive. Flip a coin and
decide! ;-)

Tim
>
> Any feedback is apriciated... thanks,
>
> Steve Bozzone
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:28:25 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - '98 Ranger Speedo correction?????

Scott Ford wrote:
>

> when unplugged, no cable.) so basically does
> anyone know where the hell they pull the speed from.

A few possibilities.. I dont know on the 98 but earlier panels were
programmable from the head via certain button selections. I think after
96 you're screwed as the PCM needs to be re-programmed to the new tire
size by the dealer and if it's out of OEM parameters....

The signal comes from the VSS; you might be able to build a counter box
but it'd probably raise Hell with the PCM. In essence you cant modify
far from stock on anything beyond 96 without aftermarket mods.

Tim
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:32:07 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 88 2.3 EFI Help

"Lambert, John (CDTF)" wrote:
>
> Anyone please help.
>
> I drive this truck to work every day (65 miles), I've gotten really good at
> pushing clutch in and re-starting while driving in high speed traffic.
> This trial and error method is getting expensive.

Just for kicks have you tried a converter?

Tim
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:46:44 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - '86 Ford Ranger Auto Trans

Tom Kirkbride wrote:
>
> 22 mpg?!?! Thats insane! My 85 Bronco II gets less than 10. I dont
> think the truck was made to ever get more than 15 mpg. And what is this
> 8 plug engine?

You've got problems then.. My 85 used to get 18 CITY before the carb
and engine went bad. It's still 11 with 4.10s and 31.10.5s 22 Is easy
for highway still and used to get 26 or better. (at 55-60)


8 plug 4 cylinder; Nissan started it in 84 or so. Both plugs fire at
the same time for a different flame front and under certain conditions
only the intake side is in use. The idea makes sense but like most
Nissan stuff it's over-designed and problematic. I hated that Ford
followed that lead. Obviously it worked for emissions or whatever it
was designed for..

Tim
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 02:16:01 -0400
From: "Anthony Rifici"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Squeeky Clutch Pedel

>I have a 96 Ranger Ext. Cab 2.3L 5spd. The clutch pedel squeeks when
>ever I press and let up on it. I sprayed penetrating Lubricant on with
>no improvement at all. Has anyone have any suggestions?
>


Possibly a slave cylinder problem. Have someone press on the clutch
while you are under the truck (w/ the inspection cover off) to see if it is
indeed the slave cylinder. Slave cylinder failures seem to be common to
these vehicles. If the noise is not coming from the slave cylinder, but the
pedal itself, then your life just got alot easier. Take off the clutch
interlock switch, lubricate the hell out of the rod going through the
firewall, put the switch back on, and all should be well. I have had both
problems w/ my '94 Ranger 4.0L, the slave cylinder replacement cost
mega-bucks, since it happened in the middle of winter and I had no choice....


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