small-list-digest Saturday, April 3 1999 Volume 03 : Number 075



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In this issue:

FTE Small - ADMIN: Pigeon Forge F100 Supernationals
FTE Small - Re: check engine light
FTE Small - 94 explorer hot dash
FTE Small - Re: Check Engine Light
Re: FTE Small - 94 explorer hot dash
FTE Small - FS: 1987 Ford Ranger Pickup
Re: FTE Small - 94 explorer hot dash
Re: FTE Small - Re: Check Engine Light
Re: FTE Small - 94 explorer hot dash
Re: FTE Small - Re: Check Engine Light
Re: FTE Small - Re: check engine light
FTE Small - Re:Check engine light

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Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 09:40:22 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Small - ADMIN: Pigeon Forge F100 Supernationals

Ford Truck Enthusiasts has reserved a block of 40 rooms at
Days Inn Pigeon Forge for the F100 Supernationals, May 13 - 16. The
rates for the rooms are:
$34.00 + tax Sunday through Thursday
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This is a group rate, so be sure to mention Ford Truck Enthusiasts
when reserving your room. Rooms are first come, first served, of
course, and the last day to reserve at the group rate is April 15.
To make your reservation, call:
1-800-645-3079
We've also reserved tables for at least 40 people at Alan
Jackson's Show Car Cafe on Saturday at 9:00 AM for breakfast. Total
cost for the Breakfast Buffet is $8.00 per person. This price
includes tax and gratuity. To reserve your spot, email Don Neighbors
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by April 25 so we can give the folks at Alan Jackson's a head count.

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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:41:02 -0500
From: "Mike McNany"
Subject: FTE Small - Re: check engine light

Dennis, I've been reading the check engine stories with interest & finally
had to add this story. My 92 explorer (manual 5sp) never had the check
engine light come on until I replaced the worn out exhaust system at abt
60Kmiles & that was going up a medium but long grade coming home from the
shop I went to 40 miles away. After stopping, reviewing the owner's manual
that nothing serious was wrong, I restarted the explorer & drove home. I
assumed the engine was learning a new, less restrictive back pressure. The
light went out. For a long time after that, it would come on during extended
trips of over 4 hours driving, usually high speed travel, & it would come on
for 10-50 seconds, many times (can get you quite antsy) & then go out.
Frequently I had pinging (or knocking, I mix them up) accompany the check
engine light if going up an extended, steep hill at high speeds. At almost
100Kmiles, the light started coming on more frequently, so I took it to the
dealer. They checked the error codes, and replaced the throttle position
indicator (a frequently observed code that requires extra testing to verify)
and a fuel relay (don't know which one). Haven't had the light again for
3,500 miles so far.
Good Luck,
Mike

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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:42:43 -0700
From: "Howard and Patti Miller"
Subject: FTE Small - 94 explorer hot dash

After driving my 94 explorer for an hour or so everything behind the dash
gets to hot touch! it nearly melts cassetts in the player. my tach sticks
and i wonder if it is melted in back. I looked under the dash but cant see
if the heat ducts are dislodged. all the heat vents blow air when selected.
if i turn the heat control to cool everything cools down . the dealer tells
me its normal for the tape to get hot. I dont think it should get to point
of being sticky plastic though! anyone else had a similar problem? also i
read about all the check engine light problems and had a similar problem
when i bought my explorer used, it turned out to be a broken vacuum hose
that was on something to do with the throttle. my mother-inlaw has a 91
taurus with the high speed driving symptoms causing her check engine light
to come on. I hope this aint to long of a post! hpmiller msn.com



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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:05:34 -0600
From: "Gary Snook"
Subject: FTE Small - Re: Check Engine Light

One of the more common reasons for the "Check Engine" light is a dirty air
filter.

Hope this helps.
Gary

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>small-list-digest Friday, April 2 1999 Volume 03 : Number 074
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>FTE Small - Ford Ranger Recall
>Re: FTE Small - Ford Ranger Recall
>Re: FTE Small - Check engine light
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>Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 09:10:56 -0800
>From: "Alan Wilson"
>Subject: FTE Small - Ford Ranger Recall
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>I just got a notice that Ford is recalling 1998 and 1999 Rangers,
>F-series and Explorers for a faulty cruise control cable. Has anyone
>else heard about this?
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>Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 10:15:54 -0800
>From: "Michael D. Sheridan"
>Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ford Ranger Recall
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>Alan Wilson wrote:
>>
>> I just got a notice that Ford is recalling 1998 and 1999 Rangers,
>> F-series and Explorers for a faulty cruise control cable. Has anyone
>> else heard about this?
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>Yes, it's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cnnfn.com/quickenonfn/home_auto/wires/9903/26/ford_wg/
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>Take a look.
>
>Michael
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>Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 20:49:20 EST
>From: Bakend aol.com
>Subject: Re: FTE Small - Check engine light
>
>In a message dated 3/30/99 6:01:24 PM Mountain Standard Time, pms2 cdc.net
>writes:
>
>>
>> I had a 4.0 97 Ranger 5spd AOD that threw on the "check engine" light
>> for a day, then went out
>Thanks to all for the input! It seems to be fairly unanimous that the check
>engine light on these vehicles comes on from time to time without any
serious
>engine problems. The most common observation I recieved was that driving at
a
>higher rate of speed (80 mph) for extended periods tends to set off the
>"check engine" light. This was the situation with mine and I am planning to
>just observe it for a pattern and hope for the best. Kind of confusing
though
>that the "engine" light would indicate transmission problems, as well as
>emissions. Makes me wonder if the check engine comes on if you over heat or
>lose oil pressure?
>
>Dennis Baken
>95 Explorer
>87 Ranger
>67 Mustang
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Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 10:27:02 -0800
From: "Michael D. Sheridan"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 94 explorer hot dash

Howard and Patti Miller wrote:
>
> After driving my 94 explorer for an hour or so everything behind the dash
> gets to hot touch! it nearly melts cassetts in the player. my tach sticks
> and i wonder if it is melted in back. I looked under the dash but cant see
> if the heat ducts are dislodged. all the heat vents blow air when selected.
> if i turn the heat control to cool everything cools down . the dealer tells
> me its normal for the tape to get hot. I dont think it should get to point
> of being sticky plastic though! anyone else had a similar problem? also i
> read about all the check engine light problems and had a similar problem
> when i bought my explorer used, it turned out to be a broken vacuum hose
> that was on something to do with the throttle. my mother-inlaw has a 91
> taurus with the high speed driving symptoms causing her check engine light
> to come on. I hope this aint to long of a post!

Hi Howard and it's nice post:

Our Mazda B2500 does about the same thing as far
as the CDs go in the CD player except they are not
exactly to the melt down stage yet.

There IS a problem there with the way the dash is
put together as it gets way to hot to be right and
my experience has been that the dealer will tell
the customer anything he can get away with so...

Let's see we have that problem with the dash melting
down and the recall on the cruise control where the
throttle sticks, you know nothing much, I wonder
what is next for our truck with 3K miles on it?

Michael
1999 Mazda B2500
Reg Cab
5 speed
2.5L 4 Cylinder
California
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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:33:58 -0500
From: Dave Slotter
Subject: FTE Small - FS: 1987 Ford Ranger Pickup

I am posting this for a third-party. Reply directly to him. Do not
contact me since I do not have any more info.

FOR SALE:

1987 Ford Ranger Pickup 4x4 Auto

Mileage: 121,415
Used engine had 65,000 miles
Rebuilt transmission (tranny has 20,000 miles on)
Battery is 1 year old
Complete tune-up
New radiator
New fluids
Ready for inspection

Price: $3,500

Vehicle is located in Pittsburgh, PA.

Contact R.C. Gerenyi at 412-521-9975
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Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 10:55:44 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 94 explorer hot dash

Michael D. Sheridan wrote:

> Let's see we have that problem with the dash melting
> down and the recall on the cruise control where the
> throttle sticks, you know nothing much, I wonder
> what is next for our truck with 3K miles on it?
>

knocking on wood over here.... my '97 STX 4X4 Supercab remains
untroubled at 20 months and 20,000 miles...

Reliablity-wise, this truck is as trouble-free as the Toyota it
replaced.

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tcgrafx... among other things
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Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 15:50:06 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re: Check Engine Light

At 12:05 PM 4/2/99 -0600, you wrote:
>One of the more common reasons for the "Check Engine" light is a dirty air
>filter.
>
>Hope this helps.
>Gary
>

Please trim out the digest when replying.

Thanks,
Ken Payne
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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:28:07 EST
From: Bakend aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 94 explorer hot dash

In a message dated 4/2/99 10:46:42 AM Mountain Standard Time,
hpmiller email.msn.com writes:

> After driving my 94 explorer for an hour or so everything behind the dash
> gets to hot touch! It nearly melts cassettes in the player.

My daughter took the cassette out on our 95 Explorer and said "ouch!" The
thing really has a kick butt heater and I just assumed that was the cause of
the hot cassette. I guess that bears watching as well. Let us know of any
further developments!
D Baken
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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:29:12 EST
From: Bakend aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re: Check Engine Light

In a message dated 4/2/99 11:05:06 AM Mountain Standard Time, gsnook kca.net
writes:

> One of the more common reasons for the "Check Engine" light is a dirty air
> filter.
Good thought, but it is brand new. Thanks Gary
Dennis Baken
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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:35:18 EST
From: Bakend aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re: check engine light

In a message dated 4/2/99 8:39:39 AM Mountain Standard Time,
boomer csonline.net writes:

> They checked the error codes, and replaced the throttle position
> indicator (a frequently observed code that requires extra testing to
verify)
> and a fuel relay (don't know which one). Haven't had the light again for
> 3,500 miles so far.
Just one question. Have you taken any extended higher speed trips in that
3500 miles? I have talked to two friends with the Aerostar (same engine and
drive train I think) that always get the engine light on trips when they are
"pushing" it a little. They have both owned the vehicles since new and say
that they haven't had any other problems with them.
Dennis Baken
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Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 06:33:12 -0500
From: Rick and Deborah Kelso
Subject: FTE Small - Re:Check engine light

A check engine light can be the result of several sensors that are the culprit. It....


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