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In this issue:

RE: FTE Small - Whine in 98 Explorer when braking
FTE Small - Reguarding hollowing out cats
FTE Small - re: Check engine light
Re: FTE Small - Whine in 98 Explorer when braking
FTE Small - Ranger recall info [was: RE: Whine in 98 Explorer whe
TSB's & FTE Small - Whine in 98 Explorer when braking
FTE Small - List of problems...
Re: FTE Small - Ranger recall info [was: RE: Whine in 98 Explorer whe
Re: FTE Small - Lift kit
Re: FTE Small - Lift kit
FTE Small - Re: upgrading your explorer
Re: FTE Small - List of problems...
FTE Small - Bigger Tires?
Re: FTE Small - Whine in 98 Explorer when braking

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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 07:18:43 -0700
From: Dave Armbruster
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Whine in 98 Explorer when braking

FWIW, I heard on the news this weekend something in passing about the cruise
control on newer Ford Trucks (I specifically remember '98, '99 Rangers, but
there were others). Most likely has nothing to do with this, since the
recall was regarding cruise controls causing uncontrolled acceleration, but
still it affects the thottle.

Sounds drivetrain related to me, maybe transmission, transfer case, etc.
How about front axle disconnect or hubs? Are you sure you didn't put on a
Vortech supercharger or something? ;-)

Dave
Denver, CO

> -----Original Message-----
>
> Hello All;
>
> This is my first post since joining the group, so please bear with me.
>
> My wife and I just returned from a trip from Michigan to Florida, on the
> way
> down while traveling at approx 70-75 MPH with cruise control on, I started
> to break for traffic ahead when we heard this high pitch whine coming from
> the front of the truck, it sounds some what like you placed the truck in
> neutral and applied the gas, but the tach indicated that the engine was
> slowing down. This occur for about a mile or so then went away, I got
> worried thought maybe the engine or trans was going out, Went to a Ford
> dealer in Dayton, OH and had them test drive it with me, The problem never
> occurred again till we were approaching Atlanta, same conditions same
> symptoms. Applying the gas seems to stop the problem, tried turning off
> the
> cruise control and turning Overdrive off, still can not pinpoint the
> fault,
> I think it is either the Overdrive or speed control. Has anyone had any
> problems like this?
>
> It is a 98 Explorer sport, 6 cyl, auto with 4W/D. It has happened a total
> of
> 5 times in 3000 miles, but when it happens it is real loud and very
> disheartening to here in a truck with 15000 miles on it.
>
> Hubert H. Martin
> hmartin earthlink.net
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 06:27:54 PST
From: "Bryan Snyder"
Subject: FTE Small - Reguarding hollowing out cats

Hey, I'm all for a clean environment, I recycle, I pick up other peoples
litter, and I keep my truck in a very good state of tune, so I believe I
contribute much less damage than the average Joe. Not to mention it is a
case of economics, cats are expensive, some people have to pass on'em to
save money and keep there ride from being laid up. I'll admit that that
was only partly my prob, I couldn't wait for the correct parts be
without a truck, so I did the next best thing.


Best reguards,

Bryan
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 08:02:45 -0700
From: "Jeffery G. Conrad"
Subject: FTE Small - re: Check engine light

Bakend aol.com wrote:
>
> We took our first road trip in the 95 Explorer this weekend. It
has the 4.0
> with automatic OD and 36K miles. We took off on a 450 mile trip
and at 200
> miles the "check engine" light came on and stayed. After another
100 miles it
> went off and stayed off the rest of the way to the Black Hills.
All was fine
> driving around in the Hills until we started back. Then at 100
miles the light
> came on and stayed until we stopped and shut it off. We spent the
night in
> Gillette Wyo and headed home the next day. Once again at about 100
miles out
> the light came on again. I drove the rest of the 300 miles home
with the light
> occasionally going off and then right back on. Any one with the
4.0 ever have
> similar experience with the check engine light? Any cures? Any
info is greatly
> appreciated because this is the first Ford that I have been able
to get my
> wife to buy and she is giving me that "I told you so" look. The
vehicle runs
> great and gets about 20 mpg. Really nice road vehicle!
> Thanks
> Dennis Baken


Dennis,
I have the same problem with my 95 Ranger XL (2wd 2.3L 5 speed with 33K
miles.) Runs great and gets the same mileage as ever (22 mpg city.) Last
November the Check Engine light came on and off in the same fashion as yours
until finally staying on. A quick glance through the owners manual
indicated that it there is possibly a problem with some of the emission
equipment. It did mention that it is NOT an engine threatening problem and
to take it into you're friendly Ford dealer at your earliest convenience. A
call to the local Ford dealer confirmed what I had read, and most
importantly, to not worry about damaging the engine. Since I don't need to
have it tested until September I haven't been in a rush to get it in for
service. I don't plan to let it go too long though - never know what other
things could be getting fouled up due to this!

To ease you wife's fears I've never had any problems with my truck and it
gets more than it's share of hard use (hauling, towing etc.)
Hope this helps!


Jeff Conrad
jconrad nxtrend.com
71 F100
95 Ranger XL
Fan of the 2-TIME WORLD CHAMPION!! Denver Broncos!!!
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 07:33:44 -0800
From: "Michael D. Sheridan"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Whine in 98 Explorer when braking

Dave Armbruster wrote:
>
> FWIW, I heard on the news this weekend something in passing about the cruise
> control on newer Ford Trucks (I specifically remember '98, '99 Rangers, but
> there were others). Most likely has nothing to do with this, since the
> recall was regarding cruise controls causing uncontrolled acceleration, but
> still it affects the thottle.
>
> Sounds drivetrain related to me, maybe transmission, transfer case, etc.
> How about front axle disconnect or hubs? Are you sure you didn't put on a
> Vortech supercharger or something? ;-)
>
> Dave
> Denver, CO
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > Hello All;
> >
> > This is my first post since joining the group, so please bear with me.
> >
> > My wife and I just returned from a trip from Michigan to Florida, on the
> > way
> > down while traveling at approx 70-75 MPH with cruise control on, I started
> > to break for traffic ahead when we heard this high pitch whine coming from
> > the front of the truck, it sounds some what like you placed the truck in
> > neutral and applied the gas, but the tach indicated that the engine was
> > slowing down. This occur for about a mile or so then went away, I got
> > worried thought maybe the engine or trans was going out, Went to a Ford
> > dealer in Dayton, OH and had them test drive it with me, The problem never
> > occurred again till we were approaching Atlanta, same conditions same
> > symptoms. Applying the gas seems to stop the problem, tried turning off
> > the
> > cruise control and turning Overdrive off, still can not pinpoint the
> > fault,
> > I think it is either the Overdrive or speed control. Has anyone had any
> > problems like this?
> >
> > It is a 98 Explorer sport, 6 cyl, auto with 4W/D. It has happened a total
> > of
> > 5 times in 3000 miles, but when it happens it is real loud and very
> > disheartening to here in a truck with 15000 miles on it.

Hi Dave and List Folks:

It's nice to see a post on this list now and then as the
other lists of the BIG trucks are more active.

I have a 1999 Mazda B2500 Reg Cab 4 cylinder 2.5L with a 5 speed and I
called Mazda and they told me that the recall more than likely DOES
include my truck! I will assume then that at least the 1999 Ranger
IS also in the recall. (Assume, remember)

In a few days, I was told, I will likely get a letter from Mazda (Ford)
to take my truck into the dealer and have all new cables (Where ever
THEY are) put on that have something to do with the cruise control.

It was explained to me by Mazda that Ford has bought their cables
from several companies and that they really don't have any suspect
problem from people on the road that the cruise control will cause
a problem but that they want to change them anyway to avoid future
complications as they had one case of failure in their testing. (THERE
words, remember)

As far as I am concerned I have had no indication that my cruise
control is faulty so I will batch up all my complaints and return
the truck to the dealer for work when it's handy to do so. Its always
seems that the dealers do more harm than good when they work on
these things as we all know. It sure would be fun to have a hidden
camera and record what they do to them BACK in the BACK ROOM!

If anyone has a Mazda or Ranger like mine I sure would like
to hear from you as I have the nasty little buzzing noise that
is driving me nuts when I first take off in low gear. Is it possible
that it is pinking?

Michael
1999 Mazda B2500
2.5L 4 Cylinder
5 Speed
Reg Cab
California
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 11:13:33 -0500 (EST)
From: fss altavista.net
Subject: FTE Small - Ranger recall info [was: RE: Whine in 98 Explorer whe

- -----Original Message-----
From:marble psnw.com
Sent:Wednesday, March 31, 1999 10:47 AM

>------------
>Hi Dave and List Folks:
>
>It's nice to see a post on this list now and then as
>the other lists of the BIG trucks are more active.
>
>I have a 1999 Mazda B2500 Reg Cab 4 cylinder 2.5L with
>a 5 speed and I called Mazda and they told me that the
>recall more than likely DOES include my truck! I will
>assume then that at least the 1999 Ranger IS also in
>the recall. (Assume, remember)
[snip]

For information on the recall, go to http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www2.ford.com/display.asp?story=434.

To see if your vehicle is included, go to http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.recall.ford.com. You'll need your VIN.

>If anyone has a Mazda or Ranger like mine I sure would
>like to hear from you as I have the nasty little
>buzzing noise that is driving me nuts when I first
>take off in low gear. Is it possible that it is
>pinking?

I have a 2.5L Ranger (basically same as your Mazda). I haven't heard the noise you describe, sorry.


+-----------------------------------------------+
Rick Sapir fss altavista.net
Raleigh, NC USA ricks99 netzero.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/4654
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 19:28:33 +0100
From: Nick G Moulsdale
Subject: TSB's & FTE Small - Whine in 98 Explorer when braking

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Hiya

1. TSB? I didn't know a short while ago!! TSB=Technical Service
Bulletin as put out by FORD!
2. Whine in 98 Explorer when braking

There is a major Ford recall for faults in the cruise control for
1998 Explorers (and something else I cannot remember what), it made
the ABC News on the net 'cos its nearly 1 million vehicles affected.
It may, or may not, be something to do with your problem. BUT I found
I could get a lot of other things thrown in when I took my Explorer
in for the Recall on the throttle cable, I got full tank gas, new
carpets, new brake shoes, complete valet, lift to and from work etc.
My Explorer here in UK is covered by a VERY strong Guarantee so it
goes back for anything. Tomoorow it goes for brake judder, throttle
sticking in UP position, strange vibration at 50 mph. All minor IF sorted!!

Good luck.

PS Tim Turner or Ding will have a real answer for you. They are some
of the brains round here.


Nick Moulsdale
Ivy Cottage,
Castley, Otley.
North Yorkshire. nick.moul zetnet.co.uk
LS21 2PY ENGLAND phone(44)1423-734470

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On Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 12:22:07 -0500
"Hubert H. Martin" Wrote:

Subject: FTE Small - Whine in 98 Explorer when braking

Hello All;

This is my first post since joining the group, so please bear with me.

My wife and I just returned from a trip from Michigan to Florida, on the way
down while traveling at approx 70-75 MPH with cruise control on, I started
to brake for traffic ahead when we heard this high pitch whine coming from
the front of the truck, it sounds some what like you placed the truck in
neutral and applied the gas, but the tach indicated that the engine was
slowing down. This occur for about a mile or so then went away, I got
worried thought maybe the engine or trans was going out, Went to a Ford
dealer in Dayton, OH and had them test drive it with me, The problem never
occurred again till we were approaching Atlanta, same conditions same
symptoms. Applying the gas seems to stop the problem, tried turning off the
cruise control and turning Overdrive off, still can not pinpoint the fault,
I think it is either the Overdrive or speed control. Has anyone had any
problems like this?

It is a 98 Explorer sport, 6 cyl, auto with 4W/D. It has happened a total of
5 times in 3000 miles, but when it happens it is really loud and its very
disheartening to hear in a truck with 15000 miles on it.

Hubert H. Martin
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 14:30:07 PST
From: "Michael Krause"
Subject: FTE Small - List of problems...

Hey gang, I've got a '91 Explorer XLT with about 137,000 miles on it and
problems keep coming up that I'm not too sure what they are. First, I
flushed my coolant system about 2 weeks ago and now the temp is at the
"L" of the Normal reading where it used to read at the "R". Could this
be a faulty thermostat or something greater. Also when I turn on my
A/C, there is no sound or temp that the compressor is on. How would I
go about testing that the compressor is bad. Second, when I'm on the
freeway going about 70 mph in O/D, the transmission keeps shifting back
and forth from 4th to 5th. Anyone want to take a crack at this one??
I'm seriously thinking about trading this one in, but I enjoy the
vehicle and working on it so if you can please help. Thanks so much.

Michael Krause
sharktooth_76 hotmail.com

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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:11:18 -0800
From: "Michael D. Sheridan"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ranger recall info [was: RE: Whine in 98 Explorer whe

fss altavista.net wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: marble psnw.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 10:47 AM
>
> >------------
> >Hi Dave and List Folks:
> >
> >It's nice to see a post on this list now and then as
> >the other lists of the BIG trucks are more active.
> >
> >I have a 1999 Mazda B2500 Reg Cab 4 cylinder 2.5L with
> >a 5 speed and I called Mazda and they told me that the
> >recall more than likely DOES include my truck! I will
> >assume then that at least the 1999 Ranger IS also in
> >the recall. (Assume, remember)
> [snip]
>
> For information on the recall, go to http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www2.ford.com/display.asp?story=434.
>
> To see if your vehicle is included, go to http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.recall.ford.com. You'll need your VIN.
>
> >If anyone has a Mazda or Ranger like mine I sure would
> >like to hear from you as I have the nasty little
> >buzzing noise that is driving me nuts when I first
> >take off in low gear. Is it possible that it is
> >pinking?
>
> I have a 2.5L Ranger (basically same as your Mazda). I haven't heard the noise you describe, sorry.

Hi Rick:

Thanks but that site will not work for Mazda. Why have they
done that I wonder as Ford makes them. Mazda has no site to
put in a VIN and get a response that I know of.

Michael
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 20:23:56 EST
From: Mtbikr17 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Lift kit

yea but it would look really cool though!!!
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 22:16:49 -0600
From: "Randy Collins"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Lift kit

my dealer in st. louis said it won't? but based on my experience with
various dealerships, who knows!

ran

> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:56:38 EST
> From: Johnchig aol.com
> Subject: Re: FTE Small - Lift kit
>
> Sad to say but yes it will void your warranty. Sorry
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 23:36:08 EST
From: Ding060297 aol.com
Subject: FTE Small - Re: upgrading your explorer

I'm doing a lil more work to my 96 explorer v8 awd...so far i've done away
with the stock air box and filter i've added k&n kept it open i've added a
hyperchip and dropped the thermostat to 160 to keep it from pinging to death a
lil low if you ask me but thats what it calls for i think i'll try a 180 just
to keep it a lil closer to temp..I now also have to run 92 octane ...I just
found a lil exhaust street shop that does anything you could possibly want,
and since i've been interested in a cat back system that borla has for a mere
$544 plus installation if you don't do it yourself these guys are doing a 3"
exhaust with a dynomas muffler and straight back in one pipe for less than
$265 installed, he guarantees a mean deep exhaust note and better performance
all around especially when towing my 3500lbs bass boat so i get it done within
the week i'll let you know how it turns out.........stay tuned..........the
shop is in jersey for those interested ...................ding
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 23:45:30 EST
From: Ding060297 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - List of problems...

To start with your list of problems sounds all pretty normal stuff...First
when you did your lil flush job did you change your thermostat....Did you put
the right mix of anti freeze and water .....Second your ac compressor when
idling turn on you ac buttom and see if you here the compressor click on it
will only click on at temps above 40 degrees outside if it does and only
cycles for a couple seconds or so then its low on freon if nothing happens
check the wiring going to the compressor itself and check the fuse .....Third
your tranny sounds totally normal especially for 137,000 miles my 92 and my
newer 96 do the same thing your best bet is to leave it out of o/d until you
hit a lil above 45 then turn on the od it keeps the tranny from searching for
gears and in my opinion puts less strain and wear on it......ding
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 23:53:45 -0500
From: J Cope
Subject: FTE Small - Bigger Tires?

Hi all. I've got a stock 88 BII, and I was told by someone at a tire
warehouse that I could fit 30x9.5's on the truck with no rubbing problems.
A friend of mine has them on his 88 Ranger, but he doesn't offroad at
all...
Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks!

JC

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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 23:52:40 EST
From: Ding060297 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Whine in 98 Explorer when braking

You got a tuff one there something i and most other would have to hear to
give you a better idea...Did it only happen while turning off the cruise....


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