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In this issue:

Re: FTE Small - Almost a stalling problem.
FTE Small - BII Trans Problems
FTE Small - '86 BII Tranny Failure
FTE Small - Trick air filter for sale!
Re: FTE Small - BII Trans Problems Ranger??
FTE Small - fuel pump or filter???
Re: FTE Small - '86 BII Tranny Failure
Re: FTE Small - '86 BII Tranny Failure
Re: FTE Small - BII Trans Problems
Re: FTE Small - Trick air filter for sale!
Re: FTE Small - BII Trans Problems
FTE Small - Hubs on a Bronco II
Re: FTE Small - Engine Cooling Fan replaced with Electric Fan

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 07:57:17 -0700
From: Dave Armbruster
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Almost a stalling problem.

What year and engine?

I have a '97 4.0L Ranger, which would sputter and run poorly. It got bad
enough that it wouldn't idle. Turned out the gasket between the fuel runner
and the intake was pinched when it was installed at the factory. I guess
after time the pinch turned into a tear, which allowed air to get past the
plenum, thottle body and MAS, etc. The computer couldn't control the air,
so the engine wold alternate between too lean and too rich, causing the
engine to run poorly. After getting warmed up, so that the idle was low, it
would die at stoplights and in traffic.

First time it happened I took it to a dealer, who told me what happened and
fixed it under warranty. But, it happened again not 6 months later. Took
it by a different dealer, who told me this time it was a bad #1 fuel
injector (trusting his computer). Of course, it wasn't under warranty any
more and it was $300 to fix it.

Thinking I could fix a stupid FI, I tore into it, found that the first
dealer didn't even install the fuel runner to intake manifold gasket. There
are two gaskets on my 4.0L, and it looks like that's the way all the 4.0Ls
are, although one of the gaskets changed in 1994 I think. Anyway, starting
at the top of the intake manifold, there is a greenish one-piece gasket that
is between it and the fuel rail. The fuel rail is an aluminum piece that
the top of the injectors are fitted into and the fuel pump supplies gas to,
which is then fed to the injectors and into the engine. It is easy to spot
without even taking the engine apart, it has a pressure relief valve, which
looks an awful lot like a Schrader valve, with a blue cap on it, pointed to
the passenger's side of the engine compartment. On top of the that is
another gasket, on older ones it is the same as the lower, a green single
piece gasket (which I mistakenly used on mine, but works). The one I was
supposed to use is a three-piece rubber gasket set, which when you look at
the botton of the air plenum (the big, black plastic thing that has 4.0L
molded in it) has grooves for the gaskets to fit.



> -----Original Message-----
>
> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 15:41:19 -0400
> From: Mark MacDonald
> Subject: Re: FTE Small - Almost a stalling problem.
>
> I had the same problem with my new 150. When its cold in the morning, it
> really runs bad. It stalls when its first started, and on the second
> start,
> its fine. When I go to pull away, it dies, backfires, etc etc etc. ... I
> took it to the dealer, and they couldnt find anything wrong. Just as I was
> going out the door, I talked to the salesman that sold me the truck, and
> he
> told me that I should try using regular gas instead of high test. Where I
> live is also fairly cold, so I tried regular, and threw some gas line
> antifreeze in it, and have not had a problem since.
>
> Dont know if this will help you any, but it did me!
>
> Cheers
>
>
> At 03:23 PM 3/23/99 , you wrote:
> >Hey all. I have somewhat of a problem. When I press on the gas pedal
> >in the morning the engine almost stalls. Could this be a fuel pump,
> >fuel filter or something else?? Any responses are appreciated. You can
> >e-mail me directly if you'd like. Thanks so much.
> >Mike Krause
> >sharktooth_76 hotmail.com
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 10:30:37 -0500
From: Mike Peacock
Subject: FTE Small - BII Trans Problems

HI again,
Two people responded to my last post about my transmission, I appreciate =
the input very much. However I would like to get a good bit more input =
so that I can make good decisions based on the overall consensus. Here =
is the problem again.

I have an '86 BII 4wd with a 5spd. Trans. The Trans is now making =
noises(loud) in 1,2,3,5. Forth gear runs smooth and quiet. Any =
suggestions, opinions, experiences, and suggested parts sources are =
welcome and appreciated. Several suggestions have been to change the =
bearings. One response was that it really is not that difficult to =
replace the bearings. One response said that these trannys counter shaft =
heats up(I suppose causing it to warp) and should be replaced during a =
rebuild. Please help with all of your experiences! Thanks again -- Mike

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 11:45:36 -0500
From: Dave Slotter
Subject: FTE Small - '86 BII Tranny Failure

My wife's 1986 Ford Bronco II decided to take a turn for the worse on
the PA Turnpike this weekend and I could use some help on diagnosing
the problem and deciding what route to take to solve it.

While I was downshifting from 5th to 4th gear, I felt a large pop
underneath the car and didn't know what happened. I found that 5th,
3rd, 2nd, 1st and reverse gears all had failed, but 4th still worked.
I managed to get us home with just 4th gear (fun when you have to
navigate in the city and make 90 degree turns in a vehicle which is
known for rolling easily). Basically the engine would just rev while
in those gears - no power was transferred. I did not accidentally put
us in 4WD - this was just a failure of the mechanism and not operator
error as far as I can tell.

A post-mortem revealed that the shifter cover on the tranny had
become loose, but tightening it didn't give me my gears back. There
was fluid in the transmission which I suspected otherwise 4th
wouldn't have brought us home either. The shifting rod has a ball at
the end which fits into a socket attached to a rod which moves back
and forth and rotates inside the top of the transmission. Moving this
socket by hand shows that I am doing what is necessary to engage the
gears, but they do not work.

Does anyone have an idea of what is happening? Would removing the
other (larger) cover off the top of the transmission reveal anything
I can fix myself?

Would it be simpler to swap out the tranny? It has 5 speeds
(overdrive) and is on a 4WD vehicle with a 2.9L V6 engine. I have an
eye for cost and wouldn't mind putting in a rebuilt or used tranny.
Where could I get one of these inexpensively and what should it cost
me?

Thank you for your help in advance.

- -Dave Slotter
- --

ICQ# 16458879 AOL/AIM ID: "Mac XR"
1986 Ford Bronco II Gray Manual 2.9 V6 123K Pittsburgh PA

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 09:40:42 -0800
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= E. Benguerel"
Subject: FTE Small - Trick air filter for sale!

Anyone interested?

I have a brand new S&B PowerStack Filter (just like the K&N unit) for
sale. The part number is R-35-0005 P/S. The end cap is blue. This unit
came with a kit I purchased from Kurtz Kustom Motors. Check it out at
. The price is $35. Let me know

Andre E. Benguerel

1995 Ford Ranger 4 X4 SC
4.0L V6, OD Auto, Xlt

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 12:55:02 -0800 (PST)
From: John C
Subject: Re: FTE Small - BII Trans Problems Ranger??

Now I have a 1988 Ranger p/u, and it makes simaler noises. I have been
told that is either/or these two things.
1. Throwout bearing. Sounds like a dry bearing that is spinning
freely.

2. Pressure plate springs are falling apart or not working properly.
Makes sort of metal to metal sound.

Is it at times hard to get in gear? If so, that supposedly is a slave
cylinder in the trans, which is about $100-160. This may be easily
remedied by having the trans prof. flushed and replaced with new atf.

I personally have not done anything with my trans yet but when I do, do
you want me to let you know how it went? Because, I will end up doing
this myself (money).

See ya

John
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 14:53:47 -0600
From: Matthew Banevich
Subject: FTE Small - fuel pump or filter???

I have just noticed that my fuel pump is making much more noise than
usual... I was wondering if it were the fuel filter, and if it looked
like a big black canister in the area under the drivers seat if it were
the fuel filter... it is an 89' Bronco II, 2.9L EFI.

thanks in advance for the help.
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:01:14 -0800 (PST)
From: John C
Subject: Re: FTE Small - '86 BII Tranny Failure

Good luck finding a used tranny. I hear that they are like gold. As
far as a new one is concerned, I undertand that they are about
$1400-$2000!! Quite an expense. You may have better luck in PA, I'm in
CA and they are hard to find. John Carter

- --- Dave Slotter wrote:
> My wife's 1986 Ford Bronco II decided to take a turn
> for the worse on
> the PA Turnpike this weekend and I could use some
> help on diagnosing
> the problem and deciding what route to take to solve
> it.
>
> While I was downshifting from 5th to 4th gear, I felt
> a large pop
> underneath the car and didn't know what happened. I
> found that 5th,
> 3rd, 2nd, 1st and reverse gears all had failed, but
> 4th still worked.
> I managed to get us home with just 4th gear (fun when
> you have to
> navigate in the city and make 90 degree turns in a
> vehicle which is
> known for rolling easily). Basically the engine would
> just rev while
> in those gears - no power was transferred. I did not
> accidentally put
> us in 4WD - this was just a failure of the mechanism
> and not operator
> error as far as I can tell.
>
> A post-mortem revealed that the shifter cover on the
> tranny had
> become loose, but tightening it didn't give me my
> gears back. There
> was fluid in the transmission which I suspected
> otherwise 4th
> wouldn't have brought us home either. The shifting
> rod has a ball at
> the end which fits into a socket attached to a rod
> which moves back
> and forth and rotates inside the top of the
> transmission. Moving this
> socket by hand shows that I am doing what is
> necessary to engage the
> gears, but they do not work.
>
> Does anyone have an idea of what is happening? Would
> removing the
> other (larger) cover off the top of the transmission
> reveal anything
> I can fix myself?
>
> Would it be simpler to swap out the tranny? It has 5
> speeds
> (overdrive) and is on a 4WD vehicle with a 2.9L V6
> engine. I have an
> eye for cost and wouldn't mind putting in a rebuilt
> or used tranny.
> Where could I get one of these inexpensively and what
> should it cost
> me?
>
> Thank you for your help in advance.
>
> -Dave Slotter
> --
>
>
> ICQ# 16458879
> AOL/AIM ID: "Mac XR"
> 1986 Ford Bronco II Gray Manual 2.9 V6
> 123K Pittsburgh PA
>
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:23:06 -0500
From: Dave Slotter
Subject: Re: FTE Small - '86 BII Tranny Failure

> Good luck finding a used tranny. I hear that they are like gold. As
> far as a new one is concerned, I undertand that they are about
> $1400-$2000!! Quite an expense. You may have better luck in PA, I'm in
> CA and they are hard to find. John Carter

I certainly hope so! Thanks for your response.

- -Dave
- --

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1986 Ford Bronco II Gray Manual 2.9 V6 123K Pittsburgh PA

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:38:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Jason Buchanan
Subject: Re: FTE Small - BII Trans Problems

- --- Mike Peacock wrote:
> HI again,
> Two people responded to my last post about my
> transmission, I appreciate the input very much.
> However I would like to get a good bit more input so
> that I can make good decisions based on the overall
> consensus. Here is the problem again.
>
> I have an '86 BII 4wd with a 5spd. Trans. The Trans
> is now making noises(loud) in 1,2,3,5. Forth gear
> runs smooth and quiet. Any suggestions, opinions,
> experiences, and suggested parts sources are welcome
> and appreciated. Several suggestions have been to
> change the bearings. One response was that it really
> is not that difficult to replace the bearings. One
> response said that these trannys counter shaft heats
> up(I suppose causing it to warp) and should be
> replaced during a rebuild. Please help with all of
> your experiences! Thanks again -- Mike
>
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I have an 88 BII. I had the same problem with my x-mission. What
happened was that the bearings went out on the counter shaft. My
x-mission had a loud wine to it. Then one day the shaft broke while I
was on the interstate and I had to drive home in fourth gear. So, to me,
it sounds like you have the same problem. I would either have it checked
out, or I would check it out myself.
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 18:29:15 -0500
From: "Eric Davis"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Trick air filter for sale!

For what engine and what year?


Eric Davis
98 4x4 Ranger,
Edlebrock muffler, K&N.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Andr E. Benguerel
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 12:37 PM
Subject: FTE Small - Trick air filter for sale!


>Anyone interested?
>
>I have a brand new S&B PowerStack Filter (just like the K&N unit) for
>sale. The part number is R-35-0005 P/S. The end cap is blue. This unit
>came with a kit I purchased from Kurtz Kustom Motors. Check it out at
>. The price is $35. Let me know
>
>Andre E. Benguerel
>
>1995 Ford Ranger 4 X4 SC
>4.0L V6, OD Auto, Xlt
>
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 19:18:15 EST
From: Bakend aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - BII Trans Problems

In a message dated 3/24/99 8:49:09 AM Mountain Standard Time, mike edi1.com
writes:

> have an '86 BII 4wd with a 5spd. Trans. The Trans is now making =
> noises(loud) in 1,2,3,5. Forth gear runs smooth and quiet. Any =
> suggestions, opinions, experiences, and suggested parts sources are =
> welcome and appreciated.
I replaced the bearings in mine only to have the teeth on the counter shaft
fail in 1500 miles. The shaft dooes not warp but crystalizes and then breaks.
Rebuilt tranny ready to install cost me $800. Bearings for entire rebuild was
$350 and I ended up throwing them away!
D Baken
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 20:32:55 -0600
From: "Bradley A. Trefz"
Subject: FTE Small - Hubs on a Bronco II

I recently had 30" tires installed on my 1987 Bronco II XLT 4x4. Over the
last couple of weeks I've noticed an occaisional squelling coming from the
wheels. At first I just thought it was the brakes as I mainly heard it at
stops and starts...but now its becomemore constant and I suspect it may be
coming from the hubs. Is this the most probable source and whats it take to
get them pulled and repacked/lubed. I've been quoted at over 150 dollars
which seems a little steep....any comments ideas?

By the way, I've got a page of links up and running on my website that has
lots of links to Bronco II, Ranger related sites and products (including
www.ford-trucks.com) Check it out at my personal homepages -
www.concentric.net/~Trats/Bronco.shtml


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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 23:25:28 EST
From: Ding060297 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Engine Cooling Fan replaced with Electric Fan

Ken:: I had a truck once that i tried this lil swap on (chev s10 we won't go
there though) but i took out the factory fan and put in a electric fan and it....


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