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In this issue:

Re: FTE Small - check gauge light
Re: FTE Small - 86 bronco II
FTE Small - Almost a stalling problem.
Re: FTE Small - Almost a stalling problem.
FTE Small - Transmission Problems
FTE Small - 2.8 L engine help...
Re: FTE Small - Transmission Problems
FTE Small - re:86 Bronco II
FTE Small - High Octane/Nock Sensor
RE: FTE Small - re:86 Bronco II
FTE Small - Tranny Swap
FTE Small - Trans and Transfercase
FTE Small - ADMIN: Spamming the lists
FTE Small - Engine Cooling Fan replaced with Electric Fan
Re: FTE Small - Transmission Problems
FTE Small - ADMIN: Updated charter and FAQ

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 12:17:58 -0500
From: Dave Slotter
Subject: Re: FTE Small - check gauge light

> Hello,
> I am new to the list and have been enjoying the the discussions.
> I have a '98 Ranger XLT ext. cab, 4wd, 4.0L with about 1700 mi on it and
> am enjoying it immensely, but I recently noticed when going to pass
> someone on an uphill grade my
> "check gauge" light comes on briefly. This only happens when going
> uphill. I've checked my fluid levels and they seem fine. The dealer
> says it could be a sensor and wait awhile and see if it continues.
> Anybody else have this happen or have any insight into it.
>
> Thanks,
> Greg Achord

Greg,

Run a computer diagnostic - see the list archives for my post on how
to do this. It is very easy for a DIY-er. What you should be looking
for is any stored engine codes in the KOEO test.

Good luck!

- -Dave
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ICQ# 16458879 AOL/AIM ID: "Mac XR"
1986 Ford Bronco II Gray Manual 2.9 V6 122K Pittsburgh PA

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 12:26:00 -0500
From: Dave Slotter
Subject: Re: FTE Small - 86 bronco II

> i just bought an 86 bronco II with 250 000 km on it, and had the body redone
> (new paint and rust fixed) but the engine has a tendency to act up. it
> starts no problem, runs smoothly enough, but after a few minutes of idling
> (without having gone anywhere yet) it sometimes wants to start stalling and
> the rpms drop really low (no tachometer yet so i can't say how low) and then
> it recovers or stalls. the problem sometimes occurs while i am driving too,
> but not after any specific time period or such. my friend/mechanic thought
> it might be a "MAP sensor"? not sure on the spelling of that, or what it
> even is! for any help that it might be, its an 86 with the 2.9 litre EFI
> engine with a complete rebuild 60 000 kms ago, and most, if not all, of the
> drivetrain and other wear and tear points have been very well maintained. if
> you could possibly help, i would be much appreciative, even suggestions
> would help me and my friend to narrow down the problem.
>
> thanks in advance,
> robb, '86 Bronco II 253000 kms long and still running strong!

Robb,

The MAP Sensor is the Manifold Air Pressure sensor. It tells the
computer how dense the air is that is going into the engine. This
sensor on my '86 BII is located on the passenger side of the vehicle
and is one of the sensors located behind the battery and starter
solenoid.

Your vehicle looks like another candidate for running a computer
diagnostic. See my post in the archives.

If my memory serves correct, the '85 BII was the last vehicle with a
carbureted engine, and from '86 through the end of production, the
BII used EFI and a computer. The computer knows way more about the
"real-time" operation of the engine than anyone else - including a
mechanic, and it's safe to use its codes as a starting point.
However, the knowledge and experience of a mechanic (shadetree or
otherwise) is essential to using these codes to provide the proper
maintenance.

It is important to remember that the computer doesn't know
everything. You could have problems that the computer can't sense
directly and replacing sensors won't alleviate the problem (and will
lighten your wallet unnecessarily).

Good luck!

- -Dave Slotter
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ICQ# 16458879 AOL/AIM ID: "Mac XR"
1986 Ford Bronco II Gray Manual 2.9 V6 122K Pittsburgh PA

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:23:06 PST
From: "Michael Krause"
Subject: FTE Small - Almost a stalling problem.

Hey all. I have somewhat of a problem. When I press on the gas pedal
in the morning the engine almost stalls. Could this be a fuel pump,
fuel filter or something else?? Any responses are appreciated. You can
e-mail me directly if you'd like. Thanks so much.
Mike Krause
sharktooth_76 hotmail.com
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 15:41:19 -0400
From: Mark MacDonald
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Almost a stalling problem.

I had the same problem with my new 150. When its cold in the morning, it
really runs bad. It stalls when its first started, and on the second start,
its fine. When I go to pull away, it dies, backfires, etc etc etc. ... I
took it to the dealer, and they couldnt find anything wrong. Just as I was
going out the door, I talked to the salesman that sold me the truck, and he
told me that I should try using regular gas instead of high test. Where I
live is also fairly cold, so I tried regular, and threw some gas line
antifreeze in it, and have not had a problem since.

Dont know if this will help you any, but it did me!

Cheers


At 03:23 PM 3/23/99 , you wrote:
>Hey all. I have somewhat of a problem. When I press on the gas pedal
>in the morning the engine almost stalls. Could this be a fuel pump,
>fuel filter or something else?? Any responses are appreciated. You can
>e-mail me directly if you'd like. Thanks so much.
>Mike Krause
>sharktooth_76 hotmail.com
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 14:58:24 -0500
From: Mike Peacock
Subject: FTE Small - Transmission Problems

I have an '86 BII 5spd(the Mits type). Last weekend the transmission =
started making loud noises in 1,2,3,5 gears. 4th runs very quiet and =
smooth. I hope it is only the bearings, but does anyone know anything =
about these trans. What else it might be, what the cost might be to =
have it rebuilt, how difficult it is to put bearings and possibly =
synchronizers through the trans? I eventually want to put a 302 and a =
t-18 or nv2500 in the truck so I'm not wanting to spend the $1700 that =
the trans shop wants to rebuild it. I can get bearings for about $30 =
each, not sure about the synchronizers. Any and all replies are greatly =
appreciated. -- Mike=20

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:49:14 -0500
From: "Thomas E. Francis"
Subject: FTE Small - 2.8 L engine help...

My son purchased a '85 Bronci II with the 2.8 L V6.
The vehicle had a severe electrical short which we
fixed and are doing some body work.

The engine is a little tired, as in low oil pressure,
low compression on a couple of cylinders and needs
a carb rebuild. As long as the fenders are off, we
figured we could do the rebuild.

I figured as long as we were at this point, we might
as well "hot rod" the engine a little.

Are there performance parts available for this engine
and where might I find them?

Thanks in advance.

Tom Francis (mailto:tomf neca.com)
S. Woodstock, CT


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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 18:49:09 EST
From: Bakend aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Transmission Problems

In a message dated 3/23/99 1:04:55 PM Mountain Standard Time, mike edi1.com
writes:

> I have an '86 BII 5spd(the Mits type). Last weekend the transmission =
> started making loud noises in 1,2,3,5 gears. 4th runs very quiet and =
> smooth. I hope it is only the bearings
My 87 did the same thing and I replaced the bearings. The input shaft berarinf
was real bak and I thought I had really saved some money. However about 1500
miles later the thing failed completely! The fellow that sold me a rebuilt
($800) said that the counter shaft gets hot on those trannys and needs to be
replaced at the time of rebuild. He was a B-2 fanatic and a tranny rebuild
professional so I trust his advice.
D Baken
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 17:04:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill Ciocco
Subject: FTE Small - re:86 Bronco II

.. but the engine has a tendency to act up. it starts no problem, runs
..smoothly enough, but after a few minutes of idling (without having
..gone anywhere yet) it sometimes wants to start stalling and the rpms
..drop really low (no tachometer yet so i can't say how low) and then
it ..recovers or stalls. the problem sometimes occurs while i am driving
..too, but not after any specific time period or such.

Check the EGR Valve. While it is running, wait for it to act up,
remove and plug the vacuum hose frome the EGR valve and tap the valve
with a small hammer at the base where the valve seats. If it
straightens out, you know that you need to replace it. It is the most
common driveability problem with the BII's.
I think that the most common unnoticed problem is the thermostat, you
might do a coolant flush and change it just to be sure. Some people
might think it is a waste of money, and they might be right. But it is
not alot of money and at least you know it is done.

I have an '87 2WD w/ 230,000 on it. It still runs strong with no
smoke, but it is on its third A4LD auto trans. I Change the oil every
3k and keep an eye on the gages and keep on the lookout for any
puddles. I get a wet oil pan by oil change time, but not enough to
spot the driveway yet. But it's only a matter of time now.

Enjoy your new ride. I hope this helps
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:15:23 -0500
From: J Cope
Subject: FTE Small - High Octane/Nock Sensor

I drive an 88 BII, and correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure it's got
a nock sensor. Now, correct me again, but wouldn't the presence of a nock
sensor let me get better performance out of higer octane gas? I run 89
now, and it's fine, but I'd pay the little extra for a boost in
performance...
Thanks!

JC

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:21:11 -0500
From: J Cope
Subject: RE: FTE Small - re:86 Bronco II

[] ... Check the EGR Valve. While it is running, wait for it to act up,

[]
What and where is the EGR valve, and what does it do?

JC

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 11:14:52 +0900
From: douglas forster
Subject: FTE Small - Tranny Swap

I have an '86 Bronco II XLT, 2.9 liter V6 with a 5-speed manual
transmission. The engine has been completely rebuilt and I would like
to swap the tranny for an automatic. Has anyone ever done this? Is it
possible? Any information would be greatly appreciated.

D. Forster

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 18:29:08 PST
From: "kimm miller II"
Subject: FTE Small - Trans and Transfercase

Greetings to one and all.
I am installing a 3-speed manual trans w/Dana 20 transfer from
a '75 Bronco into my '88 BII. I haven't messed with a manual trans
in so long(except the original from the BII) I'm not sure what oil to
put in the transfer case. Ok, probably sounds like one of those type
of questions, but I've had a parts store tell me SAE 50 above 10
degrees, SAE 30 below. The Ford dealer said straight 80 or 90
would be alright, the lighter the better for that year. Any input will
help out great!
Oh, by the way Tim, it was a connector under the battery on that
Taruas that I wrote to you about in December.

Remember, "To break something built like a rock, you need
something built FORD TOUGH!!"

Kimm & "Nuttin' Much"
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 00:04:49 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Small - ADMIN: Spamming the lists

Just wanted everyone to know that before they buy anything
from Superior Carburators that this company thinks its ok
to spam our mailing lists. As usual, our list filters
caught the spam. I've cc'd the spammer if anyone else
wants to discuss this with the spammer.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 22:19:05 -0700
From: "Ken St.John"
Subject: FTE Small - Engine Cooling Fan replaced with Electric Fan

I'd like to remove my factory engine cooling fan and replace it with an
electric one. Any suggestions on this?
The original fan is 17" but I've only been able to find a 16" Electric (with
thermostat control) in the J.C. Whitney catalog. Also, the electric fan
option is available as either a "pusher" or "puller". I know the difference
but what would be the benefits (besides the amperage drain on the battery --
they are different for each)?
Thanks in advance

Ken
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 00:29:12 EST
From: Rngr86STX aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Transmission Problems

I have the same trans in my 86 Ranger stx and I had the same problems with it.
Its really a breeze to tear apart. I was a little nervous about it at first
till I found out the cost of a new one or rebuilt. just punch out any roll
pins you see that would keep the tail housing from coming off once you unbolt
it- maneuver the forks around till you get it off and three of the bearings
are right there. Luckily I caught it in time and only needed the lower carrier
shaft bearing (probably the same one you need sounds like.)Only
13.50--not1,350 Good luck
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 00:51:15 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Small - ADMIN: Updated charter and FAQ

Hi gang,

The FAQ and charter have been updated to duplicate information
found elsewhere on the site (i.e., the link at the bottom of
the charter). This update was done in order to clarify the
position of Ford Truck Enthusiasts concerning non-Ford power
plants in Ford trucks.

During the Summer/Fall of 1998, several people on the "core"
list made a decision concerning a club charter which would
exclude Ford family trucks which were powered by non-Ford
family engines (engines not made by Ford but installed by
Ford are acceptable, see the charter for details). Ford Truck
Enthusiasts, although a separate entity from the club (yet
to be incorporated as a non-profit), keeps itself "in sync"
with this tenant of the club.

For those that don't know, the core list is a group of
volunteers who act as advisors to myself/FTE and it also
facilitates communication for the formation of a national Ford
truck club. The core is open to anyone willing to volunteer
their time to discuss the direction of FTE - its not there
to air your dirty laundry but complaints are acceptable.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

PS- Give a round of applause to Keith Srb (herbie ....


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