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In this issue:

FTE Small - Temperature Gague
FTE Small - '93 Explorer Transmission Problems
FTE Small - Fuel Pump problem on an '86 Ford Ranger
FTE Small - Door seal, tailgate
Re: FTE Small - '93 Explorer Transmission Problems
Re: FTE Small - '93 Explorer Transmission Problems
RE: FTE Small - Temperature Gauge
FTE Small - Receiver based spare tire carrier
Re: FTE Small - Water in glove box
Re: FTE Small - '93 Explorer Transmission Problems

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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 00:20:58 -0600
From: Matthew Banevich
Subject: FTE Small - Temperature Gague

When I bought my 89' Bronco II, the temperature gague in the dash
cluster doesn't work at all.

What could be the problem?
Could this effect my computer ?
Might I be getting bad gas mileage because of this ?

I thank anyone in advance for the help !

Matt Banevich

89' Bronco II XLS

86' Bronco XLT
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 08:58:42 -0600
From: Greg Knauff
Subject: FTE Small - '93 Explorer Transmission Problems

I have a '93 Explorer with an A4LD Transmission (I think). My problem
is it shifts back and forth between drive and overdrive frequently while
driving in town and on the highway. I have remedied this by just
putting it in drive, but would like to take care of the problem. I have
had it checked out by two different transmission shops and they couldn't
find anything wrong. They found no metal shavings at all in the pan. I
know it is normal for a certain amount of shifting to occur on inclines
or while towing, but this occurs driving on a flat piece of road. The
Ford dealership said that there is something on the outside of the
transmission that could be going bad that is causing my problem. Does
anyone have any ideas? I'm starting to believe that I am going crazy!

Thanks,
Greg

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 08:36:54 -0700
From: "David Herron"
Subject: FTE Small - Fuel Pump problem on an '86 Ford Ranger

Tim Turner wrote....

>Any luck yet? I've run out of time tonight, but I'll jump into it with
>both fingers tomorrow. :-)


I still haven't figured it out. I was looking for the POWER relay that
Willliam A. Hopkins wrote about in his previous message, but have been
unable to locate it:


Willliam A. Hopkins wrote....

>You're nearly there. The fuel pump relay is controlled by a lead from the
EEC-4, which >also has a similiar looking, but not interchangable, POWER
relay.
>When my '86 bit the dust with a no start, it was that relay. The spark
runs because the TFI >module will output pulses when the distributor is
turning but
>the EEC isn't providing SPOUT, so mine even tried when I sprayed carb.
cleaner past the >throttle bore. So try it out. I don't know where on the
Ranger it's
>located, but on my '86 E150, it was between the passenger kick panel and
outside right >fender, and had gotten severely corroded there. I re-located
mine
>right next to the fuel pump relay upon replacement.

Anybody sure if this is the case in a Ranger? I couldn't find it anywhere,
aulthough the passenger side is VERY busy w/ electrical components....
unfortunately, looks like some patchwork has been done there in the past.
All the patched connections appear to be good though.... Anyone have any
other suggestions or comments???? I'm planning on working on this more
tomorrow. For those of you who hadn't caught my initial post, i'll drop it
here, too....

David Herron wrote...
>Hi --
>
> I just bought my first ford pickup ('86 Ford Ranger 2.3L 4cyl FI 2wd)
>and
>brought it home.... It had sat around for awhile, and needed cleaning up.
>I washed the engine out w/ a pressure washer, and got it cleaned to a
>'servicable' condition. After a couple of hours w/ the hood up, I started
>it up. Piece of cake. It started without a hitch. I then brought it into
>the garage to take a look. An hour later, I started it again to move it to
>the driveway for more light. An hour later, I was going to move it back to
>the garage, and it wouldn't start. After fiddling with it for a bit, I
>found that the fuel pump wasn't running. If I sprayed gasoline down it's
>throat, It started fine, but as soon as i stopped, it was gone. So, with
>the washing and everything, we thought it was probably electrical.
> We jumped (not literally :-) ) under the chassis and found two fuel
>pumps (which after purchasing a chilton's book, we found to be a high and
>low pressure pump). We couldn't get to the power connection on the low
>pressure pump without dropping the tank, so we checked the power connection
>on the high pressure pump. It appeared to have no power even when the key
>was on. Contacting our local AutoZone, we got a relay that they said was
>probably our problem. It was located in the engine compartment, passenger
>side, on the fender wall. We changed it out. No dice. We also checked
the
>inertia switch in the vehicle, but (of course) it wasn't tripped.
> Also, during fiddling w/ the high pressure pump, the low pressure pump
>came on for just a minute. It then stopped, and hasn't been heard from
>since. :-)
>
> I have many questions:
>
> Are the pumps regulated by some other device (ie. a regulator that
>turns on the low pressure pump until a certain PSI is reached, then
>activates the High Pressure pump)? Or does each pump run independently?
Do
>they run simultaneously? Should there always be power to both? Is there a
>fuse or fusable link in that connection, or only that relay? Do you have
>any clue where else I may look? We are at our wits end trying to figure
out
>what the problem could be, and we're almost to the point of rewiring the
>pumps. I would appreciate any response or help you may give.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --Dave

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Director of Information Systems
Colorado Plains Medical Center
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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 08:53:04 -0800
From: "Tim J. Clevenger"
Subject: FTE Small - Door seal, tailgate

Hi all.

Anybody recommend a good place in the San Francisco Bay Area to get my =
door seals replaced? The rubber and plastic have split and separated, =
letting water into the cab and making the windows nearly impossible to =
roll up. Also, the windows have a lot of play and rattle in the door =
when open. Is this a simple job?

Also, my JC Whitney catalog claims to have a new tailgate for my truck =
for $89. My existing tailgate was extremely overloaded by the previous =
owner, and now bows rather badly. Has anybody used these JCW =
replacement parts? Are they worth it?

The vehicle in question: '86 Ranger 2WD regular cab.


Regards,

Tim Clevenger

'86 Ranger 2WD 2.3/5 spd, 182k (daily driver)
'83 Ranger 2WD 2.3/4 spd, 166k (project truck)

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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 19:32:57 -0500
From: pms2
Subject: Re: FTE Small - '93 Explorer Transmission Problems

Greg,

If you are in the 40 mph range, you will feel a shift (lockup??) of some
sort. So if you're fluctuating above and below this speed, it WILL
drive you nuts. Taking it out of overdrive whilst in town is the
ticket.

Phil

Greg Knauff wrote:
>
> I have a '93 Explorer with an A4LD Transmission (I think). My problem
> is it shifts back and forth between drive and overdrive frequently while
> driving in town and on the highway. I have remedied this by just
> putting it in drive, but would like to take care of the problem. I have
> had it checked out by two different transmission shops and they couldn't
> find anything wrong. They found no metal shavings at all in the pan. I
> know it is normal for a certain amount of shifting to occur on inclines
> or while towing, but this occurs driving on a flat piece of road. The
> Ford dealership said that there is something on the outside of the
> transmission that could be going bad that is causing my problem. Does
> anyone have any ideas? I'm starting to believe that I am going crazy!
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
>
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Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 07:19:19 GMT
From: alannorthstar mindspring.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - '93 Explorer Transmission Problems

On Fri, 05 Mar 1999 08:58:42 -0600, you wrote:

:I have a '93 Explorer with an A4LD Transmission (I think). My problem
:is it shifts back and forth between drive and overdrive frequently while
:driving in town and on the highway. I have remedied this by just
:putting it in drive, but would like to take care of the problem. I have
:had it checked out by two different transmission shops and they couldn't
:find anything wrong. They found no metal shavings at all in the pan. I
:know it is normal for a certain amount of shifting to occur on inclines
:or while towing, but this occurs driving on a flat piece of road. The
:Ford dealership said that there is something on the outside of the
:transmission that could be going bad that is causing my problem. Does
:anyone have any ideas? I'm starting to believe that I am going crazy!
:
:Thanks,
:Greg
:
I don't know if this is the "problem" or not, but it is generally
recommended that you don't have it in overdrive when driving
around town.

The reason, I think, is that many engines with overdrive
transmissions can't maintain clean enough running when they are
lugging (trying to make power at low rpms) and the emissions
control software will mandate downshifting from the overdrive
gear every time you touch the accelerator a bit when the engine
is running at those low rpms -- which it is around down in
overdrive. Generally, the solution is to not put it in overdrive
until you hit the highway.

My 98 Ranger is new enough that I usually leave it in Overdrive
around town, and it doesn't shift too much. (It also locks up
its torque converter when it gets up to around 40mph and it
senses that I've settled into a steady speed). However, an older
engine may not be putting out as much power as when it was new,
so the software may be asking it to downshift more often than the
"like new" system might indicate.

Later,
Alan
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Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 11:53:53 -0500
From: Burnett
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Temperature Gauge

Matthew Banevich wrote:
> When I bought my 89' Bronco II, the temperature gague in the dash
> cluster doesn't work at all.
>
> What could be the problem?

The problem could be one of 3 things - the temperature sensor is defective,
the temperature gauge is defective, or there is a problem in the wire
between the two.

The sensor is located on the thermostat housing. There are two sensors on
the housing, a small one on the top to the right that sends temp info to
the computer, and a larger one on the back left side that sends the info to
the gauge. Pull the connector to the larger sensor off and ground it. This
should cause the gauge to swing full "Hot" (with the key on.) If it does,
the gauge and wiring are OK. Replace the sensor.

If this doesn't work, you'll have to check the continuity of the wire to
the back of the gauge. If the wire is OK, you need a new gauge.

Hope this helps!!

Burnett 89 BII


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Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 21:37:55 -0500
From: "Mike McNany"
Subject: FTE Small - Receiver based spare tire carrier

I just did a search and found this receiver drawbar based external spare
tire carrier for those who have over, over sized tires at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.truckworldonline.com/truckworldcom/mir-kyn/index.html
500# tongue/5k capacity on the hitch for towing, $195 (a bit steep), RRS
model has a ball platform, RRD model has an open receiver tube for your
other accessories like bike mount , hitch haul, ect. Never know what you can
find until you look!
Later, Mike the exLT

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Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 22:49:15 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Water in glove box

J Cope wrote:
>
> Sometimes, and only sometimes, after it rains I get water in the glove box
> of my 88 BII. Any suggestions as to where it's comming from or how to stop
> it?
> Thanks!

I'd suggest the windshield sealing, after lots of off roading it may not
be perfect anymore. Rule out the other suggestions first though!

TT
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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 22:59:06 EST
From: Ding060297 AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - '93 Explorer Transmission Problems

Greg......From my experience its normal i had a 92 and it did the same dam
thing the only time it didn't do it is when i had a few people in my truck or
when towing my boat and you know what my newer 96 with the v8 5.0 does the
same dam thing and now that i think of it they both have the same tow package
so maybe it has to do with that i don't know but since the new one has a
5-speed automatic it has the electronic od with the button so i just keep o/d
off and it seems to work well....Other than that do all the searching you want....


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