small-list-digest Wednesday, February 24 1999 Volume 03 : Number 050



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In this issue:

RE: FTE Small - best sounding muffler
FTE Small - Good Things About Aerostars
RE: FTE Small - Good Things About Aerostars
Re: FTE Small - Transmission oil recommendations
Re: FTE Small - In which I Praise my Aerostar
FTE Small - ranger tonneau covers
Re: FTE Small - Hey Ken, stereo list maybe
Re: FTE Small - Good Things About Aerostars
Re: FTE Small - Hey Ken, stereo list maybe
Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging

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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:49:34 -0700
From: Dave Armbruster
Subject: RE: FTE Small - best sounding muffler

I put a Borla cat-back on my Ranger 4.0L. It's not too loud at lower RPMs,
but above 3000 it gets fairly loud, enough to drown out the radio on the
highway with the windows closed. The muffler itself is pretty small, and
the whole system is stainless steel. The muffler is a single pipe that
bends through the baffle, if you look straight on you can't see out, but if
you turn the muffler a little to one direction, you can see out the outlet
side. The baffle is packed with stainless steel wool. It's hard to say if
I have more power or not, I put a K&N at the same time and I feel like it
has more thottle response, but my mileage didn't change for better or worse
and it's not exactly pulling 12s at the track. I do like the tailpipe, it
exits at the same spot as the original, but is finned to cool the tip, which
is supposed to help efficiency (and reduces the chance of burning your leg
on it) and looks kinda neat IMHO.

Dave
Denver, CO


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> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:11:26 -0500
> From: Robert Jenkins
> Subject: FTE Small - best sounding muffler
>
> I'm tired of hearing from my friends (one with a 5.0 jeep with headers and
>
> one with a big block suburban)that my '94 explorer v6 sounds like "a
> soccer
> moms car". I've done some mods but have to slow down on the spending and
> would like to change only the muffler. Any suggestions on which muffler
> will simply bolt in and squeak out some performance, but most importantly
> improve the sound of my Ford would greatly be appreciated.
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:56:45 -0600
From: Wayne Haley
Subject: FTE Small - Good Things About Aerostars

Richard, I gave some consideration to your desperate attempt to find some
good things about the Aerostar and came up with the following:

1) Better aerodynamics than a Mack truck
2) More cargo space than a Porsche 911, Lamborghini Diablo, and Ferrari 550
Marenello combined
3) Faster 0-60 time than a Yugo
4) Easier to park than a Suburban
5) Low incidence of theft
6) uhhh,

Oh yeah, here is another good thing - probably most of them are paid for by
now! Hope this helps ease your pain!
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:25:40 -0600
From: "Anthony Rio"
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Good Things About Aerostars

6) Blends in with rush hour "soccer-mom" suburban traffic.
7) You can live in it if you ever lose your job.
8) When you die, they can bury you in it.
9) You can take the back seat out and use it for extra seating at the
Thanksgiving table for up to three adults.
10) It's not a Chevy.



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> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 8:57 AM
> To: 'small-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: FTE Small - Good Things About Aerostars
>
>
> Richard, I gave some consideration to your desperate attempt to find some
> good things about the Aerostar and came up with the following:
>
> 1) Better aerodynamics than a Mack truck
> 2) More cargo space than a Porsche 911, Lamborghini Diablo, and
> Ferrari 550
> Marenello combined
> 3) Faster 0-60 time than a Yugo
> 4) Easier to park than a Suburban
> 5) Low incidence of theft
> 6) uhhh,
>
> Oh yeah, here is another good thing - probably most of them are
> paid for by
> now! Hope this helps ease your pain!
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:41:23 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Transmission oil recommendations

rgstein pacbell.net wrote:
>
> The time has come to replace all the fluid in my A4LD transmission; '92
> Aerostar variety. I'm wondering what to use for the fill. Here are the
> choices I'm looking at:
>
> 1. A good grade of the regular Mercon stuff.

If you can find it..

> 2. Mercon V (is it backward compatible?).

Yes. Hence the answer to 1)

> 3. Mobil 1 ATF.
>

Good choice; but you may hear stories either way. Your call.

> What do you say?
>

I'd get a manual tranny. ;-) Seriously though.. I'd go by reverse
order; synthetic preferred and down from there.

TT
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:47:57 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - In which I Praise my Aerostar

rgstein pacbell.net wrote:
>

> >
> Tim -------------------------------------------------------------------
> No there are some good things about them and even some relatively
> trouble-free ones on the road.
> Me --------------------------------------------------------------------
> What? Tell me. I'm desperate!

Umm.. the tire size is common so it's not an expensive tire? They sold
so many that Junk-yard parts are readily available? Amazingly enough I
do work on some that are relatively trouble-free (so far!). I guess
they were all made of components manufactured on a Wed.!

TT
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:52:27 -0600
From: "Randy Collins"
Subject: FTE Small - ranger tonneau covers

i'm looking to buy a cover for the bed of my 98 ranger. not sure if i want
a soft or hard cover. any recommendations/experiences? appreciate the
feedback.

ran
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:35:48 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Hey Ken, stereo list maybe

rgstein pacbell.net wrote:
>
> Tim Turner wrote --------------------------------------------------
> And just to turn this back to the small Ford topic what would you
> suggest as the minimum power (peak and RMS.) for my 85 B-II to have
> clean sound at 'below concert' volumes?
>
> Me ----------------------------------------------------------------
> I have to answer your question from my "real world" experience. In
> other words, rather than answer you with technical accuracy, I'll use
> the same exaggerated BS that users and mfrs claim during their p-----g
> contests.

Thank you.. I try to reply to drivability questions in 'real world'
fashion too.

I wouldn't trust 'specs' quoted hence the 'peak & RMS.' modifier. (You
passed THAT hurdle with flying colors!)

> It doesn't help if I give you what I feel are honest "home
> stereo" specs if the entire car stereo industry is hooked on fantasy.

Nope.. I can PO my neighbors just as quickly inside with 100W/Ch as
24/Ch in my truck. It IS apples and oranges. I guess Db or SPL really
is the only true level (if even THAT is). Of course being inside or
outside has an effect also as does the acoustics of a vehicle Vs. a
home.

> And please understand that my expertise is limited to live music,
> recording studios, custom home audio, and radio broadcasting.

Probably why I'm asking you.. you deal with *real* sounding reproduction

> I'm not
> an expert on car audio (which does have its own witchcraft)

Personally I'd say that witchcraft involves making the Bass take
precedence over the rest of the spectrum and that is **NOT** what I
want. I've seen Dodge truck doors flexing 1/4" at a light from the
idiotic Bass thumping. Yes Medicare WILL be broke in twenty years as the
youngsters now have hearing problems from the 'thumpers'.. I'd rather
spend a half Hour at the range with my 9 mm without ear protection than
10 Minutes riding with (many) youngsters. (An aside to the thumpers..
Turn that damn thing DOWN if you take it somewhere to be worked on.
Never done it, but when I get in a vehicle and my ears are assaulted by
loud music I just want to take a screwdriver to the speakers!.. Not a
good thing to PO the guy working on your car..)

> Therefore...
>
{snip}

> could want (oh, I'd wanted to put in larger drivers, but never got
> around to it). The specs that came with the stereo said, 'well, ahem,
> the 65 watts is peak for both channels combined. It's 32.5 combined
> RMS.' Tim, do you get the picture? What I do like about this fake
> "Lear Jet" product is that it has a: a 5-band equalizer, and b: Dolby
> for the tape (a true neccessity if you're going to play music tapes).

I get it and knew it.. I hope some of the other readers will as well.
My 24W (peak) per handles 95% of my listening needs and a 1-200W amp
would more than exceed what I ask of a *MOBILE* radio. I like to be
able to hear ambulances approaching etc.

>
> Despite my being an audio expert, as you may guess, I think that putting
> an audiophile system into a vehicle is lunacy; road noise defeats the
> whole concept (I won't explain why now). Believe it or not, a good 6x9
> speaker can give pleasing classical music (or jazz) reproduction in a
> car (until you pass that semi).

THANK YOU! there is no need for Mega-Watts of power in a vehicle other
than competition. Just as I dont run open headers and a full race cam
at a stop light why do I hear competition class radios booming through
my window? (Not directed at you Richard; rhetorical.) For that matter
in my RF transmitters I dont use over 150 Watts and I can talk around
the world.. why do I need more in my stereo?)

>
> Did this answer your question?
>

Very well. I think you affirmed my opinion that other than my favorite
songs I'm OK with what I have and a 100W with better speakers would be
all (more!) than I need. (Maybe 200W for Kim's car.. she likes it louder
than I.)
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:39:40 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Good Things About Aerostars

Anthony Rio wrote:
>
> 6) Blends in with rush hour "soccer-mom" suburban traffic.

True.. for those of us that partake of 'adult beverages' it's
camouflage on the way home, but I think I'll stick to my other old
Fords.

TT
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:13:11 -0600
From: Matthew Banevich
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Hey Ken, stereo list maybe

To be honest to you, peak power and RMS are pretty much the same thing,
it's just that RMS has an electrical name to it ( Root Mean Square )
when you work the electrical numbers out, the crap comes out pretty much
the same. I have an '89 Bronco II, and I have a JVC cd player/changer
control/and receiver with a 35 watt amplifier.... it sounds great in the
truck, but if you want a little more power consider a seperate
amplifier, you can use it to make your radio's amp work less, because if
you really look at it, the amplifier in the rado is really small, a few
transistors and capacitors, while the amplifiers are much bigger and
better equipped to handle the heat.

Now, the biggest thing to remember is that for the most part, you aren't
going to overpower your speakers, most people underpower their preakers,
thus blowing them.. to be honest go between 35-70 watts per speaker,
that will give you plenty to keep outside noise outside.

Good Luck
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:14:51 -0700
From: "Ken St.John"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging

I have a '91 Explorer that only pings in the morning, with the accelerator
all the way to the floor, and climbing a hill (or on a hot day in the
summer). I've replaced all the sensors myself because Ford gave this a
"clean bill of health". The advice I had on this site in the past was to
replace the EGR valve. The '91 doesn't have this. I also have a "hypertech
chip" but have removed this with the same results. I use 91 Octane and if
use anything less, it really pings! But, the big question is...why does
this only occur in the morning or on a good hot day? I'm in Utah with an
altitude of 4500 ft. above sea level.
Any suggestions on this?

Ken
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From: "Wayne"
To:
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:14:09 -0800

Mine has never pinged, I have the same vehicle. Wayne.
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From: Neil Brownlee
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging


>Hi, just a small question .... what in 'pinging', I have an Explorer and
was
>just wondering...I am from the UK BTW.
>
>Neil
>
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>From:
>To:
>Sent: 18 February 1999 12:56
>Subject: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging
>
>
>>
>>
>>I have a 98 Explorer with 4.0L SOHC and 7000 miles. When I accelerate
>>moderately I get severe pinging. The manual says use 87 octane - I've
>tried
>>some different brands but always have the problem. It gets a little
>better
>>when I use 89 octane. I brought it to the dealer and they said all the
>>computer codes came up neg. (Of course they did not test drive it because
>then
>>they might have accidently identified a problem). My question - Is this
>>pinging normal for these engines (Just Fords way of making sure they don't
>last
>>too long) or is there something I can have done to fix it?
>>
>>
>>
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