small-list-digest Monday, February 22 1999 Volume 03 : Number 048



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In this issue:

FTE Small - ranger wheel well noise
Re: FTE Small - Roll Pan?
FTE Small - Better bass suggestions?
FTE Small - Hey Ken, stereo list maybe
Re: FTE Small - Better bass suggestions?
Re: FTE Small - Better bass suggestions?
Re: FTE Small - To-Tim Turner- sensors
Re: FTE Small - In which I Praise my Aerostar
Re: FTE Small - Hey Ken, stereo list maybe?
Re: FTE Small - Hey Ken, stereo list maybe
FTE Small - Skid Plate
Re: FTE Small - Better bass suggestions?

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 03:29:28 -0800
From: captainrat
Subject: FTE Small - ranger wheel well noise

recently my wife began noticing a flapping-rattle sound in our 96 ranger
while moving. turned out to be the plastic mud-shield on the forward
side of the rear wheel wells. nothing was broken or detatched, but the
plastic, just supported on each end, would obviously be noisy in the
wind. the material must have been stiffer when new.
i applied my years of experience as a baling-wire mechanic and
constructed an aftermarket enhanced support system,, eliminating the
unnecessary noise. ford engineers-- feel free to use my idea on future
models.
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- ---it's a friendly universe
- --Captain RAT (captainrat inficad.com)
- -www.inficad.com/~captainrat

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:14:35 -0500
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Roll Pan?

luke wells wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a roll pan either steel or fiberglass for a splash or
> flareside 96 ranger. I know that these models have the piece of
> fiberglass shape sticking out and i was hoping to find a good looking
> roll pan that covers this without looking obvious. Thanks
>
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I have plastic one for sale...bought it from downs ford but traded the
Splash for a Lightning before I ever installed. 25 plus shipping...you
can cut those tabs off!
Chris
94 Lightning #381
NLOC #238
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:19:21 -0800
From: rgstein pacbell.net
Subject: FTE Small - Better bass suggestions?

I have a 350 watt amp pushing 2 Rockford Fosgate 8"'s. I am
going to replace those with some bigger speakers, but same amp. Would I
produce more bass from 2 10"'s or from 1 12"? I would bridge the amp to
the 12 so that it would be getting all the power. Or if I had the 10's I
would simply put one channel to each speaker. Which would sound better?
thanx in advance...
Joe

Depends on the individual speaker, how well the baffling is matched to
the speaker. 8" is an outstanding speaker size, in general, it will
deliver better transients than larger drivers. Capability below around
50 hz is a total waste, since there's virtually no music down there. In
fact, when I was testing speakers, I evaluated the low frequency
information on a number of recordings. The surprise was that with the
rock music I ran, there was nothing under 60 hz, and even that was very
rare.

My second reply is more serious. How will your hearing survive this
kind of sonic energy? Hearing damage from high-energy sound is
permanent.

Richard
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:24:04 -0800
From: rgstein pacbell.net
Subject: FTE Small - Hey Ken, stereo list maybe

From: Tim Turner
Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------
What are chances of starting a Ford Truck audio list? 'Fordio FTE.com'
:-) Seriously though, it seems there's been quite a few lately (along
with Db debates..) Just a thought.
Tim Turner

Rchard ---------------------------------------------------------------
What? What? Speak up, sonny: I can't hear you worth a damn. Turn up
the stereo while you're at it, I can hardly hear that damn 350-watt
amplifier I just bought (that salesman lied about the power, I just know
it). Ach, those mechanics always mumble so I can't understand them.

Richard
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:31:18 -0600
From: "John Becker"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Better bass suggestions?

How far away can you hear it?

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> From: rgstein pacbell.net
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE Small - Better bass suggestions?
> Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 12:19 PM
>
> I have a 350 watt amp pushing 2 Rockford Fosgate 8"'s. I am
> going to replace those with some bigger speakers, but same amp. Would I
> produce more bass from 2 10"'s or from 1 12"? I would bridge the amp to
> the 12 so that it would be getting all the power. Or if I had the 10's I
> would simply put one channel to each speaker. Which would sound better?
> thanx in advance...
> Joe
>
> Depends on the individual speaker, how well the baffling is matched to
> the speaker. 8" is an outstanding speaker size, in general, it will
> deliver better transients than larger drivers. Capability below around
> 50 hz is a total waste, since there's virtually no music down there. In
> fact, when I was testing speakers, I evaluated the low frequency
> information on a number of recordings. The surprise was that with the
> rock music I ran, there was nothing under 60 hz, and even that was very
> rare.
>
> My second reply is more serious. How will your hearing survive this
> kind of sonic energy? Hearing damage from high-energy sound is
> permanent.
>
> Richard
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:43:14 -0600
From: Jordan
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Better bass suggestions?

At 01:39 PM 2/20/99 PST, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>I have a few questions that some of you audio buffs' might know.
>Currently, I have a 350 watt amp pushing 2 Rockford Fosgate 8"'s. I am
>going to replace those with some bigger speakers, but same amp. Would I
>produce more bass from 2 10"'s or from 1 12"? I would bridge the amp to
>the 12 so that it would be getting all the power. Or if I had the 10's I
>would simply put one channel to each speaker. Which would sound better?
>thanx in advance...
>Joe
One, MTX thunder 7000 10" bridge the amp, I'm serious, a buddy has one, and
oh my is is awesome, (I have a thunder 5000 10") MTX speakers sound
awesome and have massive power handling (the 7000 has like a 6lb magnet).

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:30:31 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - To-Tim Turner- sensors

Wag wrote:
>
> you wrote-
> > coolant sensor was locked at 21 Degrees
>
> Out of curiosity, what was the above symptoms?

Either high idle or wont idle (Would idle high until hot then there was
just too much fuel for that poor 4 cylinder to deal with).

> I have a 91 Explorer with
> 188K and have never needed or realized I needed to change out any sensor
> other than PCV. What sensors should I be worrying about. I keep hearing
> about the O2 sensor but I have no symptoms of something wrong? "gas
> mileage maybe getting worse but I attributed that to a tired engine"

Probably wouldn't hurt to change the O2s; they usually get pretty
sluggish after 100K or so. If you're not having any odd drivability
problems I wouldn't worry too much about any of the 15 or so sensors.
:-)

>
> This winter I have developed a sticking lifter/valve on COLD mornings. It
> stops after warm up. Any easy fixes? This engine has never been touched
> except the water pump.

You might try an engine oil flush, but that can carry risks also.. If
you're not using much oil you might try a thinner oil. (5w30 if you're
using 10w30 or 10w30 if you're using 20w50)


TT
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:41:57 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - In which I Praise my Aerostar

rgstein pacbell.net wrote:
>
> I do not wish for all of you to think that I am an Aero-sourpuss. In my
> present state of benevolence, here are some things that I like about my
> '92 Aerostar.
>
> 1. I like the optional rear air conditioner. This blows down from
> above, and when the vents are pointed downward, provides a
> well-circulated gentle breeze similar to the airflow on an Amtrak train
> or central air conditioning.

Enjoy it while it works.. you've been warned. ;-)

> 11. I am happy to do my part to end "welfare-as-we-know-it." I am
> eagerly looking forward to hiring my first squirrel monkey mechanic to
> work on my Aerostar.

As the only thin framed tech at the shop I seem to get most of these
beasties. (Or at least get asked to reach certain places for my more
muscular co-workers!)

>
> There, you have it. Grateful words about my Aerostar. See? It's not
> all bad.
>

No there are some good things about them and even some relatively
trouble-free ones on the road.

TT
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:44:30 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Hey Ken, stereo list maybe?

Ken Payne wrote:
>
> I don't think we have enough support for one. The web site BBS,
> however, has an audio section.
>


I didnt know that (or had forgotten). Thanks for the consideration and
quick response!

TT
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:53:56 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Hey Ken, stereo list maybe

rgstein pacbell.net wrote:
>
> From: Tim Turner
> Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------
> What are chances of starting a Ford Truck audio list? 'Fordio FTE.com'
> :-) Seriously though, it seems there's been quite a few lately (along
> with Db debates..) Just a thought.
> Tim Turner
>
> Rchard ---------------------------------------------------------------
> What? What? Speak up, sonny: I can't hear you worth a damn. Turn up
> the stereo while you're at it, I can hardly hear that damn 350-watt
> amplifier I just bought (that salesman lied about the power, I just know
> it).

Sorry.. only 24W per on my old Rat Shack Optimus.. cant make it real
loud. :-)

> Ach, those mechanics always mumble so I can't understand them.

Actually I AM soft spoken, I think the word most used by Kim in our
conversations is "what?". I do articulate well though rather than
mumbling, just at a low volume.

And just to turn this back to the small Ford topic what would you
suggest as the minimum power (peak and RMS.) for my 85 B-II to have
clean sound at 'below concert' volumes?

TT
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:45:18 -0500
From: "Eric Davis"
Subject: FTE Small - Skid Plate

Does anyone know where I can get a front skid plate for my 98 Ranger. I
would like one that cover the radiator and all of the stuff in the front.
Thanks

Eric Davis
98 4x4 Ranger,
Edlebrock muffler, K&N.


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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:58:58 EST
From: Maxima1990 AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Better bass suggestions?

I have 2 MTX Blue Thunder 10's in a box with 2 tweeters in the top, in the
back of my 92 Explorer. I havent bought an amp yet but just running straight
to the deck this setup sounds awesome! The tweeters have crossovers built into
the box and they produce a super crisp sound and the 10's give great bass! If....


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