small-list-digest Saturday, February 20 1999 Volume 03 : Number 046



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Ranger, Explorer, Bronco 2 and Aerostar
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In this issue:

FTE Small - Re: K&N Oil Filter
Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging
Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging
FTE Small - Aerostar transmission problems
FTE Small - Re: ranger question
FTE Small - Aerostar Bumpers
FTE Small - Starter problems, Ford Service
FTE Small - Problem downshifting
Re: FTE Small - Re: ranger question
FTE Small - Re: FTE 97up - Ranger Mileage
Re: FTE Small - Problem downshifting
Re: FTE Small - Re: EGR etc was Ranger Mileage
FTE Small - EEC-IV Reset Correction
FTE Small - Re: modern miracle of plastic
RE: FTE Small - Problem downshifting
FTE Small - Husky Liners
FTE Small - Water Pump
Re: FTE Small - Problem downshifting

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 04:35:52 PST
From: "Joe Mitchell"
Subject: FTE Small - Re: K&N Oil Filter

>From: J Cope

>Does anyone know where in eastern Mass I can get a K&N oil filter?
I've been looking pretty hard to no avail...
>BTW, I drive an 88 BII.
>Thanks!


Well, I didn't even try looking around here, since I was almost certain
I would find nothing. I found one for my 91 Ranger from Summit Racing
(www.summitracing.com). I'm sure they'll have one for you if you call
and tell them your exact vehicle, etc. Phone # is on the website...
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 07:56:50 -0500
From: millered pb.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging

to: "Neil Brownlee"


Sorry I forgot we have world wide communications - Pinging is American slang for
pre-ignition ie. the fuel explodes too early
during the compression stroke. On older engines it can be caused by carbon
buildup which acts like a glow plug.
If I knew anymore I guess I could fix it myself.


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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:01:41 -0500
From: millered pb.com
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging

Tim Turner

Thanks for the reply - Sorry, I'd love to bring it by the shop but I live in CT.


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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:18:38 -0600
From: Wayne Haley
Subject: FTE Small - Aerostar transmission problems

Don't like the burned appearance of the transmission fluid, Victor. The ATf
in my '93 Astar ALWAYS looks a nice healthy red when I check it. Mine came
from the factory with a transmission fluid cooler and I highly recommend
adding them for any vehicle. A good tranny guy told me this after I burned
out the high speed bands in a 78 Chevy van. A friend that I work with (who
unlike me actually knows what he is talking about) thinks that the delay you
are experiencing when you shift into reverse is a sign that the fluid is
low. When you checked the fluid, was the engine running with the
transmission shifted into neutral? Sounds to me like the first step is a
flush, filter change and refill with fresh fluid, then watch it for awhile.
Hopefully the problem is as simple as that. You might keep an eye out for
any leaks.

I have been suprised that no one has jumped on the Ranger to Astar bumper
replacement! Could I have stumped the experts? I will call the local Ford
Store when they open and see if anyone in the service department knows. If
I find out anything (other than their service department is populated by
idiots) I will post it up.
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:04:28 -0500
From: Donald Canavan
Subject: FTE Small - Re: ranger question

I have a 98 ranger supercab with a 4L moter that is only 6 months old (4000 miles old). I get only 14 mpg in the city.

> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:29:51 -0500 (EST)
> From: fss altavista.net
> Subject: FTE Small - Re: Ranger question
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: bcmayer nucleus.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 1999 1:12 AM
> To: small-list ford-trucks.com; Rick Sapir
> Subject: FTE Small - Ranger question
>
> I just purchased a 1990 Ford Ranger with the 4sp auto and 2.9L motor. The
> truck is like new with only 71000 km. My question is what kind of gas
> milege are other Ranger owners getting. The mileage I seem to be getting
> for city travel is only 17mpg. Is this normal, I was expecting at least in
> the 20's.
> - ---------------------------
>
> I have a '98 SuperCab, 2.5L 5-speed with 10K. I have been getting ~20MPG in the city and almost 23MPG on the highway.
>
>

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:12:17 -0600
From: Wayne Haley
Subject: FTE Small - Aerostar Bumpers

Victor, Richard, Interested Others - I called the local Ford dealership and
the service manager said he is "relatively certain" that the support
brackets for the Astar would line up with the Ranger bumper, but that the
differential curvature would have to be dealt with in trying to fit them.
If he is correct, the pre-runner bumpers from James Duff should work since
they are just a couple of pieces of tubular steel. You might want to
contact them directly at (360) 683-2160. Who knows, you may be on your way
to creating a monster show truck!
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:24:54 -0800
From: Brian Pynn
Subject: FTE Small - Starter problems, Ford Service

Here's a question for anybody who's ever taken a Ford vehicle in for
warranty service (which undoubtedly is all of us). Do you think Ford would
fix a problem, but not document it as a problem, so they could have fewer
records of quality issues?

Here's my line of thinking. On two occasions, I have brought my 97 Ranger
into my local dealer (Vancouver, BC) and on both occasions my problems have
magically vanished even though the dealer's invoice showed "no problem
found". Example #1...my starter was fluttering/chirping/whining for about
15 seconds almost every time I started the truck. Asked them to repair or
replace the starter but they reported no problem found. However, in the
days since I got the truck back from it's oil change and starter
complaint...the starter works perfect. Example #2...reported a rattle from
under my dash, asked the guys to look for it when I brought the truck in for
regular oil change service...again, invoice said basically, "sorry, no
problem found". Yet I haven't heard the rattle again in two months.

I'm not senile and I'm not hearing things. Let's face it, when you baby
your vehicle like I'm sure most of us do...you know when you've got a
legitimate rattle or whine problem. And you know when it's been taken care
of. Why would Ford fix something then say it was never there in the first
place? I'd be interested in reading similar experiences or thoughts on this
matter.

Brian Pynn
97 Ranger S/C 3.0L 5spd
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:37:04 -0500
From: Steve P
Subject: FTE Small - Problem downshifting

Hi All... I am new to the list, and of course I have a new(to me) '87
Bronco II with a problem :-)

The main problem right now is that the truck won't downshift at all, I
can manually shift out of OD, or D and the truck will hold those gears
until "normal" but the trans won't kickdown of it own accord. I am
kinda new to working on Fords, mainly owned Chryslers and Chevys in the
past, but we are a 3 Ford family now so I guess I won't get too many
flames for my tag-line :-)

Another problem I have is that my Heater fan has only two settings...
High and off... the others do nothing... is there a quick fix for this?

Last thing is my 2.9l has less power than my Ranger 2.3l.... is there
any common problem that might cause this or would you people say that is
about normal for an engine with 87,000mi on it? What other engine can I
drop in easily down the road???

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:56:55 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re: ranger question

Donald Canavan wrote:
>
> I have a 98 ranger supercab with a 4L moter that is only 6 months old (4000 miles old). I get only 14 mpg in the city.
>


wow... that is really bad. I haven't documented my city driving, but I
suspect my '97 supercab 4x4 STX is getting 3-4 mpg better than that at
least. Are you in a northern location that uses that crappy aerated gas
or whatever it is in the winter? Also, do you tend to tromp the gas &
spin the tires at every start? Auto or manual trans? Or does that make
much difference these days (seeing as how they are putting 5spd autos in
these days... a far cry from my old 2 spd "powerglide" equipped Olds
from high school).

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:32:17 -0800
From: "Pete Lawless"
Subject: FTE Small - Re: FTE 97up - Ranger Mileage

Alan Wilson wrote:
>I have a '98 3.0 liter Supercab Ranger. Initially I got about 15.5
>mpg...recently I checked it and I got about 16.2 mpg I have 12,000
>miles on it.
Peter wrote:
> :I have a '97 Ranger XLT with the 3.0 liter and 5 speed. The truck has
just
> :over 8000 kms (I am up here in Canada). At the last fill up I calculated
my
> :gas mileage as 14.5 mpg.

All you guys are making me feel pretty good about my mileage right about
now.... My '88 2.9Ltr (about 12,000 miles on a rebuild) 4x4 pushing big 35"
Mud Terrains, with a K&N filter, JET Performance Module, RV Cam, JBA
headers and completely new CAT back exhaust system, including new hi flow
cats and Flowmaster muffler is getting between 15.5 and 16.5 MPG depending
on how heavey the commute traffic is. :-)

Later..... Pete
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:15:18 -0500
From: Dave Slotter
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Problem downshifting

> Another problem I have is that my Heater fan has only two settings...
> High and off... the others do nothing... is there a quick fix for this?

A more rare type of Ford - Merkurs - suffer from this problem. It's
caused by a resistor going bad in the blower control. I can't give
you more info than this - so you should dig into your electrical
troubleshooting manual (if you need one, buy it from Helm if they
still carry them). I don't have their number handy, so you'll have to
do a little research.

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:20:07 -0500
From: Dave Slotter
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re: EGR etc was Ranger Mileage

At 9:28 PM -0500 2/18/99, Tim Turner wrote:

> I'd replace the EGR AND it's sensor, go ahead and replace the O2 if it's
> been in there more than 50,000 miles and recheck after a few days to
> verify all is well. :-)

The O2 sensor was recently replaced (

> ... (will take some 60 cycles of the key to clear the codes in the
> 'CONT' section, but the KOER should be OK). Let us know if it
> doesn't and we'll help!

Thanks, Tim. By the way, you can clear the stored codes on the
EEC-IV. I believe you can do one or both of the following things to
clear them:

1. After KOEO and KOER tests have been run and all codes have been
received, disconnect your jumper between the Self Test Input (wire
dangling by itself) and the Signal Return pin (before turning key to
OFF position or disconnecting your voltmeter).

2. Leave battery disconnected for half an hour. (You may be able to
get away with a shorter interval, but this should be more than
sufficient.)

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:34:22 -0500
From: Dave Slotter
Subject: FTE Small - EEC-IV Reset Correction

I apologize - I left out a step which is necessary for clearing the
stored codes on the EEC-IV. Here are the two methods of clearing the
stored codes. You only need to use one of them.

1. After KOEO and KOER tests have been run and all codes have been
received, disconnect your jumper between the Self Test Input (wire
dangling by itself) and the Signal Return pin (before turning key to
OFF position or disconnecting your voltmeter) AND then reconnect that
jumper as it was before.

2. Leave battery disconnected for half an hour. (You may be able to
get away with a shorter interval, but this should be more than
sufficient.)

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:32:32 -0600
From: "Randy Collins"
Subject: FTE Small - Re: modern miracle of plastic

We all appreciate your being so candid, Richard! I agree with you whole
heartedly. Why can't we get an air filter housing on our early 90's
explorers with fasteners that don't get screwed up every time you change
the filter?

Aside, I see your address is at Pacific Bell. Is that your provider, or do
you work there? Curious because I work at SWBYP.

ran



> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:04:54 -0800
> From: rgstein pacbell.net
> Subject: FTE Small - The Modern Miracle of Plastic
>
> Tim Turner replied to Eric's post ------------
> Subject: Re: FTE Small - Off road
>
> Eric Davis wrote:
> >
> > Went off-road this weekend and busted off my plastic air dam, left fog
> > light, and a plastic thing that covers the bottom of the radiator.
Total
> > cost to fix all this is coming to around $140. Just telling ever one
out
> > there that has a 98 or above to watch out when you go off road.
>
>
> Hate it for Ya, but that's the way it is now.. A quick trip off-road can
> be expensive. I'll stick to my old B-II that I can dent up and not
> worry too much... I'm not trying to make light
> of your damage, just making people aware that going OFF the road can be
> expensive or vehicle damaging and be aware of the possibility before it
> happens.
>
> Me -----------------------------------------------------------------
> (Another response to a poster who recently wrote, "...tell us how you
> feel, Richard")
> With all the bucks that we paid to Ford for our vehicles (and in light
> of the Company's profitability), I don't feel that it is unreasonable
> for us to expect a reasonable amount of metal in our vehicles. Also,
> worthwhile bumpers, drain plugs on torque converters, differentials,
> etc. And adequate access so that it doesn't cost a fortune to maintain
> and repair them.
> I don't believe that planned obsolescence is a reality, but these
> vehicles sure give you a sharp kick in the n**s when they tear up due to
> the manufacturer's brazen stinginess.
>
> Richard
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:11:22 -0500
From: Burnett
Subject: RE: FTE Small - Problem downshifting

Steve P wrote:
>
> Last thing is my 2.9l has less power than my Ranger 2.3l.... is there
> any common problem that might cause this or would you people say that is
> about normal for an engine with 87,000mi on it? What other engine can I
> drop in easily down the road???
>
While I don't know much about the 2.3L, my 2.9L had good power when I
replaced it at 115k miles with a cracked head. I'm still breaking in my
reman 2.9L, so I haven't really opened it up yet, but my old engine ran at
least as well in 1000-3000 RPM range as the new one. I'm hoping the new
engine will have better power in the 4000-5000 RPM range, but I'll have to
wait and see.

The more common problems with the 2.9L that will affect power/fuel economy
are all the standard stuff - timing, O2 sensor, plugs, cap, rotor, etc.
Make sure the fuel filter has been replaced - the manual says it's 'life of
the vehicle' so some people don't change theirs.

BTW - the power specs. for the 2.9L are 140 HP 2600 RPM and 170 lb./ft.
4000 RPM.

Hope this helps!!
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:26:49 -0500
From: "Craig Rabin"
Subject: FTE Small - Husky Liners

snip.......how are the Husky Liner or Catch - All floor mats? Worth the
money?...... snip

I have the Husky Liners and they work great. They seem to hold all the snow,
dirt, and water that I drag in on my boots. My ONLY grip is that by the
accelorator pedal, the mat should come higher to the right of the pedal to
protect the carpet. Other than that, they work well. I have dumped out about
a pound of sand from the mats, while the carpet was virtually sand free.
Watch the price though, I got mine for $20 less through a sportsmans truck
catalog vs a truck accessory catalog


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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:12:21 -0800
From: Adam McLaughlin
Subject: FTE Small - Water Pump

Hi,

I have coolant leaking down the front of the engine block of my 1988 Bronco
2. It is a 2.9, with AC. It also squeals the belts when you first start the
motor on a cold morning. So, this weekend I would like to pull out the pump
and put a new pump and gasket in. Anyone have any ideas how I could get the
fan off of the front pully quickly? Tried it a few weeks ago, and I
couldn't budge the left hand thread to remove it. The chilton's book says
that I need to get it off to replace the pump, but has anyone got any
better/easier ideas on how to get this done?

Thanks,

Adam
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:43:56 -0700
From: "Doug Crann"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Problem downshifting

The resisitor is in the heater box under the hood. It is more then likely
cooked. Every Ranger/B2 I have owned (4) have had this problem....
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From: Dave Slotter
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Problem downshifting


>> Another problem I have is that my Heater fan has only two settings...
>> High and off... the others do nothing... is there a quick fix for this?
>
>A more rare type of Ford - Merkurs - suffer from this problem. It's
>caused by a resistor going bad in the blower control. I can't give
>you more info than this - so you should dig into your electrical
>troubleshooting manual (if you need one, buy it from Helm if they....


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