small-list-digest Friday, February 19 1999 Volume 03 : Number 045



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In this issue:

FTE Small - Explorer Thumping Noise
FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging
Re: FTE Small - AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket
FTE Small - Ranger Mileage
FTE Small - Re: Ranger question
FTE Small - Aerostar sounds and bumpers
Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging
FTE Small - RE: AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket
FTE Small - RE: Small - Stereo
Re: FTE Small - Off road
Re: FTE Small - RE: AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket
Re: FTE Small - RE: AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket
Re: FTE Small - Ranger question
FTE Small - Re: FTE 97up - Ranger Mileage
Re: FTE Small - Ranger Mileage
Re: FTE Small - Ranger Mileage
Re: FTE Small - Ranger question
Re: FTE Small - Ranger question
FTE Small - K&N Oil Filters
FTE Small - Stereo won't maintain presets
FTE Small - The Modern Miracle of Plastic
Re: FTE Small - Re: Off road
Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging
Re: FTE Small - Off road
FTE Small - Help: Looking for Stock 4.0L MAF meter & Airbox
Re: FTE Small - The Modern Miracle of Plastic
Re: FTE Small - RE: Small - Stereo
FTE Small - Re: EGR etc was Ranger Mileage
Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging
Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging
FTE Small - Lowering?
Re: FTE Small - AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket
Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:14:31 -0600
From: "Strukel, Mike"
Subject: FTE Small - Explorer Thumping Noise

Last November, I purchased a 98 Explorer 2 dr. 4x4(new). It has been a
great vehicle, except for one problem. When I hit any bumps in the road
with the rear tires, it makes a terrible thumping/pounding noise. The
best way to describe it would be someone banging on a base drum in the back!
At slower speeds, you can hear the thump being associated with each
individual bump, but when you go down the freeway at higher speeds, it turns
into more of a rumble (due to the frequency of the bumps). This is driving
me nuts! Has anyone else had this type of problem? I spent some time
under the truck and I can not find anything loose.

Mike
98 Explorer
99 F250 SD (ordered)
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:56:30 -0500
From: millered pb.com
Subject: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging

I have a 98 Explorer with 4.0L SOHC and 7000 miles. When I accelerate
moderately I get severe pinging. The manual says use 87 octane - I've tried
some different brands but always have the problem. It gets a little better
when I use 89 octane. I brought it to the dealer and they said all the
computer codes came up neg. (Of course they did not test drive it because then
they might have accidently identified a problem). My question - Is this
pinging normal for these engines (Just Fords way of making sure they don't last
too long) or is there something I can have done to fix it?




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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 05:07:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill Ciocco
Subject: Re: FTE Small - AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket

I have an '87 BII. I had the system converted to 134a last time i
installed a condenser. It quieted the compressor and giives great
cooling.

I have heard varying reports from users of other makes, but it seems
to do well for the BII.





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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:14:39 -0600
From: "NinjaRider"
Subject: FTE Small - Ranger Mileage

Hello All,

I have a '97 Ranger XLT with the 3.0 liter and 5 speed. The truck has just
over 8000 kms (I am up here in Canada). At the last fill up I calculated my
gas mileage as 14.5 mpg. This seems a bit low to me or is it because the
engine is still breaking in? Should it be getting a higher mileage?

Thanks,
Peter

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1986 Kawasaki Zx1000R Ninja
1997 Ford Ranger XLT
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:29:51 -0500 (EST)
From: fss altavista.net
Subject: FTE Small - Re: Ranger question

- -----Original Message-----
From:bcmayer nucleus.com
Sent:Thursday, February 18, 1999 1:12 AM
To:small-list ford-trucks.com; Rick Sapir
Subject:FTE Small - Ranger question

I just purchased a 1990 Ford Ranger with the 4sp auto and 2.9L motor. The
truck is like new with only 71000 km. My question is what kind of gas
milege are other Ranger owners getting. The mileage I seem to be getting
for city travel is only 17mpg. Is this normal, I was expecting at least in
the 20's.
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I have a '98 SuperCab, 2.5L 5-speed with 10K. I have been getting ~20MPG in the city and almost 23MPG on the highway.


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Raleigh, NC USA ricks99 netzero.net
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:04:56 -0500 (EST)
From: Victor L Moran
Subject: FTE Small - Aerostar sounds and bumpers

Wayne,
Thanks for the advice on the bumper and the tranny. As it turns out I
finally tracked down the sound using www.nhsta.com/. It turns out that
there is a TSB out about the ticking. It's caused by an improperly bonded
drive shaft and yolk.
I had a friend of mine change the drive shaft for me a few months ago and
we still had the problem. Turns out that the car he took the shaft off
of was an exact match for mine (year, make, model) and so had the same
problem. I'm looking into the possibilty of using a later model shaft in
this van.
I'm going to go have the tranny checked out, I checked the fluid and it
does not look a healthy red, it looks burnt. What can cause that?

If anyone has any ideas about ranger bumpers on aerostars, please let me
know. My girlfriend is going to be driving my van alot and I can't afford
the screw-ups she makes when parking!

Victor.

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:10:00 -0000
From: "Neil Brownlee"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging

Hi, just a small question .... what in 'pinging', I have an Explorer and was
just wondering...I am from the UK BTW.

Neil

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From:
To:
Sent: 18 February 1999 12:56
Subject: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging


>
>
>I have a 98 Explorer with 4.0L SOHC and 7000 miles. When I accelerate
>moderately I get severe pinging. The manual says use 87 octane - I've
tried
>some different brands but always have the problem. It gets a little
better
>when I use 89 octane. I brought it to the dealer and they said all the
>computer codes came up neg. (Of course they did not test drive it because
then
>they might have accidently identified a problem). My question - Is this
>pinging normal for these engines (Just Fords way of making sure they don't
last
>too long) or is there something I can have done to fix it?
>
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:22:52 -0600
From: John Bartin
Subject: FTE Small - RE: AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket

I had the compressor seize in my '95 Explorer a couple of months ago. The
dealer replaced the compressor, evaporator, orifice tube, and serpentine
belt. I don't know what it cost because it was under extended warranty,
but I 'll bet it paid for the warranty!

John
95 Explorer XLT 4.0 4X4
95 Ranger SC 4.0 4X4

You wrote:

Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 02:26:59 -0500
From: "Anthony Rifici"
Subject: FTE Small - AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket

I had posted late last year when my AC compressor decided to seize and
take a hole out of my wallet. I now have the time to get it fixed, so the
questions for the group are: Has anybody had a seized compressor replaced
and how much did it cost? What else had to be replaced along with the
compressor? I am specifically interested in those of you who have had this
done on an R134a system as I have a 94 Ranger 4.0L w/ R134a.
etc..................................


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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:26:25 -0500
From: "Mike McNany"
Subject: FTE Small - RE: Small - Stereo

SNIP
Every time I leave my truck sitting for a couple of
days,I lose the presets on the stereo. Any ideas?
TIA>
STOP letting your spouse/kids drive it. :>)

Sorry I couldn't resist, cause of my experiences. No probs with the battery?

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:40:12 -0700
From: Dave Armbruster
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Off road

Besides the obvious damage potential, you aren't covered under insurance for
stuff that happens offroad (at least with State Farm). I have come across a
few people who didn't realize that. In truth, you are lucky to only have
broken peripheral stuff, could have easily been a twisted driveshaft or
something serious that would require trailside repairs (you *do* carry tools
and an assortment of parts and pieces, right?).

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>
> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:05:44 -0500
> From: Tim Turner
> Subject: Re: FTE Small - Off road
>
> Eric Davis wrote:
> >
> > Went off-road this weekend and busted off my plastic air dam, left fog
> > light, and a plastic thing that covers the bottom of the radiator. Total
> > cost to fix all this is coming to around $140. Just telling ever one out
> > there that has a 98 or above to watch out when you go off road.
>
>
> Hate it for Ya, but that's the way it is now.. A quick trip off-road can
> be expensive. I'll stick to my old B-II that I can dent up and not
> worry too much. $140 was pretty cheap too.. I've seen $500 for the
> minor damage you describe on some makes. I'm not trying to make light
> of your damage, just making people aware that going OFF the road can be
> expensive or vehicle damaging and be aware of the possibility before it
> happens.
>
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:55:07 -0700 (MST)
From: "Mark E. Monninger"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - RE: AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket

I had the A/C fixed on my 93 Ranger last summer...replaced everything but
the evaperator & condensor...about $1200 total. Here in Phoenix it's well
worth
it in July! I stayed with R-12...the service rep said it would be $200-300
more to convert to R-134 and it would probably not work as well. This was
at a Ford dealer. You could probably get it done cheaper elsewhere or if
you do some of the work yourself but I didn't have the time or inclination
to mess with it at the time.

Mark

On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, John Bartin wrote:

> I had the compressor seize in my '95 Explorer a couple of months ago. The
> dealer replaced the compressor, evaporator, orifice tube, and serpentine
> belt. I don't know what it cost because it was under extended warranty,
> but I 'll bet it paid for the warranty!
>
> John
> 95 Explorer XLT 4.0 4X4
> 95 Ranger SC 4.0 4X4
>
> You wrote:
>
> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 02:26:59 -0500
> From: "Anthony Rifici"
> Subject: FTE Small - AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket
>
> I had posted late last year when my AC compressor decided to seize and
> take a hole out of my wallet. I now have the time to get it fixed, so the
> questions for the group are: Has anybody had a seized compressor replaced
> and how much did it cost? What else had to be replaced along with the
> compressor? I am specifically interested in those of you who have had this
> done on an R134a system as I have a 94 Ranger 4.0L w/ R134a.
> etc..................................
>
>
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:18:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill Ciocco
Subject: Re: FTE Small - RE: AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket

I left off the cost on my previous post regarding the 134a conversion.
It cost approximately $100 additional to convert. I feel like this is
well worth it, as now I am able to do repairs on my a/c without having
to take it in and get overcharged for the refill.







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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:12:29 -0800
From: Adam McLaughlin
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ranger question

I am not surprised. My 1988 Bronco 2 has the 2.9 on a clutch, and when in 2
wheel high I get approximately 17.6 MPG city. I have 156,000 miles. I also
burn the premium stuff, etc.

Adam


At 11:01 PM 2/17/99 -0700, you wrote:
>I just purchased a 1990 Ford Ranger with the 4sp auto and 2.9L motor. The
>truck is like new with only 71000 km. My question is what kind of gas
>milege are other Ranger owners getting. The mileage I seem to be getting
>for city travel is only 17mpg. Is this normal, I was expecting at least in
>the 20's.
>
>
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:48:53 -0800
From: "Alan Wilson"
Subject: FTE Small - Re: FTE 97up - Ranger Mileage

I have a '98 3.0 liter Supercab Ranger. Initially I got about 15.5
mpg...recently I checked it and I got about 16.2 mpg I have 12,000 miles on it.

alannorthstar mindspring.com wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:14:39 -0600, you wrote:
>
> :Hello All,
> :
> :I have a '97 Ranger XLT with the 3.0 liter and 5 speed. The truck has just
> :over 8000 kms (I am up here in Canada). At the last fill up I calculated my
> :gas mileage as 14.5 mpg. This seems a bit low to me or is it because the
> :engine is still breaking in? Should it be getting a higher mileage?
> :
> :Thanks,
> :Peter
> :
> I have a 98 Ranger with the 3.0 and the 4-speed overdrive
> automatic. (4x4) and 14.5 is at the high end of what I've ever
> gotten! In the summer it is about 14, and in the winter it's
> averaging around 10mpg.
>
> Later,
> Alan
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:37:28 -0500
From: Dave Slotter
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ranger Mileage

My wife's '86 BII used to get about 16 mpg highway. After resetting
the base timing, we now get mpg highway. I think we may get even
better gas mileage after we replace a faulty EGR valve.

With KOEO we get 1's - GOOD
With KOER we get several codes which tells us our knock sensor didn't
register any knocking - which is funny as I don't think the 2.9 V6
has a knock sensor. We also get a code which says the EGR valve isn't
registering movement and another code which says the O2 sensor
detects we're running rich. I believe that if the EGR valve is
replaced, it may fix a whole slew of problems:

1. Easier startup in the morning
2. Better gas mileage
3. Lower emissions - pass emission inspection without waiver sticker
4. Remove trouble codes.

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:50:29 -0500
From: Dave Slotter
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ranger Mileage

> My wife's '86 BII used to get about 16 mpg highway. After resetting
> the base timing, we now get mpg highway. I think we may get even
> better gas mileage after we replace a faulty EGR valve.

I don't know what happened to my earlier message, but we get 25 mpg
highway now.

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:52:38 PST
From: "jarrod neslund"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ranger question

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>I just purchased a 1990 Ford Ranger with the 4sp auto and 2.9L motor.
The
>truck is like new with only 71000 km. My question is what kind of gas
>milege are other Ranger owners getting. The mileage I seem to be
getting
>for city travel is only 17mpg. Is this normal, I was expecting at
least in
>the 20's.
>
>
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>I also own a 1990 Ranger. Mine's a 2.3 liter 4 cylinder model with
four wheel drive (which I hardly ever use) and I barely get over 20mpg.
A friend of mine owns a '93 Ranger with a five speed and 3.0 and he only
gets around 18-20mpg.


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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:10:06 -0600 (CST)
From: Sandman
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ranger question

On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, jarrod neslund wrote:

> >
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> >I also own a 1990 Ranger. Mine's a 2.3 liter 4 cylinder model with
> four wheel drive (which I hardly ever use) and I barely get over 20mpg.
> A friend of mine owns a '93 Ranger with a five speed and 3.0 and he only
> gets around 18-20mpg.
>
>
> ______________________________________________________

My 89 2.3L Supercab Ranger gets about 25MPG on the highway. I once got
27MPG on the highway on a 400 mile round trip. In the city I get around
20-22. My Truck has 163K miles on it and still runs great and gets great
mileage. Seems most people here are getting less miles than me though.

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:35:10 -0500
From: J Cope
Subject: FTE Small - K&N Oil Filters

Does anyone know where in eastern Mass I can get a K&N oil filter? I've been looking pretty hard to no avail...
BTW, I drive an 88 BII.
Thanks!

JC

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:53:39 -0800
From: rgstein pacbell.net
Subject: FTE Small - Stereo won't maintain presets

"J.S.H." wrote -------------------------------
Subject: FTE Small - Stereo

Every time I leave my truck sitting for a couple of
days,I lose the presets on the stereo. Any ideas?
TIA

My reply ------------------------------------------------------------

This is a good one!
Off the top of my head:
1. Bad capacitor inside unit.
2. Bad integrated circuit.
3. Insufficient battery voltage to keep circuit above its required
threshold.

This last one came to mind as follows:
My mechanic decided to do me a favor and install acid-neutralizing rings
on my battery terminals. Water, moisture, etc. then mixed with the
substance and some of it leaked into the battery (remember, the new
batteries' filler holes are flush with the battery tops, a masterpiece
of bird-brain design). This caused the cell adjacent to the terminal to
go dead. Thus, instead of 12.6 battery volts, I had 10.5, with lots of
"oomph." Started every time. So, if your headlights dim lots when you
idle, this may be it.

Richard
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:04:54 -0800
From: rgstein pacbell.net
Subject: FTE Small - The Modern Miracle of Plastic

Tim Turner replied to Eric's post ------------
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Off road

Eric Davis wrote:
>
> Went off-road this weekend and busted off my plastic air dam, left fog
> light, and a plastic thing that covers the bottom of the radiator. Total
> cost to fix all this is coming to around $140. Just telling ever one out
> there that has a 98 or above to watch out when you go off road.


Hate it for Ya, but that's the way it is now.. A quick trip off-road can
be expensive. I'll stick to my old B-II that I can dent up and not
worry too much... I'm not trying to make light
of your damage, just making people aware that going OFF the road can be
expensive or vehicle damaging and be aware of the possibility before it
happens.

Me -----------------------------------------------------------------
(Another response to a poster who recently wrote, "...tell us how you
feel, Richard")
With all the bucks that we paid to Ford for our vehicles (and in light
of the Company's profitability), I don't feel that it is unreasonable
for us to expect a reasonable amount of metal in our vehicles. Also,
worthwhile bumpers, drain plugs on torque converters, differentials,
etc. And adequate access so that it doesn't cost a fortune to maintain
and repair them.
I don't believe that planned obsolescence is a reality, but these
vehicles sure give you a sharp kick in the n**s when they tear up due to
the manufacturer's brazen stinginess.

Richard
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:47:03 -0500
From: "Eric Davis"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re: Off road

Randy:

The truck is great. Especially with my new sound system. I will get the
parts from my Ford dealership Friday and will put them back on this weekend.

Eric Davis
98 4x4 Ranger,
Edlebrock muffler, K&N.
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From: Randy Collins
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 11:02 PM
Subject: FTE Small - Re: Off road


>eric:
>
>aside from the busted parts, how'd the truck do? i've had my 98 on some
>relatively minor climbs and river slu runs, but that's about it. the vacuum
>pulse hubs seem to work fine.
>
>


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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:50:58 -0500
From: "Eric Davis"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging

We had this same problem in our 94 Aerostar, but it had the OHV not the
SOHC, but they never fixed it and it lost power because of it. If I were you
I would make Ford fix it or replace my engine. I would not let this go on
for a long time.

Eric Davis
98 4x4 Ranger,
Edlebrock muffler, K&N.
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From: millered pb.com
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 7:58 AM
Subject: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging


>
>
>I have a 98 Explorer with 4.0L SOHC and 7000 miles. When I accelerate
>moderately I get severe pinging. The manual says use 87 octane - I've
tried
>some different brands but always have the problem. It gets a little
better
>when I use 89 octane. I brought it to the dealer and they said all the
>computer codes came up neg. (Of course they did not test drive it because
then
>they might have accidently identified a problem). My question - Is this
>pinging normal for these engines (Just Fords way of making sure they don't
last
>too long) or is there something I can have done to fix it?
>
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:53:17 -0500
From: "Eric Davis"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Off road

I don't think I covered on any cost that is under $500. But I will check.

Eric Davis
98 4x4 Ranger,
Edlebrock muffler, K&N.
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From: Dave Armbruster
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Off road


>Besides the obvious damage potential, you aren't covered under insurance
for
>stuff that happens offroad (at least with State Farm). I have come across
a
>few people who didn't realize that. In truth, you are lucky to only have
>broken peripheral stuff, could have easily been a twisted driveshaft or
>something serious that would require trailside repairs (you *do* carry
tools
>and an assortment of parts and pieces, right?).



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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:27:59 -0700
From: "Bob Marrs"
Subject: FTE Small - Help: Looking for Stock 4.0L MAF meter & Airbox

Hi Folks,

I am looking for someone who has a surplus stock set up from a 4.0L Ranger
or Explorer consisting of airbox (aircleaner), MAF Meter, and air hoses. I
am going to use this for testing a MAF conversion on a 2.9L I am working on.
If this is not available, a similar 5.0L set-up could also work. Any help
here would be greatly appreciated !!

Best Regards,
Bob Marrs

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:56:14 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - The Modern Miracle of Plastic

rgstein pacbell.net wrote:
>

> Me -----------------------------------------------------------------
> (Another response to a poster who recently wrote, "...tell us how you
> feel, Richard")
> With all the bucks that we paid to Ford for our vehicles (and in light
> of the Company's profitability),

It's not just Ford.. it's pretty universal :-(

> I don't feel that it is unreasonable
> for us to expect a reasonable amount of metal in our vehicles.

Metal = weight = reduced MPG. CAFE requirements being what they are the
OEMs reduce weight wherever possible (cheaply of course). Metal also
isn't very forgiving at least plastic will deform and spring back in
small impacts. Glue works wonders sometimes too. :-)

> And adequate access so that it doesn't cost a fortune to maintain
> and repair them.

But then I wouldn't make as much money! (Not that I'm really
adequately compensated for the daily contortions and problem solving
anyway.. the people putting 'em together make a lot more than the people
taking 'em apart!)


> I don't believe that planned obsolescence is a reality,

Not 'P O' but 'design target' :-) As an example most front end parts
are designed for 150,000 miles.

> vehicles sure give you a sharp kick in the n**s when they tear up due to
> the manufacturer's brazen stinginess.

Or poor design. I'm astounded by parts prices sometimes as well.

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Custer Auto Repair
Wilmington NC
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:05:37 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - RE: Small - Stereo

Mike McNany wrote:
>
> SNIP

> STOP letting your spouse/kids drive it. :>)
>
> Sorry I couldn't resist, cause of my experiences. No probs with the battery?
>

Good point.. over the last 15 years I've fixed at least 3 dash light
problems by simply twisting the knob properly after kids(?) played in
the car. (Not to mention one speedometer that was switched to 'metric';
dunno why the owner didnt notice km/h where MPH used to be!) At least
the owners were pleased with the no charge repairs :-) I dont know how
the KIDS fared when they got home though!

TT

TT
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:28:58 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: FTE Small - Re: EGR etc was Ranger Mileage

Dave Slotter wrote:
>
> My wife's '86 BII used to get about 16 mpg highway. After resetting
> the base timing, we now get mpg highway.

'85 B-II 5 speed, used to get 17-18 City and 26-29 highway before the
carb went pfft. Now 10-11 city and unknown highway. I'll do the carb
when I replace the engine.

>
> With KOEO we get 1's - GOOD
> With KOER we get several codes which tells us our knock sensor didn't
> register any knocking - which is funny as I don't think the 2.9 V6
> has a knock sensor. We also get a code which says the EGR valve isn't
> registering movement and another code which says the O2 sensor
> detects we're running rich.


I'd replace the EGR AND it's sensor, go ahead and replace the O2 if it's
been in there more than 50,000 miles and recheck after a few days to
verify all is well. :-)

> I believe that if the EGR valve is
> replaced, it may fix a whole slew of problems:
>
> 1. Easier startup in the morning
> 2. Better gas mileage
> 3. Lower emissions - pass emission inspection without waiver sticker
> 4. Remove trouble codes.
>

Probably right on all counts (will take some 60 cycles of the key to
clear the codes in the 'CONT' section, but the KOER should be OK). Let
us know if it doesn't and we'll help!

TT
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:52:05 EST
From: Ding060297 AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging

Your truck doesn't ping Plain and simple bring it back take the lil service
advisor by the neck take him for a test drive and make him say I HEAR IT !!!!
and make them fix it or raise hell..............ding.
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:16:25 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging

millered pb.com wrote:
>
> I have a 98 Explorer with 4.0L SOHC and 7000 miles. When I accelerate
> moderately I get severe pinging.

Neil: pinging is also known as 'spark knock', detonation, pre-ignition
et al. (The little man with a hammer inside the engine when you
accelerate.)

> The manual says use 87 octane - I've tried
> some different brands but always have the problem. It gets a little better
> when I use 89 octane. I brought it to the dealer and they said all the
> computer codes came up neg.


Arrgh.. I hate sloppy diagnostics.. probably 1/3 (or more!) of the
drivability problems I tackle dont have any codes stored but I manage to
fix almost all of them. Codes only identify gross faults (esp. pre-96);
a 'skewed' sensor will NOT set a code. Case in point: '92 S-10 I
worked on yesterday and the coolant sensor was locked at 21 Degrees
below Zero; since it wasn't a constant 40 below the computer figured the
poor guy lived in Siberia and adjusted the fuel output accordingly.

> (Of course they did not test drive it because then
> they might have accidently identified a problem). My question - Is this
> pinging normal for these engines

No! At most you should hear 1-3 pings if that.

> (Just Fords way of making sure they don't last
> too long)

Not long at all from what you describe.. let 'em replace the engine
under warranty next year since they said there was no problem!

> or is there something I can have done to fix it?

Is there another Ford dealer in your area? (Mercury would be OK too,
same procedures.) I dont know for sure on the 98's, but earlier models
had provisions for retarding the timing called an 'octane bar' or
'octane plug', but the area I would check first would be the EGR system
for proper operation. (The modular V-8 is well known for the EGR
passage getting plugged with coke for instance.) A malfunctioning knock
sensor (if equipped) could be suspect also. But without a technician
willing to do some 'real' diagnostics it'll be a while before you know
what's wrong. You might want to call some independant shops in your
area and tell them exactly what you've got and find one willing to dig
it out; obviously some $$ will change hands rather than being warrantied
though. :-(

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Custer Auto Repair
Wilmington NC

PS: Anywhere near me? :-) I'd be more than happy to look at it.

TT
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:22:42 PST
From: "Joe Mitchell"
Subject: FTE Small - Lowering?

Anyone here have a lowered truck? I was gonna get some info on what
exactly it takes to do this. I know that with a lift kit, it is
recomended to get a body and suspension lift, but is there any such
thing involved in lowering a truck? I'm not interested in scraping
asphault, I'd just like the rear and front to sit the same height, so
I'm only talking about lowering the rear 1 or 2 inches...any info
appreciated...
- --
Joe
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I'd push a Ford before I drove a Chevy, but I don't need to.
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:37:26 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Small - AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket

Anthony Rifici wrote:
>
> I had posted late last year when my AC compressor decided to seize and
> take a hole out of my wallet.

It will do that wont it? :-(

> What else had to be replaced along with the compressor?

The drier/accumulator and the orifice tube (or hose containing same),
ideally flushing the condensor and evaporator.

> I am specifically interested in those of you who have had this
> done on an R134a system as I have a 94 Ranger 4.0L w/ R134a.

Point your browser to http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.aircondition.com/wwwboard/index.htm and
you'll find a great group of people helping DIYers and others with A/C
questions.

>
> Also, My intake manifold seems to be leaking at the back, so I want to
> take care of that myself while I don't have to worry about refrigerant
> lines. It doesn't seem to be to difficult of a job (famous last words).
> Has anybody had to do this or have any suggestions before I tear into it?
>
> TT, this seems to be right up your alley, any insight?

Other than the tools required to release spring lock fittings it's
pretty straight forward with small and agile fingers. ;-) Of course
since you'll need the spring lock tools you might as well do all the A/C
work yourself since it's the same fittings.. I'm not sure of the
years/models involved, but some of the 4.0's have a 'revised' A/C hose
that now snakes over the FRONT of the engine rather than the back side
that seems less prone to leak.

Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic
Custer Auto Repair
Wilmington NC
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:14:09 -0800
From: "Wayne"
Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging....


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