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small-list-digest Friday, February 19 1999 Volume 03 : Number 045 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Ranger, Explorer, Bronco 2 and Aerostar Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo  ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe small-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE Small - Explorer Thumping Noise FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging Re: FTE Small - AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket FTE Small - Ranger Mileage FTE Small - Re: Ranger question FTE Small - Aerostar sounds and bumpers Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging FTE Small - RE: AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket FTE Small - RE: Small - Stereo Re: FTE Small - Off road Re: FTE Small - RE: AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket Re: FTE Small - RE: AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket Re: FTE Small - Ranger question FTE Small - Re: FTE 97up - Ranger Mileage Re: FTE Small - Ranger Mileage Re: FTE Small - Ranger Mileage Re: FTE Small - Ranger question Re: FTE Small - Ranger question FTE Small - K&N Oil Filters FTE Small - Stereo won't maintain presets FTE Small - The Modern Miracle of Plastic Re: FTE Small - Re: Off road Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging Re: FTE Small - Off road FTE Small - Help: Looking for Stock 4.0L MAF meter & Airbox Re: FTE Small - The Modern Miracle of Plastic Re: FTE Small - RE: Small - Stereo FTE Small - Re: EGR etc was Ranger Mileage Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging FTE Small - Lowering? Re: FTE Small - AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:14:31 -0600 From: "Strukel, Mike" Subject: FTE Small - Explorer Thumping Noise Last November, I purchased a 98 Explorer 2 dr. 4x4(new). It has been a great vehicle, except for one problem. When I hit any bumps in the road with the rear tires, it makes a terrible thumping/pounding noise. The best way to describe it would be someone banging on a base drum in the back! At slower speeds, you can hear the thump being associated with each individual bump, but when you go down the freeway at higher speeds, it turns into more of a rumble (due to the frequency of the bumps). This is driving me nuts! Has anyone else had this type of problem? I spent some time under the truck and I can not find anything loose. Mike 98 Explorer 99 F250 SD (ordered) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:56:30 -0500 From: millered pb.com Subject: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging I have a 98 Explorer with 4.0L SOHC and 7000 miles. When I accelerate moderately I get severe pinging. The manual says use 87 octane - I've tried some different brands but always have the problem. It gets a little better when I use 89 octane. I brought it to the dealer and they said all the computer codes came up neg. (Of course they did not test drive it because then they might have accidently identified a problem). My question - Is this pinging normal for these engines (Just Fords way of making sure they don't last too long) or is there something I can have done to fix it? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 05:07:57 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Ciocco Subject: Re: FTE Small - AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket I have an '87 BII. I had the system converted to 134a last time i installed a condenser. It quieted the compressor and giives great cooling. I have heard varying reports from users of other makes, but it seems to do well for the BII. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:14:39 -0600 From: "NinjaRider" Subject: FTE Small - Ranger Mileage Hello All, I have a '97 Ranger XLT with the 3.0 liter and 5 speed. The truck has just over 8000 kms (I am up here in Canada). At the last fill up I calculated my gas mileage as 14.5 mpg. This seems a bit low to me or is it because the engine is still breaking in? Should it be getting a higher mileage? Thanks, Peter ninjarider home.com 1986 Kawasaki Zx1000R Ninja 1997 Ford Ranger XLT "Always try to keep the rubber side down!" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:29:51 -0500 (EST) From: fss altavista.net Subject: FTE Small - Re: Ranger question - -----Original Message----- From:bcmayer nucleus.com Sent:Thursday, February 18, 1999 1:12 AM To:small-list ford-trucks.com; Rick Sapir Subject:FTE Small - Ranger question I just purchased a 1990 Ford Ranger with the 4sp auto and 2.9L motor. The truck is like new with only 71000 km. My question is what kind of gas milege are other Ranger owners getting. The mileage I seem to be getting for city travel is only 17mpg. Is this normal, I was expecting at least in the 20's. - --------------------------- I have a '98 SuperCab, 2.5L 5-speed with 10K. I have been getting ~20MPG in the city and almost 23MPG on the highway. +-----------------------------------------------+ Rick Sapir fss altavista.net Raleigh, NC USA ricks99 netzero.net http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/4654 +-----------------------------------------------+ - ---------------------------------------------------------------- == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:04:56 -0500 (EST) From: Victor L Moran Subject: FTE Small - Aerostar sounds and bumpers Wayne, Thanks for the advice on the bumper and the tranny. As it turns out I finally tracked down the sound using www.nhsta.com/. It turns out that there is a TSB out about the ticking. It's caused by an improperly bonded drive shaft and yolk. I had a friend of mine change the drive shaft for me a few months ago and we still had the problem. Turns out that the car he took the shaft off of was an exact match for mine (year, make, model) and so had the same problem. I'm looking into the possibilty of using a later model shaft in this van. I'm going to go have the tranny checked out, I checked the fluid and it does not look a healthy red, it looks burnt. What can cause that? If anyone has any ideas about ranger bumpers on aerostars, please let me know. My girlfriend is going to be driving my van alot and I can't afford the screw-ups she makes when parking! Victor. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:10:00 -0000 From: "Neil Brownlee" Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging Hi, just a small question .... what in 'pinging', I have an Explorer and was just wondering...I am from the UK BTW. Neil - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: 18 February 1999 12:56 Subject: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging > > >I have a 98 Explorer with 4.0L SOHC and 7000 miles. When I accelerate >moderately I get severe pinging. The manual says use 87 octane - I've tried >some different brands but always have the problem. It gets a little better >when I use 89 octane. I brought it to the dealer and they said all the >computer codes came up neg. (Of course they did not test drive it because then >they might have accidently identified a problem). My question - Is this >pinging normal for these engines (Just Fords way of making sure they don't last >too long) or is there something I can have done to fix it? > > > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:22:52 -0600 From: John Bartin Subject: FTE Small - RE: AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket I had the compressor seize in my '95 Explorer a couple of months ago. The dealer replaced the compressor, evaporator, orifice tube, and serpentine belt. I don't know what it cost because it was under extended warranty, but I 'll bet it paid for the warranty! John 95 Explorer XLT 4.0 4X4 95 Ranger SC 4.0 4X4 You wrote: Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 02:26:59 -0500 From: "Anthony Rifici" Subject: FTE Small - AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket I had posted late last year when my AC compressor decided to seize and take a hole out of my wallet. I now have the time to get it fixed, so the questions for the group are: Has anybody had a seized compressor replaced and how much did it cost? What else had to be replaced along with the compressor? I am specifically interested in those of you who have had this done on an R134a system as I have a 94 Ranger 4.0L w/ R134a. etc.................................. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:26:25 -0500 From: "Mike McNany" Subject: FTE Small - RE: Small - Stereo SNIP Every time I leave my truck sitting for a couple of days,I lose the presets on the stereo. Any ideas? TIA> STOP letting your spouse/kids drive it. :>) Sorry I couldn't resist, cause of my experiences. No probs with the battery? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:40:12 -0700 From: Dave Armbruster Subject: Re: FTE Small - Off road Besides the obvious damage potential, you aren't covered under insurance for stuff that happens offroad (at least with State Farm). I have come across a few people who didn't realize that. In truth, you are lucky to only have broken peripheral stuff, could have easily been a twisted driveshaft or something serious that would require trailside repairs (you *do* carry tools and an assortment of parts and pieces, right?). > -----Original Message----- > From:owner-small-list-digest ford-trucks.com > [SMTP:owner-small-list-digest ford-trucks.com] > Sent:Thursday, February 18, 1999 3:31 AM > To:small-list-digest ford-trucks.com > Subject:small-list-digest V3 #44 > > > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:05:44 -0500 > From: Tim Turner > Subject: Re: FTE Small - Off road > > Eric Davis wrote: > > > > Went off-road this weekend and busted off my plastic air dam, left fog > > light, and a plastic thing that covers the bottom of the radiator. Total > > cost to fix all this is coming to around $140. Just telling ever one out > > there that has a 98 or above to watch out when you go off road. > > > Hate it for Ya, but that's the way it is now.. A quick trip off-road can > be expensive. I'll stick to my old B-II that I can dent up and not > worry too much. $140 was pretty cheap too.. I've seen $500 for the > minor damage you describe on some makes. I'm not trying to make light > of your damage, just making people aware that going OFF the road can be > expensive or vehicle damaging and be aware of the possibility before it > happens. > > TT > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:55:07 -0700 (MST) From: "Mark E. Monninger" Subject: Re: FTE Small - RE: AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket I had the A/C fixed on my 93 Ranger last summer...replaced everything but the evaperator & condensor...about $1200 total. Here in Phoenix it's well worth it in July! I stayed with R-12...the service rep said it would be $200-300 more to convert to R-134 and it would probably not work as well. This was at a Ford dealer. You could probably get it done cheaper elsewhere or if you do some of the work yourself but I didn't have the time or inclination to mess with it at the time. Mark On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, John Bartin wrote: > I had the compressor seize in my '95 Explorer a couple of months ago. The > dealer replaced the compressor, evaporator, orifice tube, and serpentine > belt. I don't know what it cost because it was under extended warranty, > but I 'll bet it paid for the warranty! > > John > 95 Explorer XLT 4.0 4X4 > 95 Ranger SC 4.0 4X4 > > You wrote: > > Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 02:26:59 -0500 > From: "Anthony Rifici" > Subject: FTE Small - AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket > > I had posted late last year when my AC compressor decided to seize and > take a hole out of my wallet. I now have the time to get it fixed, so the > questions for the group are: Has anybody had a seized compressor replaced > and how much did it cost? What else had to be replaced along with the > compressor? I am specifically interested in those of you who have had this > done on an R134a system as I have a 94 Ranger 4.0L w/ R134a. > etc.................................. > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:18:46 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Ciocco Subject: Re: FTE Small - RE: AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket I left off the cost on my previous post regarding the 134a conversion. It cost approximately $100 additional to convert. I feel like this is well worth it, as now I am able to do repairs on my a/c without having to take it in and get overcharged for the refill. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:12:29 -0800 From: Adam McLaughlin Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ranger question I am not surprised. My 1988 Bronco 2 has the 2.9 on a clutch, and when in 2 wheel high I get approximately 17.6 MPG city. I have 156,000 miles. I also burn the premium stuff, etc. Adam At 11:01 PM 2/17/99 -0700, you wrote: >I just purchased a 1990 Ford Ranger with the 4sp auto and 2.9L motor. The >truck is like new with only 71000 km. My question is what kind of gas >milege are other Ranger owners getting. The mileage I seem to be getting >for city travel is only 17mpg. Is this normal, I was expecting at least in >the 20's. > > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > Adam McLaughlin KD6POC KD6POC JPS.net http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.jps.net/jmclaugh/adam2.htm ICQ #6147499 No-SSB International #1,000,178 NO-QRP International #1,000,006 AIM "Screen Name" is: kd6poc "We are the dreamers, and we are the music makers" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:48:53 -0800 From: "Alan Wilson" Subject: FTE Small - Re: FTE 97up - Ranger Mileage I have a '98 3.0 liter Supercab Ranger. Initially I got about 15.5 mpg...recently I checked it and I got about 16.2 mpg I have 12,000 miles on it. alannorthstar mindspring.com wrote: > On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:14:39 -0600, you wrote: > > :Hello All, > : > :I have a '97 Ranger XLT with the 3.0 liter and 5 speed. The truck has just > :over 8000 kms (I am up here in Canada). At the last fill up I calculated my > :gas mileage as 14.5 mpg. This seems a bit low to me or is it because the > :engine is still breaking in? Should it be getting a higher mileage? > : > :Thanks, > :Peter > : > I have a 98 Ranger with the 3.0 and the 4-speed overdrive > automatic. (4x4) and 14.5 is at the high end of what I've ever > gotten! In the summer it is about 14, and in the winter it's > averaging around 10mpg. > > Later, > Alan > =FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html - -- Alan Wilson - Wilshire Associates, (310) 451-3051 x3750 (310) 260-7350 Direct (310) 458-2842 FAX == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:37:28 -0500 From: Dave Slotter Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ranger Mileage My wife's '86 BII used to get about 16 mpg highway. After resetting the base timing, we now get mpg highway. I think we may get even better gas mileage after we replace a faulty EGR valve. With KOEO we get 1's - GOOD With KOER we get several codes which tells us our knock sensor didn't register any knocking - which is funny as I don't think the 2.9 V6 has a knock sensor. We also get a code which says the EGR valve isn't registering movement and another code which says the O2 sensor detects we're running rich. I believe that if the EGR valve is replaced, it may fix a whole slew of problems: 1. Easier startup in the morning 2. Better gas mileage 3. Lower emissions - pass emission inspection without waiver sticker 4. Remove trouble codes. - -Dave - -- mailto:dave slotter.org ICQ# 16458879 AOL/AIM ID: "Mac XR" 1986 Ford Bronco II Gray Manual 2.9 V6 119K == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:50:29 -0500 From: Dave Slotter Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ranger Mileage > My wife's '86 BII used to get about 16 mpg highway. After resetting > the base timing, we now get mpg highway. I think we may get even > better gas mileage after we replace a faulty EGR valve. I don't know what happened to my earlier message, but we get 25 mpg highway now. - -Dave - -- mailto:dave slotter.org ICQ# 16458879 AOL/AIM ID: "Mac XR" 1986 Ford Bronco II Gray Manual 2.9 V6 119K == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:52:38 PST From: "jarrod neslund" Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ranger question >From owner-small-list ford-trucks.com Wed Feb 17 22:07:55 1999 >Received: (fordtruc localhost) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id BAA26719; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:02:08 -0500 (EST) >Received: from vop.nucleus.com (vop.nucleus.com [207.34.93.23]) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id BAA26713; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:02:07 -0500 (EST) >Received: from brianmay (unverified [207.34.94.64]) by vop.nucleus.com > (Vircom SMTPRS 1.0.176) with SMTP id for ; > Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:02:12 -0700 >Message-ID: >From: "The Mayer's" >To: "Ford trucks" >Subject: FTE Small - Ranger question >Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:01:34 -0700 >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 >Sender: owner-small-list ford-trucks.com >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: small-list ford-trucks.com > >I just purchased a 1990 Ford Ranger with the 4sp auto and 2.9L motor. The >truck is like new with only 71000 km. My question is what kind of gas >milege are other Ranger owners getting. The mileage I seem to be getting >for city travel is only 17mpg. Is this normal, I was expecting at least in >the 20's. > > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html >I also own a 1990 Ranger. Mine's a 2.3 liter 4 cylinder model with four wheel drive (which I hardly ever use) and I barely get over 20mpg. A friend of mine owns a '93 Ranger with a five speed and 3.0 and he only gets around 18-20mpg. ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:10:06 -0600 (CST) From: Sandman Subject: Re: FTE Small - Ranger question On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, jarrod neslund wrote: > > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info > http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > >I also own a 1990 Ranger. Mine's a 2.3 liter 4 cylinder model with > four wheel drive (which I hardly ever use) and I barely get over 20mpg. > A friend of mine owns a '93 Ranger with a five speed and 3.0 and he only > gets around 18-20mpg. > > > ______________________________________________________ My 89 2.3L Supercab Ranger gets about 25MPG on the highway. I once got 27MPG on the highway on a 400 mile round trip. In the city I get around 20-22. My Truck has 163K miles on it and still runs great and gets great mileage. Seems most people here are getting less miles than me though. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ghg.net/sandmanx/ranger High Mileage Ranger Web Site sandmanx ghg.net == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:35:10 -0500 From: J Cope Subject: FTE Small - K&N Oil Filters Does anyone know where in eastern Mass I can get a K&N oil filter? I've been looking pretty hard to no avail... BTW, I drive an 88 BII. Thanks! JC == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:53:39 -0800 From: rgstein pacbell.net Subject: FTE Small - Stereo won't maintain presets "J.S.H." wrote ------------------------------- Subject: FTE Small - Stereo Every time I leave my truck sitting for a couple of days,I lose the presets on the stereo. Any ideas? TIA My reply ------------------------------------------------------------ This is a good one! Off the top of my head: 1. Bad capacitor inside unit. 2. Bad integrated circuit. 3. Insufficient battery voltage to keep circuit above its required threshold. This last one came to mind as follows: My mechanic decided to do me a favor and install acid-neutralizing rings on my battery terminals. Water, moisture, etc. then mixed with the substance and some of it leaked into the battery (remember, the new batteries' filler holes are flush with the battery tops, a masterpiece of bird-brain design). This caused the cell adjacent to the terminal to go dead. Thus, instead of 12.6 battery volts, I had 10.5, with lots of "oomph." Started every time. So, if your headlights dim lots when you idle, this may be it. Richard == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:04:54 -0800 From: rgstein pacbell.net Subject: FTE Small - The Modern Miracle of Plastic Tim Turner replied to Eric's post ------------ Subject: Re: FTE Small - Off road Eric Davis wrote: > > Went off-road this weekend and busted off my plastic air dam, left fog > light, and a plastic thing that covers the bottom of the radiator. Total > cost to fix all this is coming to around $140. Just telling ever one out > there that has a 98 or above to watch out when you go off road. Hate it for Ya, but that's the way it is now.. A quick trip off-road can be expensive. I'll stick to my old B-II that I can dent up and not worry too much... I'm not trying to make light of your damage, just making people aware that going OFF the road can be expensive or vehicle damaging and be aware of the possibility before it happens. Me ----------------------------------------------------------------- (Another response to a poster who recently wrote, "...tell us how you feel, Richard") With all the bucks that we paid to Ford for our vehicles (and in light of the Company's profitability), I don't feel that it is unreasonable for us to expect a reasonable amount of metal in our vehicles. Also, worthwhile bumpers, drain plugs on torque converters, differentials, etc. And adequate access so that it doesn't cost a fortune to maintain and repair them. I don't believe that planned obsolescence is a reality, but these vehicles sure give you a sharp kick in the n**s when they tear up due to the manufacturer's brazen stinginess. Richard == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:47:03 -0500 From: "Eric Davis" Subject: Re: FTE Small - Re: Off road Randy: The truck is great. Especially with my new sound system. I will get the parts from my Ford dealership Friday and will put them back on this weekend. Eric Davis 98 4x4 Ranger, Edlebrock muffler, K&N. - -----Original Message----- From: Randy Collins To: small-list ford-trucks.com Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 11:02 PM Subject: FTE Small - Re: Off road >eric: > >aside from the busted parts, how'd the truck do? i've had my 98 on some >relatively minor climbs and river slu runs, but that's about it. the vacuum >pulse hubs seem to work fine. > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:50:58 -0500 From: "Eric Davis" Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging We had this same problem in our 94 Aerostar, but it had the OHV not the SOHC, but they never fixed it and it lost power because of it. If I were you I would make Ford fix it or replace my engine. I would not let this go on for a long time. Eric Davis 98 4x4 Ranger, Edlebrock muffler, K&N. - -----Original Message----- From: millered pb.com To: small-list ford-trucks.com Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 7:58 AM Subject: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging > > >I have a 98 Explorer with 4.0L SOHC and 7000 miles. When I accelerate >moderately I get severe pinging. The manual says use 87 octane - I've tried >some different brands but always have the problem. It gets a little better >when I use 89 octane. I brought it to the dealer and they said all the >computer codes came up neg. (Of course they did not test drive it because then >they might have accidently identified a problem). My question - Is this >pinging normal for these engines (Just Fords way of making sure they don't last >too long) or is there something I can have done to fix it? > > > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:53:17 -0500 From: "Eric Davis" Subject: Re: FTE Small - Off road I don't think I covered on any cost that is under $500. But I will check. Eric Davis 98 4x4 Ranger, Edlebrock muffler, K&N. - -----Original Message----- From: Dave Armbruster To: small-list ford-trucks.com Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 9:41 AM Subject: Re: FTE Small - Off road >Besides the obvious damage potential, you aren't covered under insurance for >stuff that happens offroad (at least with State Farm). I have come across a >few people who didn't realize that. In truth, you are lucky to only have >broken peripheral stuff, could have easily been a twisted driveshaft or >something serious that would require trailside repairs (you *do* carry tools >and an assortment of parts and pieces, right?). == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:27:59 -0700 From: "Bob Marrs" Subject: FTE Small - Help: Looking for Stock 4.0L MAF meter & Airbox Hi Folks, I am looking for someone who has a surplus stock set up from a 4.0L Ranger or Explorer consisting of airbox (aircleaner), MAF Meter, and air hoses. I am going to use this for testing a MAF conversion on a 2.9L I am working on. If this is not available, a similar 5.0L set-up could also work. Any help here would be greatly appreciated !! Best Regards, Bob Marrs == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:56:14 -0500 From: Tim Turner Subject: Re: FTE Small - The Modern Miracle of Plastic rgstein pacbell.net wrote: > > Me ----------------------------------------------------------------- > (Another response to a poster who recently wrote, "...tell us how you > feel, Richard") > With all the bucks that we paid to Ford for our vehicles (and in light > of the Company's profitability), It's not just Ford.. it's pretty universal :-( > I don't feel that it is unreasonable > for us to expect a reasonable amount of metal in our vehicles. Metal = weight = reduced MPG. CAFE requirements being what they are the OEMs reduce weight wherever possible (cheaply of course). Metal also isn't very forgiving at least plastic will deform and spring back in small impacts. Glue works wonders sometimes too. :-) > And adequate access so that it doesn't cost a fortune to maintain > and repair them. But then I wouldn't make as much money! (Not that I'm really adequately compensated for the daily contortions and problem solving anyway.. the people putting 'em together make a lot more than the people taking 'em apart!) > I don't believe that planned obsolescence is a reality, Not 'P O' but 'design target' :-) As an example most front end parts are designed for 150,000 miles. > vehicles sure give you a sharp kick in the n**s when they tear up due to > the manufacturer's brazen stinginess. Or poor design. I'm astounded by parts prices sometimes as well. Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic Custer Auto Repair Wilmington NC == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:05:37 -0500 From: Tim Turner Subject: Re: FTE Small - RE: Small - Stereo Mike McNany wrote: > > SNIP > STOP letting your spouse/kids drive it. :>) > > Sorry I couldn't resist, cause of my experiences. No probs with the battery? > Good point.. over the last 15 years I've fixed at least 3 dash light problems by simply twisting the knob properly after kids(?) played in the car. (Not to mention one speedometer that was switched to 'metric'; dunno why the owner didnt notice km/h where MPH used to be!) At least the owners were pleased with the no charge repairs :-) I dont know how the KIDS fared when they got home though! TT TT == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:28:58 -0500 From: Tim Turner Subject: FTE Small - Re: EGR etc was Ranger Mileage Dave Slotter wrote: > > My wife's '86 BII used to get about 16 mpg highway. After resetting > the base timing, we now get mpg highway. '85 B-II 5 speed, used to get 17-18 City and 26-29 highway before the carb went pfft. Now 10-11 city and unknown highway. I'll do the carb when I replace the engine. > > With KOEO we get 1's - GOOD > With KOER we get several codes which tells us our knock sensor didn't > register any knocking - which is funny as I don't think the 2.9 V6 > has a knock sensor. We also get a code which says the EGR valve isn't > registering movement and another code which says the O2 sensor > detects we're running rich. I'd replace the EGR AND it's sensor, go ahead and replace the O2 if it's been in there more than 50,000 miles and recheck after a few days to verify all is well. :-) > I believe that if the EGR valve is > replaced, it may fix a whole slew of problems: > > 1. Easier startup in the morning > 2. Better gas mileage > 3. Lower emissions - pass emission inspection without waiver sticker > 4. Remove trouble codes. > Probably right on all counts (will take some 60 cycles of the key to clear the codes in the 'CONT' section, but the KOER should be OK). Let us know if it doesn't and we'll help! TT == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:52:05 EST From: Ding060297 AOL.COM Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging Your truck doesn't ping Plain and simple bring it back take the lil service advisor by the neck take him for a test drive and make him say I HEAR IT !!!! and make them fix it or raise hell..............ding. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:16:25 -0500 From: Tim Turner Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging millered pb.com wrote: > > I have a 98 Explorer with 4.0L SOHC and 7000 miles. When I accelerate > moderately I get severe pinging. Neil: pinging is also known as 'spark knock', detonation, pre-ignition et al. (The little man with a hammer inside the engine when you accelerate.) > The manual says use 87 octane - I've tried > some different brands but always have the problem. It gets a little better > when I use 89 octane. I brought it to the dealer and they said all the > computer codes came up neg. Arrgh.. I hate sloppy diagnostics.. probably 1/3 (or more!) of the drivability problems I tackle dont have any codes stored but I manage to fix almost all of them. Codes only identify gross faults (esp. pre-96); a 'skewed' sensor will NOT set a code. Case in point: '92 S-10 I worked on yesterday and the coolant sensor was locked at 21 Degrees below Zero; since it wasn't a constant 40 below the computer figured the poor guy lived in Siberia and adjusted the fuel output accordingly. > (Of course they did not test drive it because then > they might have accidently identified a problem). My question - Is this > pinging normal for these engines No! At most you should hear 1-3 pings if that. > (Just Fords way of making sure they don't last > too long) Not long at all from what you describe.. let 'em replace the engine under warranty next year since they said there was no problem! > or is there something I can have done to fix it? Is there another Ford dealer in your area? (Mercury would be OK too, same procedures.) I dont know for sure on the 98's, but earlier models had provisions for retarding the timing called an 'octane bar' or 'octane plug', but the area I would check first would be the EGR system for proper operation. (The modular V-8 is well known for the EGR passage getting plugged with coke for instance.) A malfunctioning knock sensor (if equipped) could be suspect also. But without a technician willing to do some 'real' diagnostics it'll be a while before you know what's wrong. You might want to call some independant shops in your area and tell them exactly what you've got and find one willing to dig it out; obviously some $$ will change hands rather than being warrantied though. :-( Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic Custer Auto Repair Wilmington NC PS: Anywhere near me? :-) I'd be more than happy to look at it. TT == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:22:42 PST From: "Joe Mitchell" Subject: FTE Small - Lowering? Anyone here have a lowered truck? I was gonna get some info on what exactly it takes to do this. I know that with a lift kit, it is recomended to get a body and suspension lift, but is there any such thing involved in lowering a truck? I'm not interested in scraping asphault, I'd just like the rear and front to sit the same height, so I'm only talking about lowering the rear 1 or 2 inches...any info appreciated... - -- Joe - -- I'd push a Ford before I drove a Chevy, but I don't need to. - -- http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.angelfire.com/tx/tru2datank/index.html ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:37:26 -0500 From: Tim Turner Subject: Re: FTE Small - AC Cost and Intake Manifold Gasket Anthony Rifici wrote: > > I had posted late last year when my AC compressor decided to seize and > take a hole out of my wallet. It will do that wont it? :-( > What else had to be replaced along with the compressor? The drier/accumulator and the orifice tube (or hose containing same), ideally flushing the condensor and evaporator. > I am specifically interested in those of you who have had this > done on an R134a system as I have a 94 Ranger 4.0L w/ R134a. Point your browser to http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.aircondition.com/wwwboard/index.htm and you'll find a great group of people helping DIYers and others with A/C questions. > > Also, My intake manifold seems to be leaking at the back, so I want to > take care of that myself while I don't have to worry about refrigerant > lines. It doesn't seem to be to difficult of a job (famous last words). > Has anybody had to do this or have any suggestions before I tear into it? > > TT, this seems to be right up your alley, any insight? Other than the tools required to release spring lock fittings it's pretty straight forward with small and agile fingers. ;-) Of course since you'll need the spring lock tools you might as well do all the A/C work yourself since it's the same fittings.. I'm not sure of the years/models involved, but some of the 4.0's have a 'revised' A/C hose that now snakes over the FRONT of the engine rather than the back side that seems less prone to leak. Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic Custer Auto Repair Wilmington NC == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:14:09 -0800 From: "Wayne" Subject: Re: FTE Small - Explorer - Engine Pinging.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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